HT201441: Turn off Find My iPhone Activation Lock
Learn about Turn off Find My iPhone Activation Lock
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Oct 9, 2015 10:44 AM in response to windymiller55by ZikzakCorp,I think this is all academic regarding Apple's policies. You said that you actually managed to speak to the original owner, which is more than anyone else in this thread has been able to do. Based on your conversation, the original owner quite clearly refused to unlock the phone. Even if Apple did bypass activation lock (which they don't), Apple isn't going to go against the original owner's wishes. Like you said, you gambled and lost. Learn from it and don't buy iCloud locked iPhones again.
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Oct 9, 2015 10:49 AM in response to windymiller55by Michael Black,windymiller55 wrote:
In my naivety I thought that Apple encouraged their communities to comment
on issues that they thought relevant, in my opinion, obviously from your point
of view I am wrong and you think this issue is not worth discussing.
As to Apple only having responsibility to the original owner of the phone and
no one else, your quote, are you quite sure, a lot of people who bought
second hand phones will not be pleased with your comments.
And the onus was on the sellers of those second hand phones to properly prepare their personal property for sale, which includes removing activation lock. Again, if the seller did not do that, and the buyer failed to check it was done, that is on those two parties, not the company that originally sold the device at retail, or who manufactured it. Apple has responsibility to the original purchaser that they, or their authorized sellers, sold it to. Once it was originally sold, it became the responsibility of that new owner to secure, or unsecure, their own property If or when it was sold, given away, auctioned off, pawned or whatever.
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Oct 14, 2015 5:02 AM in response to Michael Blackby Sebastian Koylerian,Best thing for all you people is to stop buying Apple Products ever again and look for android mobiles with similar or better functionality so that Apple will take a retreat from such policies adversely affecting genuine buyers of their phone either from apple stores or from secondary markets. I am saying this as I am a victim of Activation Lock Screen which rendered my own i phone 4 in to a brick. It surprising to read many commenting that the Apple can not do any thing about it. They can do every thing with your device as your device is perpetually connected to their server. Though you may pay money to buy the product, in practice the company owns and controls all your devices and they can render them useless whenever they want and create **** for you. So this is what is happening now all in the name and false pretext of security.
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by Briansyddall,Oct 14, 2015 5:40 AM in response to Sebastian Koylerian
Briansyddall
Oct 14, 2015 5:40 AM
in response to Sebastian Koylerian
Level 6 (8,640 points)
Apple WatchHi
The Apple id lock is the best thing that Apple has done
Iphones/ iPads stolen / lost are no use only to the owner
If you had your way we would all leave key in cars and say help your self.
People who buy iPhones/ iPads should ask if find my iPhone has been
Turned off.
Ebay will give a full refund if iPhone is locked.
Cheers
Brian (uk)
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Oct 14, 2015 5:53 AM in response to Sebastian Koylerianby KiltedTim,Sebastian Koylerian wrote:
Best thing for all you people is to stop buying Apple Products ever again and look for android mobiles with similar or better functionality so that Apple will take a retreat from such policies adversely affecting genuine buyers of their phone either from apple stores or from secondary markets. I am saying this as I am a victim of Activation Lock Screen which rendered my own i phone 4 in to a brick. It surprising to read many commenting that the Apple can not do any thing about it. They can do every thing with your device as your device is perpetually connected to their server. Though you may pay money to buy the product, in practice the company owns and controls all your devices and they can render them useless whenever they want and create **** for you. So this is what is happening now all in the name and false pretext of security.
Good luck with that.
Activation locks and similar "kill switches" are quickly being mandated by law in many places. The best thing to do is use a little common sense when purchasing things to make sure they are in fact, usable before you shell out your money.
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by Meg St._Clair,Oct 14, 2015 6:08 AM in response to Sebastian Koylerian
Meg St._Clair
Oct 14, 2015 6:08 AM
in response to Sebastian Koylerian
Level 9 (58,959 points)
iPhoneSebastian Koylerian wrote:
They can do every thing with your device as your device is perpetually connected to their server. Though you may pay money to buy the product, in practice the company owns and controls all your devices and they can render them useless whenever they want and create **** for you. So this is what is happening now all in the name and false pretext of security.
No one is required to activate Find My iPhone. Most of us choose to do so as it contributes to making iPhones a less desirable target of theft. iPhones used to account for about 30% of non-violent thefts in New York City prior to the implementation of Activation Lock.
You don't have to lock your phone. You don't have to lock your house. You can post your email password on the internet. No one here really cares.
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Oct 14, 2015 6:45 AM in response to Sebastian Koylerianby Csound1,Sebastian Koylerian wrote:
Best thing for all you people is to stop buying Apple Products ever again and look for android mobiles with similar or better functionality so that Apple will take a retreat from such policies
Maybe the best thing for you, but most of us are smart enough not to buy a locked phone, and you don't speak for us.
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Oct 14, 2015 7:20 AM in response to Sebastian Koylerianby Michael Black,Sebastian Koylerian wrote:
Best thing for all you people is to stop buying Apple Products ever again and look for android mobiles .
Nope, not me. I'm more than passingly familiar with Android and want no part of it. My next phone will be an iPhone, but - and here's a tip for you - I will be sure to buy from Apple or an Apple authorized reseller and NOT spring for the cheapest used device from an unverifiable source that is commonly known for sales scams, ripoffs and outright stolen property listings.
I would say what people need to learn is just because you can always find a used bargain somewhere on the intent does not mean it is a good deal or money well spent. People naively chase the lowest price point without thinking it through as to what they may be actually buying and from whom, and what recourse they have it is not, gasp, just as advertised (the Internet lies? NO, say it isn't so!!).
Activation lock has a major impact on iPhone theft and is one of the best new features Apple has introduced in a long time. Android phone makers are scrambling to catch up with something similar, and many Android forums are full of posts asking for just that.
http://www.macrumors.com/2015/02/11/iphone-theft-activation-lock/
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Oct 14, 2015 7:30 AM in response to Michael Blackby Meg St._Clair,Michael Black wrote:
Activation lock has a major impact on iPhone theft and is one of the best new features Apple has introduced in a long time. Android phone makers are scrambling to catch up with something similar, and many Android forums are full of posts asking for just that.
Samsung now offers something similar.
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Oct 14, 2015 7:57 AM in response to Meg St._Clairby Michael Black,Thanks Meg - I read through a few news posts after seeing your post and I see it is even called "reactivation lock". I gather anything sold in CA now requires a kill switch? Samsung even has the same sort of feature with a Samsung online account and the ability to track your phone remotely. Between this sort of thing and improvements in carrier blacklist sharing, hopefully phone theft will become a wholly pointless crime.
But it also should emphasize to everyone buying used devices from effectively anonymous online sources - any smart phone may prove useless to you, not just iPhones.
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Nov 21, 2015 8:11 PM in response to tonefoxby macduyxuan,Im asking my last iphone user,,of course they scare to give me app id and password, ,i try to ask them remove app id but seem they dont knowdont know and no time to read the instruction, ,,oh god
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Nov 22, 2015 5:37 AM in response to macduyxuanby Michael Black,They do not have to give you any personal information at all. All they need to do to remove activation lock is log in to their iCloud account in a web browser on a computer and remove the device from their list of tracked devices.
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Mar 12, 2016 3:01 AM in response to shubh kohliby Roger Wilmut1,shubh kohli wrote:
same problm here plz help
As has already been explained, only the previous owner can help you by either giving you the ID and password, or removing the phone from his list of devices. Apple cannot unlock it for you. if you cannot contact the previous owner or persuade him to help you then the phone is permanently useless.
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May 10, 2016 11:47 AM in response to Aldaseby Lion ,There needs to Be away to get past a Locked iphone thats Icloud locked. Im Tired of all the Scammers Puting on the Icloud lock and Selling the Phones 90% of thes Phones isnt Even reported lost or stolen or even black listed. its not about there data on the phone if u are on the Icloud Lock screen there no data on the Phone
hers a Thought if a device or acc hasn't been used in a Month delete there old device and if the hole acc hasnt been used in a Month Delete it as well BC if u haven't used it in that Long you not going to use it