IPod shuffle 2nd generation is not recognized. Support pages are not helping

Itunes version 11.1.1 (11) OS version 10.6.8


Shuffle not reconized either by Itunes or Finder on IMac. I reset the shuffle. It is fully charged fromt he wall outlet. I have the latest version of ITunes. I rebooted the computer. The help pages are unfortunately a circular reference. I went through all the steps and the last suggestion is to restore the shuffle and then in ITunes click restore. EXCEPT, it isn't recogized in ITunes which is the problem in the first place so how can you restore it if it can't be recognized. Very frustrating.


I see many people with this same problem but no real solutions given. Just a reguratation of the steps to recover that are in the support pages. Help.

iPod shuffle, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Oct 16, 2013 1:35 PM

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Oct 16, 2013 4:19 PM in response to Frustrated1111111111

iPods do not appear in Finder unless you have it set to Manually manage music or Enable disk use (in the shuffle's Summary screen in iTunes). So that may be OK.


If this is the first time you have installed iTunes 11.x, the sidebar (along left side of iTunes window) may be hidden. To show the sidebar, from the iTunes menu bar, under View, select Show Sidebar. The shuffle appears in the sidebar, under DEVICES, when connected.


If this is an older shuffle (2nd gen), make sure you are using the USB docking cable that came with it. A cable that is for the 3rd or 4th gen shuffle does not work with the older shuffle, because the connector is different.

Oct 17, 2013 9:23 AM in response to Frustrated1111111111

Snow Leopard should not be a problem. According to the tech specs for a 2nd gen shuffle, it should work with Tiger (10.4.8 or later) and iTunes 7.4 or later.


http://support.apple.com/kb/SP27


Since that same USB docking cable and shuffle work properly on another computer, the problem is likely to be on the Mac. The odd thing is that your iPod nano works on that same Mac, connected to the same USB port.


It's possible that the shuffle requires more power to operate and charge its battery when connected, or there may be some USB device conflict that affects the shuffle and not the nano. As a test, to rule out this possibility, I would shut down (power off) the iMac. Disconnect all USB devices (including any hub) from the iMac, except for standard USB keyboard/mouse. Start up the iMac, run iTunes, and connect the shuffle to a direct USB port on the iMac.


If this makes it work, your usual combination of USB devices (plus shuffle) may exceed the power available on the USB bus. Or, there may have been a USB device conflict with one of the other devices. This may explain why you get one orange blink on the shuffle's light when you connect it to the iMac, and nothing after that.

Oct 17, 2013 11:52 AM in response to Frustrated1111111111

An iPod's disk format type may be an issue, but only for the "big" iPods. shuffles are always formatted using the Windows format, whether it is used on a Mac or a Windows PC. In fact, even those other iPod models can be formatted for Windows (using the "FAT" format) and they will still work on Mac. This is because Macs can read and write the Windows format used on iPods. (The opposite is not true; iPods used with a Windows PC must be formatted for Windows, because Windows cannot read the Mac format.)


However, the act of doing a Restore is a good thing to try. Unfortunately, you cannot do a Restore on the shuffle using your Mac, because iTunes does not see it. But if you can use your wife's PC, where it worked early, and do a Restore on the shuffle there, you can try that, and then connect it to your Mac. Doing a Restore erases the iPod and gives it a "fresh start," so it may solve the problem.


Therefore,

Other support pages in Apple suggest rebooting in safe mode and then using the disc utility to change the formatting on the shuffle from DOS Fat to an Apple format.

does not apply for the shuffle. However, you should try booting into Safe Mode


http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1455


Then, run Disk Utility to see of the shuffle's disk appears in the Disk Utility sidebar. If it does, that may suggest that you have an extension loading (maybe a third-party driver) when you start up normally that interferes with the shuffle being recognized. You don't need to take any action on the shuffle, just see if it appears in Disk Utility when starting up in Safe Mode.


Here are two other test I can think of trying, to help narrow down the cause...


Create a new user account in System Preferences Accounts pane. It can be an Admin or Standard account. I keep a "Test User" account for troubleshooting. Log out and log in to the new user account. Do not use Fast User Switching. In the new user account, try running iTunes and see if the shuffle is recognized. If it is, that may suggest that there is something in your usual user account that is causing this problem. It may be a user preferences setting that is corrupted, or a background process that is set to run automatically when you log in. If there is no change in the new user account, the cause is more likely to be at the system level (not related to a particular user account).


The other test is to start up using your Snow Leopard installation disc. Insert disc and restart with the C key held down. This takes you to the Installer screen. Go up to the menu bar, and under Utilities, select to run Disk Utility. If you connect the shuffle now, its disk should appear in the Disk Utility sidebar. If it does, the problem may be caused by a system-level issue in your current Snow Leopard installation.

Oct 16, 2013 6:22 PM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

Sir,


Thank you for your answer. The IPod Shuffle is not recognized in ITues OR Finder. I cannot go to the Shuffle's Summary Screen in order to enable the disk use because the shuffle does not appear in ITunes thus, there is no Summary screen to go to.


As an aside I do have an IPod nano that is recogized so I do know what the summary screen looks like.


This is not the first time I have used ITuns 11.x and the sidebar is NOT hidden.


I am using the original dock and docking cable that I got years ago with the shuffle. I have plugged the USB into the keyboard port AND a USB port in the back of the IMac with the same negative result.

Oct 16, 2013 10:28 PM in response to Frustrated1111111111

Since you have a nano, and it works fine, I think you have ruled out a problem with the USB port. And while troubleshooting, you should not use the spare USB port on the keyboard, because it may not provide sufficient power to reliably run the iPod and charge its battery.


I wasn't suggesting that you Enable disk use. I was only mentioning that the iPod not appearing in Finder may be fine (and not a symptom of the problem), depending on how it is currently set up.


However, it should obviously appear in iTunes when connected. Since your nano works properly when connected to iTunes using the same USB port, the two remaining possibilities are faulty USB docking cable and problem on the shuffle.


EDIT: I asked which shuffle you had... I did not notice you mentioned it is 2nd gen in the subject line.


When you connect the shuffle to the Mac, does the light on the shuffle come ON? If it does, what does it do?

Oct 17, 2013 8:37 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

Sir,


Again thanks for you efforts with regards to my problem. I didn't mean to sound ungrateful when I was speaking about the summary screen. I just wanted you to know that I was aware of the screen and what it is used for and what the various settings on the Summary screen did.


Yes the shuffle I have is a second generation shuffle with the original docking port. I use the AC adapter and the docking port and usb connection to the AC adapter to sucessfully charge the shuffle so I am prettiy sure the cable is okay. The shuffle itself works fine. When I plug the earbuds into the properly charged shuffle he music plays just fine. Since I can charge it via AC and hear music, I suspect that the problem IS NOT in the cable or the earbud input port.


I connect the cable to a USB port in the back of the IMac. I then put the fully charged shuffle into the dock withe the suffle in the OFF position. I get ONE and only ONE quick orange blink and the no light at all.


Big news. I went to my wife's work machine she is running Windows 7 and ITunes for windows version 1.1.11. Shuffle is recoginzed and everthing is normal there. It is not mechanical. It is something in my machine.


Could it be the older generation of shuffle doesn't work with snow leopard?

Oct 17, 2013 10:49 AM in response to Kenichi Watanabe

HP printer was turned off but plugged into a USB port on the keyboard, Unplugged it from the keyboard.


Logitech mouse using a transmitting device plugged into a USB prot on the keyboard. Unplugged the device and inserted the mouse that came with the computer.


WD Passport connected to IMac via a USB port in the back. Ejected and unplugged the external drive.


Rebooted. No change. When I configured the machine as described above it was exactly the same configuration as when I bought the IMac except for the OS and ITunes versions. Which as your link suggests should not matter.


The only thing different from when I originally loaded the shuffle with music is that now I am connected to the internet via an Airport Extreme whereas years ago I was connected directly through an ethernet cable, but really this should have nothing to do with it.


Other support pages in Apple suggest rebooting in safe mode and then using the disc utility to change the formatting on the shuffle from DOS Fat to an Apple format. I have never used safe mode so I am reluctant to do this.


What do you think of the following:


I believe I found what the problem was. My wife's 2nd generation iPod is now recognized by iTunes every time I plug it back in (I've done that 7-8 times now). The solution I used is the one from JWA in the thread "2ndd gen Shuffle not recognized in OSX/iTunes after OSX/Itunes update". Why didn't it work? Because my iPod was formatted with a Windows system and it was set to DOS FAT. When I followed JWA's solution (rebooting MAC system in safe mode and erasing iPod), I noticed that it was formatted in DOS FAT mode, so I evidently changed it to one of the Mac systems before erasing it. I rebooted the MAC as usual, connected the iPod and it was recognized. Just to be sure I did use the iPod restore utility and then reconfigured the iPod with iTunes. A bit of a lengthy process overall but definitely worth it.


One common thing happening with the different users who were having the same issue was that it would work on a PC but not on Mac. I should have thought about it...

Nov 19, 2013 6:42 PM in response to Frustrated1111111111

Hi Ken and Frustrated,


Just to add info to the discussion. I am having the exact same problem. My 2GB 2nd gen shuffle works on my Win7 pc, but not on late-2012 Imac or my wife's 2010 Imac. One oddity though is my 1GB 2nd gen shuffle works fine on both macs and the pc! I don't know if it has anything to do with a support issue for the 2GB shuffle in itunes.


If either of you are able to figure it out, I would love to hear the solution!


Thanks!

Nov 20, 2013 2:01 AM in response to chinesepolarbear

I don't know if you tried all the suggestions previously mentioned in this topic, but if it works with one of your computers, connect it there and do a Restore on it using iTunes. As mentioned in this topic, shuffles are formatted using the Windows disk format even when used with a Mac, so it will not be a problem if you Restore it using a Windows PC and then use it with a Mac.


After doing the Restore, connect it to your Mac.

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