Can I get Garageband sounds to come out of my piano speakers?

I have a Yamaha P-105 Digital Piano connected via USB MIDI and everything is working well. But while the Computer is playing (for example) "Pop Flute" the Piano still sounds like a piano, I'm getting two different sounds. So can I get Garageband "Software Souds" to come out of my Piano's built-in speakers?


I know how to turn the Piano speakers off but it would be nice for monitoring purposes to have them sound the same. The P-105 has MIDI-in so I thought it would be able to do this


Thanks for any help


Doug

iMac, Mac OS X (10.7), Yamaha P-105

Posted on Oct 13, 2013 5:34 AM

22 replies

Oct 14, 2013 5:53 AM in response to HangTime

No that's Audio vs MIDI, my question was answered from your first reply, its just that Bullets and Bones make it very confusing. It might be better to answer questions in your own words


I did find the information which answers my question though, so I appreciate your reply


cheers,

Doug

Oct 14, 2013 11:11 AM in response to Community User

doug3684 wrote:


No I am not trying to transmit Audio via MIDI.


maye this can clarify... the problem is that what you're asking to do IS transmit audio via MIDI. you asked to hear _GB's_ sounds through your keyboard, that's audio.


even if GB did have MIDI-OUT, that would mean that GB could play your _keyboard's_ instruments, you still wouldn't hear GB's sounds unless you had the same sounds installed on your keyboard.

Oct 15, 2013 10:00 AM in response to Community User

doug3684 wrote:



I hope that makes sense and once again I'm not having a go at you

cheers,


great because i would hope nothing i say is taken as a personal attack, it's definitely not B–)>


but i'm afraid you have some misconceptions in your understanding of MIDI, and GB in particular.



doug3684 wrote:


Q. "Can Garageband play my keyboard's sounds?"

A. "No Garageband does not offer MIDI-OUT"


There are a number of reasons why the Answer does not "match" the Question

1. The question does not mention "MIDI"


that's intentional, beginners rarely know the correct terms to use, and just want to know how to do something, in this case make GB play they're keyboard's sounds (which it can not do)



doug3684 wrote:


2. For Garageband to play a keyboard's sounds you need "IN" not "OUT"


no, MIDI-IN is what GB does have, you send MIDI IN to GB from OUT of your keyboard



doug3684 wrote:


3. Of course Garageband can play your keyboard's sounds, but not via MIDI


there is no way to play your keyboards sounds from GB without MIDI. MIDI is the only way GB could trigger your synth's sounds, GB would have to send signals via MIDI-OUT, which it can't do natively.



doug3684 wrote:



4. MIDI-OUT would enable Garageband sounds to come out of your keyboard's speakers


no, this is why i pointed you to the explanation of MIDI≠Audio. GB's "sounds" are audio, the synths that GB has makes the sounds after receiving a MIDI signal (from the MIDI-OUT of a keyboard in most cases). The only way to send GB's _sounds_ (audio) to your keyboard would be via the Mac's line-OUT to a line-IN, if it existed, on the keyboard. if GB sent MIDI signals (OUT) to your keyboard, your keyboard would then use itsown synths to generate the sound.


doug3684 wrote:



I don't want my keyboard to play Garageband sounds, I just want Garageband sounds to come out of my keyboard speakers


then the only way would be via an audio connection, either through line-OUT/IN jacks, or an audio interface, assuming your keyboard accepts audio-IN



doug3684 wrote:


Another thing that I realised which is misleading. In Gargeband when you add another instrument you get the choice of "Software Instrument" "Real Instrument" and "Electric Guitar"


"Software Instrument" has a picture of a Grand Piano, which is a Real Instrument not a MIDI instrument.



honestly this has annoyed me since GB's release 10 years ago, Apple's use of the term "Software" instead of "MIDI"


the Grand Piano in GB is not a real (audio) instrument, it is a MIDI Synth. in GB terms, "real" means audio and "software" means MIDI.

Oct 17, 2013 8:28 AM in response to Community User

doug3684 wrote:

something clicked, I finally understand what you mean. MIDI does not carry the Software Sounds, its just MIDI.


bingo!



doug3684 wrote:



I still don't get the Bullets and Bones Q & A though



best i can tell you is: there's a reason the little text under the link does not say "your question is at the top of the page" but rather "the link to you answer is at the top of the page."


it would be silly to try to have every permutation of question available, the information in the answer was what was useful.


anyway, good luck

Oct 19, 2013 7:50 AM in response to Community User

doug3684 wrote:




With the Bullets and Bones Question:


"Can GarageBand play my keyboard's sounds?"

If you think about it, tha'ts a different question to

"Can GarageBand record my keyboard's sounds?"



they are indeed very different questions, the second of which is covered here:


http://www.bulletsandbones.com/GB/GBFAQ.html#recordkeyboardssounds

(Let the page FULLY load. The link to your answer is at the top of your screen)

Oct 13, 2013 8:32 AM in response to HangTime

I'm not sure if I'm getting the right answer

The link leads to "Can Garageband play my Keyboard's sounds?"

But I'm asking "Can my Keyboard play Garageband sounds?"


I want the sound to come from the computer back to my keyboard


(If I want Garageband to record my Keyboard sounds I go through the Apogee interface)


cheers

Doug

Oct 13, 2013 9:10 AM in response to HangTime

I looked again and it says Garageband doesn't do MIDI-OUT, which answers my question...

..but its a bit confusing because the question on that page is the opposite to the answer


anyway, cheers and thanks for the reply


Doug

Oct 14, 2013 10:55 AM in response to HangTime

No I am not trying to transmit Audio via MIDI. That would be like trying to play a vinyl record on a CD player (LOL) I have an Apogee Duet audio interface if I want to record via Audio


http://apogeedigital.com/products/duet2.php


For this one song I am using MIDI because I want to use a "Software Sound" in Garageband and I want the "Software Sound" to come back from the computer and out of my keyboard speakers via the MIDI connection (Not for recording purposes, just for monitoring purposes)


Computer MIDI-OUT to Keyboard MIDI-IN


My question is answered when I read "Garageband does not do MIDI-OUT"

(But just for the record I read somewhere that Logic Pro does MIDI-OUT)


Before I posted my question here I searched and did not find anyone else asking the same question as me. A lot of people don't understand that you can't plug an analogue device straight into a computer. You can go into the microphone jack but you don't get a very good sound. To make things better you need an Audio Interface, like my Apogee Duet


A pure MIDI keyboard makes no sound of its own but a keyboard like mine can do Audio and MIDI


It seems that a lot of people think that once you're connected to a computer you can do "anything" And most of the questions are from people asking how they can record their Keyboard Sounds in Garageband when connected via MIDI, but...


You can only record Audio (Your Keyboard's Sounds) when connected via an Audio Interface. And you can only record "Software Sounds" when connected via MIDI (Musical Instrument Digital Interface)


I think you are assuming that I am asking the same question as the majority of other people. So I do apollogies if my question wasn't very clear. But in any case you did help me find the answer to my question. Garageband does not do MIDI-OUT


cheers,

Doug

Oct 14, 2013 11:31 AM in response to HangTime

Once again, no I am not trying to transmit audio via MIDI. But I am starting to understand where you are coming from. It might help to point out that my keyboard has MIDI-IN, therefore it would be able to reproduce software sounds coming from another device via its DAC's

Oct 14, 2013 11:50 AM in response to Keith Barkley

Keith, I wouldn't make that connection you suggest even if keyboards had an audio Line-in. Believe me I've done things like that in the past and its fraught with danger. Interference, feedback, atomic meltdown. I don't remember what devices I've used in the past but I just know not to try to achieve things unless there is a 'proper' way to do it


Actually I do remember one thing (its a bit different) but I ran an amplifier with the wrong ohm speakers. It blew the amplifier up and could have caused a fire. When it cooled down I had a look inside and there were the remains of a capacitor and its guts splattered all over everything else

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