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How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?


iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Mar 29, 2014 10:59 PM in response to Chris CA

You'd be surprised. Carbon footrpint is also about what it takes to get to where you are. There is also an environmental cost in the materials used to make your green energy.

Not saying Apple are actually using hazardous materials but just bear in mind it's often a lot more than the glossy magazines and colourful webpages released to the press.


One thing I am certain of is that those data centres, (as with most DC units), waste Kilowatt upon kilowatt to maintain data integrity. I wouldn't mind betting that they have N+3 redundancy for power supplies. I am well aware of how massive a compromise and difficult the subject of energy use against a running server environment is, but I assure you those places are not as green as you'd like. Wasted energy is wasted energy no matter where you get it.

Mar 30, 2014 12:51 PM in response to LD150

Not sure what you mean by late, too late for opinions, observations?


I upgraded to Mavericks a month ago, upgraded to a newer version of iOS 7 a week or so ago. I backed up, but I did not know, because Apple did not tell me, that the new data on my iPhone was not being synced. Lost the data. So I went looking for answers, isn't that what the forums are for?


By the way, I had another post here. Telling people there is a solution coming. Posted a public news story about it and Apple censored/removed it.


I have been using Apple computers and software since 1984, I've spent many multiples of thousands of dollars on them but I do not have slavish loyality. Apple is just a corporation, like any other.

Mar 30, 2014 2:52 PM in response to Garrett Cobarr

... I'm so aggravated about this issue of not being able to local sync, that I wrote a letter to Mr. Tim Cook a few weeks ago. I tried to use almost respectful words in explaining syncing problem... Against all believes of a few people on this forum (people that give the impression only to be on this forum to defend iCloud but not really to help), I got a call back from his office. At first I did not understand who was calling, but then I realized after the friendly lady mentioned Tim Cook... I was surprised and pleased that his office actually too the time to respond personally. So, they do look at everything that comes in and they respond.

Mar 30, 2014 6:53 PM in response to LD150

I did receive an email explaining that my conversation was censored, call it whatever you like. Never been a fan of managed corporate conversations.


Apple hardware and software users come to the forums because we have little to no choice to find out what is going on with the technology we purchase from Apple, often for thousands of dollars. You have more or less ceased producing quality, accurate and complete documentation. Information has become a treasure hunt.


I am not in habit of reading TOSs before I post on forums, as it relatively easy to avoid problems by being courteous and respectful. I find your suggestion that I broke the rules intentionally by posting a commonly known news item from a well known site, somewhat offensive.


As you well know, because you read it, the post and link was intended to give hope to the thousands of unhappy users in this thread. Logic would suggest that would be good of Apple as well.


Since you can pull posts and I cannot, you have the upper hand.

Mar 31, 2014 12:20 AM in response to Garrett Cobarr

Garrett Cobarr wrote:


I am not in habit of reading TOSs before I post on forums


Much as I can't say it's a good idea, a very refreshing piece of honesty there I must say. I didn't go through the entire thing when I joined either.

Don't have any numbers to back it up, (just as no one else can easily refute it), but I'd suggest that the vast majority of people don't read any of, or if they do understand all of a T&C document when they come across it. That even goes as far as mortgage paperwork let alone something as mundane as an internet forum.

Mar 31, 2014 2:21 AM in response to Garrett Cobarr

Garrett Cobarr wrote:


I am not in habit of reading TOSs before I post on forums,

Do you make it a general rule to ignore Terms of Use, or only here?


Since you can pull posts and I cannot, you have the upper hand.

peter_watt can not edit or remove posts, no poster can do that, posts are removed by the moderators for transgressing the Terms of Use, but you would have no way of knowing when yours do.

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