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  • kolovodjo Level 1 (0 points)

    True, but I just transferred my contacts without having to have put it into iCloud and i can move files in and out.  google calendar *****.  i used to use ACT! when i ran windows ( and parallel sucked later) so I just bought VIPorbit and am quite happy at the moment.

  • MackMackz Level 1 (0 points)

    I just wish to register my absolute disgust at the way Apple is treating their customers.


    Despite over 1000 posts, 72000 views and many, many people complaining via the feedback function there has been not a single comment from anyone offically associated with Apple.


    It really is truly astonishing and bitterly disapointing

  • Meg St._Clair Level 9 (50,906 points)

    MackMackz wrote:


    Despite over 1000 posts, 72000 views and many, many people complaining via the feedback function there has been not a single comment from anyone offically associated with Apple.

    Of course there's not. This is a user-to-user technical support forum. Apple's participation here is limited to enforcing the terms of use and using Community Specialists to answer a very limited number of questions that can easily be answered by referring the poster to a knowledge based article. Apple never makes official statements here, never responds to complaints here. This was explained in the Terms of Use to which we all agreed when we signed up.

  • petermac87 Level 5 (7,365 points)

    Apple never respond here, as explained by Meg. Apple respond in the release of updates. If it doesn't include what you personally want then it is most likely that they have dropped it from their OSX for good. This has always been the way of OS mutation in both Mac and Windows.





  • MackMackz Level 1 (0 points)

    Meg St._Clair and petermac87 thank you for your replies.


    I hear what yor saying but I do disagree. This change has put many people, especially those running businesses in a very difficult position. I personally have no wish to upload my contacts and calendars to a server I have control over just so I can sync two devices 3 feet from each other, a function I brought my devices based on being able to sync over cable.


    The fact that there has been no communication, in fact even no obvoius disclaimer that this function was going to be removed before upgrading is extremely poor service. While yes I do understand this forum is not read by Apple, as I previously mention in my earlier post many people including myself have messaged apple directly and still nothing.

  • petermac87 Level 5 (7,365 points)

    Apple do not respond here at all. It is simple. Doesn't matter how many posts are on here. They take feedback into account. I suppose if the majority of users complained then a return of some functions may be considered. But these forums are not a true representation of Mac user numbers, they are simply troubleshooting forums. As I say, Apple will respond to this issue one way or another in the form of an update.

    But that will not be until the update is ready for release.





  • KiltedTim Level 9 (50,335 points)

    As has already been stated multiple times, this feature of OS X was deprecated as of version 10.7. That was documented and published.


    If you run a business and don't want your information on a server you don't control, then set up your own server.


    If you're still not happy and you want local sync, then either downgrade to OS X 10.8 or go buy a smartphone that syncs contacts and calendars over USB... Oh... that's right... there aren't any any more.

  • brollyjohn Level 1 (0 points)

    You're not alone. A whole lot of users are not happy with the loss of the function.


    Meg St._Clair petermac87 KiltedTim


    Everyone knows this is a tech forum. It's also become the defacto sounding board for people who are not happy with the loss of local sync. You guys jumping on each new commenter brings more attention to each "whiners" complaint. You're actually bringing more attention to the issue. If you stuck to giving technical solutions as opposed to your current strategy, this board would be a whole lot more "technical".


    Setting up OSX server is an option. Or downgrading from Mavericks in order to keep your local sync.


    Echoes of Windows Vista. OSX user base fragmentation might be a good thing I guess.


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  • petermac87 Level 5 (7,365 points)

    There is no Technical OSX solution. Barney gave a working alternative some posts back. Do you expect us to rewrite Mavericks for Apple. Stop trying to make this thread 'exclusive'.



  • Marc Wilson Level 4 (1,045 points)

    My experience is, that iTunes never worked very well for me.


    But sync services in iTunes worked allways and everytime very well for me, syncing contacts.


    Pick one.  These are mutually exclusive.

  • Marc Wilson Level 4 (1,045 points)

    Long story short, my perception is that Apple is using contact lists from iCloud for advertising purposes.


    Right... they needed to implement all of iCloud and all the services that're attached to it just so that they could get to your contacts list for advertising purposes.


    Uh huh.


    Through what presentation medium, exactly?


    Paranoid, much?

  • Marc Wilson Level 4 (1,045 points)


    what exactly was wrong with SyncServices ?



    For every person who posts saying how nifty it worked for them, there's another whining about how contacts would vanish, calendar events would duplicate, notes that would mysteriously change, etc.


    Problems with the aging code base were so bad that third-parties such as Spanning Sync and Eltima were creating replacement engines to deal with how poorly it worked.  Spanning Sync even sold Spanning Tools, a collection of utilities to clean up the damage that SyncServices would do to people's data.


    For that matter, Eltima is claiming on their site that they're going to step up and fill the SyncServices void in the next version of SyncMate.

  • sdb2013 Level 1 (5 points)

    73 pages of dialog because a simple, normal function has been crippled to move people to a product. I realize it was my mistake to not have attempted to research every potential scenario (again) before purchasing my iPad Air last week, intending to tether it to my iMac with no cloud access... as was confirmed in pre-purchase conversation with an Apple store rep (prior to upgrading to Mavericks... I know, my ignorance). iTunes was the identified and acceptable path.


    I'm processing the downgrade back to Mountain Lion after learning that I will need to wipe my drive and reinstall, as Mavericks will leave orphan files. And yes, keep it respectful but the forum (monitored by Apple) is for users seeking solutions to problems.


    iCloud is not a solution, it's another product which doesn't serve my need. The issue is working/syncing non-cloud.


    Identified potential non- Cloud solutions/work arounds so far:


    1. Carefully back up personal files and content, wipe the drive, restall ML (and hope it's supported during the lifespan of my iPad), restoring the prior and needed functionality. It's not clear how any content may have been altered by Mavericks which may reveal issues after reverting to 10.8.


    2. Install OS X Server to sync locally. It sounds like a steep and time consuming path for a non-IT trained customer.


    3. Hope someone writes an app soon to work around this issue. I assume this wouldn't be made available in the App Store. I've already seen some, but they look dicey. Concerns with integrity and support, but issues like this do spark creativity. I'm open


    4. Move to another platform.


    I am seeking solutions, not philosophy and would be deeply grateful for any feedback on the solution. I'd like to begin using my new product as intended.


    Many users would be deeply grateful for feedback or support on resolving this. Thanks.

  • Csound1 Level 8 (46,972 points)

    MackMackz wrote:


    Meg St._Clair and petermac87 thank you for your replies.


    I hear what yor saying but I do disagree.

    Those replies state that Apple do not respond here, are you disagreeing with that?

  • DigiAngel Level 1 (40 points)

    The OS X Server method is actually pretty easy...I tested it out and it took all of 10 minutes once it was installed. the server app...turn on iCal and Contacts, point your devices and iCal and Contact apps to it.  That's really all there was too it.

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