Multicam angle viewer frozen during edit

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Multicam angle viewer frozen during edit

I'm just starting to edit a three-camera interview with FCPX's otherwise elegent multi-cam edit feature. However as I play the multi-clip in the timeline, the cuts are being effected properly via keystroke, as they should, however the clips in the angle viewer are frozen in place forcing me to guess at where to make the cuts as the timeline runs. I can scrub through the multiclip in the media browser and it moves the three angles then. But they stand still when I try to edit.

I've restarted FCP. I've restarted the computer. I've zapped the PRAM. I've repaired permissions multiple times. I've trashed permissions. I even changed the clip to proxy media. Nothing's working. What up here?

iMac, OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 16, 2013 7:36 PM

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Answer 1

Russ H

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Oct 17, 2013 8:19 AM in response to Brunettin

What is the model of your Mac (System Report>Hardware)?

Where are your events and projects located? If they are on a drive other than your start-up disk, what kind of a drive is it and how is it connected?

Can you edit single stream project's OK?

Russ

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Brunettin Author

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Oct 17, 2013 11:51 AM in response to Russ H

It's a 27" iMac quad core i7 2.8 GHz

The event is on an external FW 800 drive. The projects are on the same internal hard drive as the system but on a separate partition.

All other editing is perfectly fine.

alan b

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Tom Wolsky

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Oct 17, 2013 12:00 PM in response to Brunettin

Your projects should be on your media drive not the system drive even if it's a separate partition.

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Tom Wolsky

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Oct 17, 2013 12:03 PM in response to Brunettin

You have said anything about the specs of the media, which are probably the most important factor in playback performance.

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Brunettin Author

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Oct 17, 2013 1:20 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

We had a HPX 170 and 250 both shooting 720 DVCPRO 60p. Also a 7D also shooting 720 60p. Footage was initially imported as optimized media but the I tried transcoding to proxy in an attempt to get this angle viewer working.

WIlll I mess up my project if I move it en masse over to the other drive?

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Tom Wolsky

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Oct 17, 2013 1:32 PM in response to Brunettin

That's a lot of data. Try proxies. The other problem is the mixed frame sizes that is very hard for the processor.

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Brunettin Author

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Oct 17, 2013 3:05 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

Roger that.

Say, coincidentally I just got a warning that the 500GB partition that the projects are on just hit the ceiling; 35 MB left! Will I compromise the project if I just move the FinalCutProjects folder over to the drive the Event is on?

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Tom Wolsky

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Oct 17, 2013 3:51 PM in response to Brunettin

Ok. That drive's way beyond full. Use FCP to move it. Of it from inside the application in the File menu.

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Brunettin Author

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Oct 17, 2013 4:30 PM in response to Tom Wolsky

There's an understatement! Yeah I've already cleared off a coupla hundred gigs. Found some massive redundancies. Rearranged others.

So I can't just move the discrete FInal Cut Projects folder over to another drive? There are no other projects in that folder besides this one in question. I've never noticed a menu item for such a manuever.

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Tom Wolsky

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Oct 17, 2013 4:42 PM in response to Brunettin

Select the project in the library and the move and copy functions will be in the File menu. Don't just move it because the file paths to media will change and you may have to reassign it. It's safest to copy it from within FCP. Verify the project integrity and then trash the old project.

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Russ H

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Oct 17, 2013 6:14 PM in response to Brunettin

So for the benefit of others who've been following this thread, was the full start-up disk the cause of your multicam "freeze"?

Thanks.

Russ

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Brunettin Author

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Oct 18, 2013 4:46 PM in response to Russ H

Wow...discussions are finally back! That took a while...

...anyway...I'm sorry. I may have misled with that "This solved my question" but Mr. Wolsky must surely have helped plenty of people without receiving credit so let's just give him this one.

What I meant by that was that it answered my question about migrating a project from one drive to another without messing with my event. (boy I hate this terminology. If anything shouldn't Projects be called Events and vice versa? I think so. Regardless, they're dumb labels) I guess I should have rated it "This helped me."

But no, the freeze has NOT thawed. Even switching to Proxy media did not do the trick. I don't know that the full disc issue ever was in question in this regard anyway; it was just to darn full for any operational purposes. But I also had to move the projects as they were on my system disc. (or, more accurately, a partition thereof) And that didn't help the freeze either.

So I'm still editing blind, sort of. Fortunately it's just an interview. It's easy enough to do it without the footage being viewable in the angles viewer. If it were anything else it would be a much bigger problem, so I hope I can get this fixed soon.

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Russ H

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Oct 18, 2013 5:42 PM in response to Brunettin

Thanks for the update. Sorry you're still sorting the freezes.

Russ

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