Help!! Consumer watch V John Lewis

Hi All
I am a Mac virgin and John Lewis are not making it any easier. Please bear with me as I really need some advice.

On the 4th of May I brought 2 iMac 20inch 2GHz intel Core duo's from John Lewis department store for my business. I spent serveral days setting up, updateing and installing software on "iMac #1". When I was happy I knew what I was doing with a Mac I attempted to set up my collegues "iMac #2". After a lunch break I returned to iMac #2 to see a screen saver. After moving the mouse I got a scrambled screen which only went away by switching off. After speaking to John Lewis technical they said the Mac was faulty and would need to be replaced.

2 days later the same happened to iMac #1. Having spent several days setting it up I was reluctant to have it replaced so after reading others on this forum came to a compromise of switching the screen saver off to stop it happening. A month later the hard drive on iMac #1 died. I called John Lewis technical and they confirmed the death and said it requires a "repair/replacement". So I called the branch I purchased it from to arrange a replacement and was told I could only send it away for repair as it was older than 28 days and that my guarantee was not valid with them if I was using the Mac for business as they only deal with domestic users.

At this point I ended the conversation and called trading standards/consumer watch who informed me I was entitled to a repair or replacement which ever was more convenient for me regardless of being over 28 days "it is part of my statutary rights as a consumer". After several conversations with John Lewis they maintain that I can only send the mac of to be repaired and will not budge. I explained what I was told by consumer watch and that I had spent over £2,500 on macs that were faulty and would like a new one not a fixed one but with no joy.

Can anyone help me as to where to take this or if Apple might even help restore my inital joy of owning a Mac as I am/was very excited about trying to turn away from windows and poorly built pc's.

iMac 20": 2GHz Intel Core Duo, Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Posted on Jul 3, 2006 1:53 PM

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Jul 4, 2006 12:23 AM in response to Kappy

Obviously your problem is with the store from where
you purchased the Macs. If you call Apple support
all they will offer is to repair. If you want
replacements then you will need to deal with the
store where you bought them.

These forums cannot provide you any assistance.


Thanks!
I am fully aware of where my problem lies. I, like everyone else who posts a question, was merely looking for advise from people who may have or have come across a similar issue. I'm guessing you know that no-one else in the world had a faulty Mac and wanted a replacement but was only offered a repair this is how you can state "These forums cannot provide you any assistance."???


iMac 20": 2GHz Intel Core Duo

iMac 20": 2GHz Intel Core Duo

Jul 4, 2006 3:27 AM in response to jezza90

sorry to hear about you troubles
if apple cant help i would continue with the better buisness bureo (not sure how to spell it) LOL
i think you get a year of apple care on new machines automatically
i extended to 3 years
you should definatlly let apple know
im sure they dont want that kind of stuff going on.well let us know
good luck !
ps
are you in the states ?

Jul 4, 2006 3:53 AM in response to jezza90

jezza90,

The Sale of Goods Act here in the UK states that "when goods go wrong within the first month (my emphasis), the buyer is entitled to reject the goods and receive a replacement".

Herein lies the crux of the matter as it would appear from what you say that the hard drive died after the one month had expired.

I think you need to have another conversation with John Lewis (who are after all a very reputable trader), but before doing so arm yourself with some knowledge about Consumer Law/Sale of Goods Act. Just Google for a ton of info.

Your computer is covered by Apple's one year warranty regardless, so at the very least you would get it repaired.

In view of the time limit, this may be your only option.

Jul 4, 2006 5:25 AM in response to jezza90

Hi jezza90,

If you are not getting anywhere with John Lewis, two alternative avenues immediately come to mind:

1. You can take the iMac(s) to any independant Apple Authorised Service Provider (AASP) who will be able to carry out any repairs under warranty on behalf of Apple. If you can advise of your location (just a rough geographical location) I can post back a list of AASP's for you to call and arrange. All things being equal as far as stock is concerned you could, conceivably, take the iMac in one day and collect it later in the day or the following day.

2. Did you use a credit card to make the purchase? If you did then you can get your credit card issuer involved as they provide additional ptotection on purchases above £100.

Going down the Sale of Goods Act route is something that I would not recommend. Not because it won't work. It will as you are in the right. It is a time consuming excercise though, and at the end of the day all you are after are 2 iMacs that work as quickly as possible.

RD

Jul 4, 2006 10:34 AM in response to jezza90

Hello and Welcome to the world of Apple Computer users 🙂

Don't get the wrong impression from some here in Apple cyber-land. Most of us will help you as best as we can. Some will tell you to read the rules and don't ask questions not approved by the people that review your questions. I was very new once also, and asked many questions. So ask away, and you will learn in time 🙂

When you buy an Apple Computer, or any other item for that matter, and it breaks down, Apple has the right to fix it or replace it. They choose, not you. If it breaks over and over, then most of the time Apple will replace it with a new one. Again they decide, not you. Apple is a really good company. They will really do their best to help you. If your iMac failed after just a week or so, then the place you bought it from should have replaced it for you. If they refuse to replace it after only a week or so, then never buy a thing from them again, tell every one you know how their customer service is, and call your version of the "Better Business Bureau" and report what happened. It is a shame that you had lemons, but it truth, Apple Computers are very well made and rarely if ever break down. I have had Apple Computers for over 24 years. I had only one ever give me a problem. After three "fixes" Apple replaced it with a brand new one. Good luck and please don't think this is the norm.

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