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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by fred242,

    fred242 fred242 Nov 14, 2013 9:09 AM in response to Barney-15E
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    Nov 14, 2013 9:09 AM in response to Barney-15E

    Baikal: thank you for documenting your efforts with this. I have had very limited success with osx server, which seems flakey and inconsistent but that may be my lack of experience with it. A more lightweight solution might well be better.  If I wanted to eliminate server and try Baikal do I need to remove server or is it sufficient to just turn it off? In all the pages of this thread and the new one, I do not recall reading ' I've done this and it works fine' ( and yes, iCloud is NOT an option), but maybe that's because your eyeballs start to bleed after a while and I missed the relevant post

  • by Matt Schultz,

    Matt Schultz Matt Schultz Nov 14, 2013 9:22 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 14, 2013 9:22 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Matt Schultz wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Now that you can't sync with a cable you will need an alternative, or you can go without sync. At this time there are no options that do not involve an online service.

    Not exactly. Apple has granted Windows the only non-cloud iPhone-to-host syncing service.

    This is the OS X Mavericks forum, try to keep (at least) to the same platform.

     

    If you want to use Windows do so, and then post in the Windows forum.

    These are the actions of Apple, not me. If you have a problem with that, please take it up with Apple. They are the Windows supporters, not me.

  • by ChrisW£,

    ChrisW£ ChrisW£ Nov 14, 2013 9:25 AM in response to fred242
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    Nov 14, 2013 9:25 AM in response to fred242

    I've done this and it works fine (mostly). See my previous post (if you can find it among all the spam).

     

    Installed OS X Server, synced Calendars, synced Contacts, over wifi on my internal network, not via any cloud or other on-line service. The (mostly) is because on my Macbook I have set syncs to occur every 5 minutes and on my iPhone every 15 minutes. These are the lowest values available on each for automatic sync. It seems to run on Microsoft time i.e. 15 minutes may be more or less than 15 minutes, but it does sync. This might be why you think yours is flaky. (A 'sync now' button would be useful).

     

    I have also synced my Macbook and iPhone Calendars and Contacts while at work on the internal wifi network there.

     

    Chris.

  • by ciu5781,

    ciu5781 ciu5781 Nov 14, 2013 9:30 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 14, 2013 9:30 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    ciu5781 wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    You are not forced to use iCloud

     

    You are not forced to use iCloud

     

    You are not forced to use iCloud

     

    You are not forced to use iCloud

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    At this time there are no options that do not involve an online service.

    Csound1 wrote:

    This is the OS X Mavericks forum, try to keep (at least) to the same platform.

    Are those posted by same person?? Is this guy suffering from something? He knew here is Mavericks forum and they forced to use iCloud for sync but he keeps saying we are not forced.

    You do realize that you make no sense at all, is English your 1st language?, if not please post in whatever is, at least we will have a chance of understanding it then.

    Haha nice troll. People have been forced to use cloud service to sync on mavericks, therefore they came to this thread. I'll watch over when you will stop 'apple isn't forcing people to use cloud service' campaign.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 14, 2013 9:53 AM in response to ciu5781
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    Nov 14, 2013 9:53 AM in response to ciu5781

    How are you 'forced' Is Apple holding your firstborn child hostage? Are there men with guns at the door.

     

    You are very easily forced it seems.

  • by 伊藤R,

    伊藤R 伊藤R Nov 14, 2013 10:00 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 14, 2013 10:00 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    How are you 'forced' Is Apple holding your firstborn child hostage? Are there men with guns at the door.

     

    You are very easily forced it seems.

    Apple actually forces their users to use a cloud service to sync data between Apple devices as it has secretetively removed the local sync feature. In other words: Use a cloud service (most preferably iCloud, of course) if you want to keep your contacts and calendars up to date. Or to put it in Apple's words:

     

    isync2.jpg

  • by James Richards,

    James Richards James Richards Nov 14, 2013 10:01 AM in response to ChrisW£
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    Nov 14, 2013 10:01 AM in response to ChrisW£

    If fred242 clicks on your username in your post it will take him through to your profile page which shows your recent posts, and he can easily access your earlier posts from there. (And thanks for your contributions. I may end up going down the OSX Server route, but I'm hoping for a free solution. I'm also hoping that Apple will respond to the feedback they are getting on their feedback pages (not here, as this is really a user to user forum), and provide an official fix.)

     

    James

  • by ChrisW£,

    ChrisW£ ChrisW£ Nov 14, 2013 10:35 AM in response to James Richards
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    Nov 14, 2013 10:35 AM in response to James Richards

    James, that's useful to know, thanks. This is the first forum I have taken part in and was unaware of that feature.

     

    @fred242 : I don't know how you remove OS X Server, quiting the app isn't enough because it only appears to be a management console for whichever server you have it log in to. Syncing still occurs without this app running so Server must be running in the background.

     

    Chris.

  • by WH,

    WH WH Nov 14, 2013 10:37 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 14, 2013 10:37 AM in response to Gerrit7

    Okay, there are some people insiting, that we shall use something different.

    But I reply, I only want to plug in a cable and press "snyc".

     

    I dont want anything  else.

     

    The only thing, what changes the world, are daily newspapers.

    In Germany, they wait on bad IT news.

    And, in Germany, secrecy is a discussion.

    Its still okay, when Apple releases a german version with local sync.

    Let the  innocents sync online.

    I do not.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 14, 2013 10:48 AM in response to 伊藤R
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    Nov 14, 2013 10:48 AM in response to 伊藤R

    Barney posted a working solution. Unfortunately yours and others childish and unhelpful rants are burrying  it

    Back in this thread. Or is it a little complicated for some? He laid out the instructions very clearly. I don't believe that people such as yourself are serious about fixing the issue you claim to have and instead would rather just make fools of yourselves with such immature postings.

     

    Pete

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 14, 2013 10:53 AM in response to fred242
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    Nov 14, 2013 10:53 AM in response to fred242

    fred242,

    Historically Mac OS X server was a separate build of OSX. It had custom versions of everything. Now it seems that Server.app simply adds extra controls to the tools that run the services (and installs some extra services).

     

    For example normal OS X & server versions of OS X have the Apache web server, but the OSX server version has more controls for running multiple sites, contacts and calendar server, Profile manager, Wiki server, different database backends etc.

     

    Personally if you are hoping to move from OS X server over to Baikal server I would reinstall OS X. otherwise you may find that OS X server services are using ports that Baikal server want to use. I suspect Baikal is also tested on the client version of OS X.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 14, 2013 11:07 AM in response to 伊藤R
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    Nov 14, 2013 11:07 AM in response to 伊藤R

    So you are easily forced as well. Can't you make a decision for yourself?

     

    Don't use iCloud if you don't like it, it's your choice, if you can't make your own choices Nobody here can help you.

  • by 伊藤R,

    伊藤R 伊藤R Nov 14, 2013 11:27 AM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 14, 2013 11:27 AM in response to petermac87

    It's people like you and the kilted Tim from Ohio who have posted the most childish and unproductive rants on this forum so far. But I accept that even creatures like you deserve the right to freely express their opinions.

     

    Apple however is different. It does not leave the user a choice on how to sync certain data between his devices.

    It does force Mavericks users to use a cloud service for this procedure and there's no way that you or any other of the self-appointed Apple advocates on this forum could ever deny it. Accept it.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 14, 2013 11:34 AM in response to 伊藤R
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    Nov 14, 2013 11:34 AM in response to 伊藤R

    Upgrading to Mavericks was your choice, doing so without checking that the services you require are available was your failure. Stop blaming others for your poor decision.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 14, 2013 11:40 AM in response to 伊藤R
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    Nov 14, 2013 11:40 AM in response to 伊藤R

    As I said, Barney posted a working fix. Try it.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

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