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How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?


iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Nov 2, 2013 6:20 AM in response to Gerrit7

I am just checking possibilities and depending on your knowledge and needs until now i found ...


Solution A) a local running Server and/or Intranet Server

1. Owncloud - https://owncloud.com

2. OS X Server
 ( via AppStore & not for free! )

3. Open Source Part of OS X Server: http://trac.calendarserver.org

How to´s: http://www.ronregev.com/misc/pim_server_tutorial/



Solution B) a local running Software / App

1. syncmate -> still NOT ready for Mavericks but they work on a solution !!!

- € 36 -> https://itunes.apple.com/de/app/syncmate-plus/id423327943

Nov 2, 2013 6:37 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

Who said anything about apple personnel reading every mesage? Applications that flag certain keywords apple deems damaging to the brand or in cases of profanity for example. It's not uncommon at all.


Yet another reason to stay away from icloud. Seemingly false claims about the safety of your icloud Keychain.


http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/apple-claim-that-icloud-ca n-store-passwords-only-locally-seems-to-be-false/


I hope syncmate works soon. Nice advice mori-muc.

Nov 2, 2013 9:34 AM in response to Gerrit7

Today back in Switzerland after 14months on the road. New contract with mobile provider. Sales guy: "Which phone would you like to have? Which one you have now?". Me: "I have an iPhone". Sales guy: "Guess you wanna stay with Apple then?". Me: "I wish I could but unfortunately Apple treats me as they would own me and my data...so no. Give me the HTC one".


Later:

Unpack, install - transfer data from iPhone with a few clicks with HTC sync software. Done - sweet!


Please Apple, let me know when you get back to normal - then I can sell that HTC and buy an iPhone again...

Nov 2, 2013 10:09 AM in response to mori-muc

mori-muc wrote:


I am just checking possibilities and depending on your knowledge and needs until now i found ...


Solution A) a local running Server and/or Intranet Server

1. Owncloud - https://owncloud.com

2. OS X Server
 ( via AppStore & not for free! )

3. Open Source Part of OS X Server: http://trac.calendarserver.org

How to´s: http://www.ronregev.com/misc/pim_server_tutorial/



Solution B) a local running Software / App

1. syncmate -> still NOT ready for Mavericks but they work on a solution !!!

- € 36 -> https://itunes.apple.com/de/app/syncmate-plus/id423327943


Thanks for the summary of the potential solutions ... worth quoting again!

Nov 2, 2013 10:14 AM in response to mori-muc

Well there you are I'll contribute after following this discussion from page to page ever since I encountered the problem since last Sunday's 'FREE' up-grade. I agree with mori-muc that those seem to be the options if you want to stay with Mavericks. But it does involve upfront investment(s) (time, and in case of server 3.0 money as well) that we haven't asked for/were not counting on to be nesseccary. Furthermore, I realized that running your own server actually coasts more, because you now have to dedicate a machine that is on 24/7, and as others have indicated your best bet would be an energy friendly iMac at 85W, which on a yearly basis would mean more than 170 Eur here in the Netherlands. As I don't have a spare iMac myself, it would mean an old PPC G4 running Tiger and installing 'Calendar and Contacts server' 5.0 for free as per previously mentioned link (http://www.ronregev.com/misc/pim_server_tutorial/). THE CARBON FOOTPRINT OF THAT!

Therefore, I'm in the camp of down-graders. If you made a timeMachine back-up just before up-grading the aforementioned link will be VERY helpfull (http://support.apple.com/kb/PH11181?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US). Make sure to make a timeMachine back-up of the latest situation in Mavericks. You will have data produced in the meantime that you want to have available once you down-graded (in my case some text documents and mail messages that I recieved/send and my browsing history). You will not believe the thrill you get, being able to sync normally/locally after having to do without for only a week! It's well worth the time it takes to down-grade (4.5 hours ⚠ in my case).

I do believe everyone who thinks this move of Apple is atrocious should let it be known through all the channels suggested (feedback on App store, petition(s), Apple complaints departments (http://www.apple.com/feedback/) and chose all appropriate platforms/systems. Inundate them with complaints, so they'll appreciate the seriousness of this issue.

Nov 2, 2013 11:56 AM in response to RMH

RMH wrote:


You will not believe the thrill you get, being able to sync normally/locally after having to do without for only a week! It's well worth the time it takes to down-grade (4.5 hours ⚠ in my case).


Oh, I DO believe ... have done it myself and I am very HAPPY that i have done the roll back to OSX 10.8.5.


Hoping for the best, the USB sync back, but preparing for the worst … a migration from the iMESS Apple put me into, back to the real world where business priorities are more important than ill conceived gearhead ideas … and this comes from a someone who is a gearhead and APPLE products user since 1985.

Nov 2, 2013 12:06 PM in response to handsOFFmydata

handsOFFmydata wrote:


back to the real world where business priorities are more important than ill conceived gearhead ideas … and this comes from a someone who is a gearhead and APPLE products user since 1985.


My business priorities include having all my staff get their appointments and contact data without having to keep coming back to the office to 'plug in'.


Not everyone has the same needs as you.

Nov 2, 2013 1:12 PM in response to Csound1

We do that too ... sync with the office ... you have not lost it ... why are you inquiring about it then? We, and the others here, also need untethered sync between the devices we/they use. Got a solution for that under OSX 10.9 without server overhead?


Keywords: multiplicity, flexibility, choice, and simplicity whenever possible ...

... are the signs of a great design.


BTW, untethered = no connectivity (Internet, LAN, etc.)

Nov 2, 2013 2:22 PM in response to KiltedTim

Just to reply to the person who keeps saying that if you don't like Mavericks, go back to Mountain Lion: That is not a possibility for me, since I just purchased a new Mac where the only option is Mavericks. In addition to an iPhone, I also have a first generation iPod Touch which now can't sync contacts and calendar since its OS is too old for iCloud.


I've had some very bad experiences with iCloud in the past and really don't want to use it. So I guess for the time being, I will just keep syncing and backing up on my old computer, and occasionally export the database for importing into the new Mac. Not an optimal workflow, but it seems like the easiest solution for now.

Nov 2, 2013 2:52 PM in response to Gerrit7

thanks to mori-muc and to handOFFmydata.

Like many other I had this bad surprise of the missing syncservices in iTunes+Mavericks. This is really outrageous to be forced to use a cloud service we don't want to. I won't discuss this but Just to add one thing :

I tried Baïkal as an addon on a my NAS i already owned and it WORKED PERFECTLY. It worked at my 2nd attempts and then it took me 2 hours to configure it. Before Apple's 'bad move', I was completely ignorant in ca..DAV or about PHP and now I have an opensource solution completely free and it looks very professional and reliable. AND I can access it from anywhere in the world. It's really a personnal Cloud way much easier than installing Owncloud (and seems unstable).

Baïkal is a lightweight CalDAV + CardDAV server based on PHP, SQlite and SabreDAV. It works with MacOS, iOS, Android, Thunderbird so with All devices mobiles or PC (linux and windows). Just TRY it !

http://baikal-server.com

https://github.com/jeromeschneider/Baikal


If you don't own a NAS I would advice you to buy a cheap ARMbased model (less than 100$) 🙂 : it's quite easy if you choose carefully the good brand ! Or use an old PC to make it a server or even install free4nas (for "advanced users"). In my opinion it's better to invest 100$ in something you can use for many other things than 20$/40$ in a software that will only sync your iOS device.


BIG THANKS to Jérôme Schneider who developed it based on SabreDAV 😎

Nov 2, 2013 4:13 PM in response to Gerrit7

I have a new iMac and a new iPad and a very old iPod. The new release quite simply has sabotaged my ability to maintain the use of multiple Apple mobile and desktop devices. My iPod has no iCloud ability and I prefer it that way, but it also means that all the new information on my old iPod is now stuck in an isolated little box. If I had known about this new "feature", I would have never ever purchased a new suite of Apple technology. I am going to pass this complete and total failure by Apple at customer support to the IT people where I work. iCould is not an option there either. I expect this kind of abuse from Microsoft, which is why I stopped using Windows over a decade ago. I am going to have to find an option other than Apple at this rate. If I find a work around, I will pass it along.

Nov 2, 2013 7:37 PM in response to Gerrit7

APPLE HAS NO AUTHORITY TO TAKE AWAY THE FACILITIES PROVIDED BY.

APPLE CAN ONLY SUGGEST WHAT SYNC PROCEDURE IS BETTER.

LET USER DECIDE WHICH WAY TO SINC HIS IPHONE OR MAC OR ANY OTHER DEVICE OR SOFTWARE.

APPLE CAN'T TAKE THE RIGHT TO DECIDE FROM THE USER. LET APPLE GIVE THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS/CHOICES.


SOME ONR SHOULD SUE APPLE IN COURT.

Nov 2, 2013 8:19 PM in response to Gerrit7

I guess I will have to go back to the LION. This is scary and I gotta save all teh new stuff. How do I know what date I changed to lion, I am not sure when I did it, I did do it right when it came out, silly me, is there a way to tell when it was installed on my computer?



also, since I did it a week or two ago, is there an easy way to see what I put on my computer since then so I can back it up?

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