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How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?


iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Oct 30, 2013 8:56 AM in response to jonfromdaleville

I don't know exactly why, my MacBook Pro enabled 5 times the iCloud syncing on my contact list and callendar. I also don't know why (but I guess that it was because the cloud was still syncing), not every contact was quadruplied. And when I first pressed the option for stop syncing the contacts, didn't work. When I opened the Contacts App in order to disable the iCloud sync, it crashed at least 6 times in a roll. When I was finally able to disable the iCloud sync, ALL MY CONTACTS disappeared and I believe this is due to the fact that I asked the system to erase contacts from iCloud, but of course I thought that the system would keep my "old" contacts there, which didn't happen. And now I'm almost having a nervous breakdown!

Oct 30, 2013 9:03 AM in response to Gerrit7

I don't know what the fuss is all about. All of a sudden the services we've all been using for the last 20 years are now called cloud services because they are accessible from all other the internet instead of just your company's internal network. Why are they even called cloud services? I mean, mail, calendar, contacts etc..? You've had that 'cloud service' for the last 20 years in the form of Microsoft Exchange.


Sync over the wire is the thing thats 1996, not over the air syncing. I am not saying you should all stop whining and use iCloud, no, please god no. I also appreciate my data and like to have it in my own hands and have set up an ESXi box with several servers virtualized on it to provide me with all the cloud-service you can ever think of, but all privately. You don't have to go through all the hassle because they've created something for you: OS X Server. You just run to the Apple Store, buy a Mac Mini with OS X Server on it, throw it in your network, configure some ports, which if you own an Airport, is done automatically at the click of a button. And off you go, private over the air syncing, all your data, in your own control.


And the new dumbed down version of OS X Server is so simplified you can run it along side on your client, no problem at all, as long as you don't turn it off. But who turns his non-portable mac off anyway.


Best of luck.


@DHoogs turning off iCloud will delete all iCloud's data of your device, the data that is allready uploaded to iCloud's servers will not be deleted. And upon deletion of all iCloud's data off your device your contacts that were not stored in iCloud will remain. It has been that way with Exchange servers, and it still is with iCloud. Basically iCloud is an exchange server for calendar, contact, task mail etc. The only addittion is some smart file-sharing.

Oct 30, 2013 10:03 AM in response to DHoogs

DHoogs


Oct 30, 2013 11:56 AM ( in response to jonfromdaleville)

I don't know exactly why, my MacBook Pro enabled 5 times the iCloud syncing on my contact list and callendar. I also don't know why (but I guess that it was because the cloud was still syncing), not every contact was quadruplied. And when I first pressed the option for stop syncing the contacts, didn't work. When I opened the Contacts App in order to disable the iCloud sync, it crashed at least 6 times in a roll. When I was finally able to disable the iCloud sync, ALL MY CONTACTS disappeared and I believe this is due to the fact that I asked the system to erase contacts from iCloud, but of course I thought that the system would keep my "old" contacts there, which didn't happen. And now I'm almost having a nervous breakdown!


Sorry to hear ... I went thru same experience, duplication of data and then wipe out when I tried the iCloud sync, just to test and be informed. The only difference is that I have made backups (export) of my contact and calendar data before experimenting with iCloud.


DO THE BACKUP/EXPORT OF YOUR CALENDAR, CONTACT, AND ANY OTHER DATA BEFORE SYNCING VIA ICLOUD.


As I was experimenting and syncing multiple devices, I’ve got the duplication of data. Perhaps because data on each device that was synced via cable before was treated as unique … how stupid is that. I’ve got a complete wipeout of my calendar data, and my contact data was threatened but recoverable.


Don’t dare to sign off from icloud after syncing because your “master” calendar data on your Mac will be wiped out … yes … wiped out clean!


DO THE BACKUPS/EXPORT BEFORE USING ICLOUD!

Oct 30, 2013 10:29 AM in response to Stokesymadrid

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Hey folks, more information on NSA having access to iCloudhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-infiltrates-links-to-y ahoo-google-data-centers-worldwide-snowden-documents-say/2013/10/30/e51d661e-41 6 6-11e3-8b74-d89d714ca4dd_story.html


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Yeah, this really makes me feel so much better about using iCloud (instert sarcasm here).


@handsOFFmydata


How is the export/import done? Is this the way, using the export to create the vCard for Contacts and ics file for calendar?


http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5871


I assume that these files can be imported into Address Book and iCal on my iMac, or Macbook, not just my iPod. This sounds like the hard way to get your Contacts and Calendar to your iPod, but I guess it would work. Though I can't understand why Apple decided to make getting the info to our iPods so much harder and it is not really a sync so much as a replace data on iPod. Two steps back.


TIA


Andy

Oct 30, 2013 10:37 AM in response to KiltedTim

Think you're missing the point and lacking perspective; Apple did not warn of the removal of local sync capability in Mavericks and have exposed a lot of non-power-user's data to the Apple Data Harvesting App known as iCloud with it's joke security without any warning whatsoever. For a European citizen this exposes them to prosecution under the various data protection acts should this information get into the wrong hands which, unless you live in a news bubble, is exactly what has just happened... The US Government is in flagrant breach of the 4th amendment as well as a whole bunch of international laws that they're signed up to. As a European citizen, it is incomprehensible to me how any American citizen can tolerate this flagrant disregard of a constitutional right that was so hard won by their ancestors.. this behaviour is reminiscent of the Stasi of East Germany. If you do not fiercely object to this criminal behaviour, then you do not deserve the constitutional protections you apparently do not understand.

Oct 30, 2013 10:50 AM in response to handsOFFmydata

@handsOFFmydata


Thanks, that's what I thought, I just wanted to confirm.


With all the data loss opportunities I am just trying to protect myself. I Apple would just give us the option in 10.9 as to where w keep/sync our Contacts and Calendars I would not be near as concerned as I already have a goo backup process in place for my data. I don't really trust third parties (including Apple) with my data security.


Just MHO, YMMV


Andy

Oct 30, 2013 10:53 AM in response to Chris Portman

Chris Portman wrote:


Think you're missing the point and lacking perspective

No, I'm not missing the point. The point is, this is a technical support forum. The feature was removed from Mavericks. Nothing anyone can say or do here will change that. Discussing Apple's policy decisions is prohibited by the TOS.



For a European citizen this exposes them to prosecution under the various data protection acts should this information get into the wrong hands which, unless you live in a news bubble, is exactly what has just happened...

Then call a lawyer.


The US Government is in flagrant breach of the 4th amendment as well as a whole bunch of international laws that they're signed up to.

Again, if it bothers you, call a lawyer. This is NOT the place for that discussion.


As a European citizen, it is incomprehensible to me how any American citizen can tolerate this flagrant disregard of a constitutional right that was so hard won by their ancestors..

Maybe you should educate yourself on how the American system of Constitutional law works, because you obviously do not understand it at all.


Apple is a private company. What they do has absolutely NOTHING to do with anyone's Constitutional rights.

Oct 30, 2013 10:54 AM in response to Chris Portman

Chris Portman wrote:


Think you're missing the point and lacking perspective; Apple did not warn of the removal of local sync capability in Mavericks and have exposed a lot of non-power-user's data to the Apple Data Harvesting App known as iCloud with it's joke security without any warning whatsoever.


What's actually worse IMHO are Apple's iCloud Terms & Conditions of Service:


• Apple states they will monitor your data and judge it. RE iCloud Terms and Conditions; Removal of Content


• Apple will provide your content to anyone they wish whether legally required or not. RE iCloud Terms and Conditions; Access to Your Account and Content

Oct 30, 2013 10:54 AM in response to Chris Portman

Chris Portman wrote:


this behaviour is reminiscent of the Stasi of East Germany. If you do not fiercely object to this criminal behaviour, then you do not deserve the constitutional protections you apparently do not understand.


Just a little translation here to help someone who doesn't know what 'Stasi' stands for understand:


Stasi is short for 'Ministerium für Staatssicherheit'


One possible translation is: 'Department of State Security'


To someone who is old enough to remember them, the names of certain agencies and departments do not evoke a feeling of safety.

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