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Nov 21, 2013 11:41 AM in response to Coastalsageby petermac87,Good luck with Android or Windows 8 and local sync!
Cheers
Pete
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Nov 21, 2013 12:54 PM in response to patrick.frby sdb2013,Patrick.fr. I've read your posts, you're like most that use this board. You, like us, are just trying to find a solution to something unexpected. This is a thread for non-Cloud solutions.
Just stay on topic and ignor what we in the states know as "spew", it's what we often do in a free speech environment, but it's seldom helpful. Most knowledgable users will help you. And yes, Apple employees do live on this board and it is a source of feedback to the mothership in Cupertino, which is why we speak here.
My new iPad Air has been sitting on my desk for 9 days now, as I wait for something other than wiping my drive for an OS downgrade, or installing Server for a basic function. I already have far too many lost hours on this.
I did confirm local sync with an Apple store rep prior to purchase while in the OS 10.8 environment, but didn't think to ask if such a basic and necessary function would be omitted in Mavericks. That's not a mistake. I'm not a programmer and must rely on the professionals.
I trust a reasonable solution will be offered by someone willing to fill the hole that Apple created here. I just hope it's this year. It would be nice to actually use my new product.
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Nov 21, 2013 1:03 PM in response to sdb2013by petermac87,sdb2013 wrote:
it's what we often do in a free speech environment, but it's seldom helpful. Most knowledgable users will help you. And yes, Apple employees do live on this board and it is a source of feedback to the mothership in Cupertino, which is why we speak here.
Very interesting. Can you back that up? And it is not 'Free' Speech. You agreed to certain rules when you agreed to the Terms Of Use here, which you must have done, or else you would not be posting here.
Looking forward to reading your evidence as to why you believe Apple to be 'living' on these Forums
Thanks
Pete
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Nov 21, 2013 1:37 PM in response to sdb2013by petermac87,Na, didn't think so. Thanks for the visit.
Pete
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Nov 21, 2013 2:34 PM in response to petermac87by DiederikStaay,Sorry to Pete and to the Apple moderators (are they the same?). Quite apparently Apple does read this thread as a post I just made was quickly removed. Good to know. We ARE in contact then :-) And not entirely free speech. But OK, we are getting used to it.
Now, back on topic then: How do we sync locally when iCloud is NOT and option? :-)
To sum up: we have Baïkal, MAMP and OSX Server. These require a bit of technical jumping up and down to get them working. A new App Syncmate 5 is in development and very close to completion. Is there anything else looming at the horizon? Especially the new apps seem to close in on the problem. Very promising indeed.
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Nov 21, 2013 2:52 PM in response to DiederikStaayby Csound1,DiederikStaay wrote:
Sorry to Pete and to the Apple moderators (are they the same?). Quite apparently Apple does read this thread as a post I just made was quickly removed.
Your post was reported to moderation by a user, or many users. The moderators agreed that the post violated the Terms of Use for the site (the ones you agreed to) and removed it.
You agreed to the terms, try to stick to them.
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Nov 21, 2013 2:53 PM in response to DiederikStaayby petermac87,DiederikStaay wrote:
Sorry to Pete and to the Apple moderators (are they the same?). Quite apparently Apple does read this thread as a post I just made was quickly removed. Good to know. We ARE in contact then :-) And not entirely free speech. But OK, we are getting used to it.
No, these Moderators are not from Apple. Sorry to dissapoint. Obviously you cannot contact them through these forums. I think the Feedback link may have already been posted.
Cheers
Pete
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Nov 21, 2013 2:58 PM in response to petermac87by DiederikStaay,Ha ha ha. So it IS you and you're not from Apple. Interesting. And yes, I may find the feedback link somewhere in the heap. Pity there isn't a feedback link for feedback on their moderators. Oh well, not surprising now, after all this.
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Nov 21, 2013 3:01 PM in response to DiederikStaayby petermac87,No, sorry, I am not a moderator. I didn't even see your post. Obviously other users reported it and it was removed. You need to listen to Csound1 and stay to the Terms Of Use. You agreed to them or you wouldn't be here.
Here is the feedback link.
Good Luck
FEEDBACK http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html
Pete
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Nov 21, 2013 3:02 PM in response to DiederikStaayby Livebox,Perhaps a timely opportunity to remind contributors that whilst there are a number of uncomfortable options that can be found in these forums, whatever option is chosen should not distract one from letting Apple know how they feel.
Concerned users should remember that this issue encompasses three areas, so feedback should be provided to Apple through the relevant channels for iPhone, iTunes and Mac OS X at:
http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html
http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html
http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html
Feedback to Apple should always be constructive, informative and non-abusive. They are an intelligent company and they are more likely to respond to intelligent argument than flame-filled demands.
Some people have spoken to their respective local and national media about this issue.
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Nov 21, 2013 3:54 PM in response to sdb2013by Csound1,it's what we often do in a free speech environment, but it's seldom helpful. Most knowledgable users will help you. And yes, Apple employees do live on this board and it is a source of feedback to the mothership in Cupertino, which is why we speak here.
There is no such thing as free speech here, it requires membership on Apples terms otherwise you can't post. Clearly everyone here gave their word when they agreed to the Terms of Use. Unfortunately some of them are reluctant to keep their word.
No surprise there though.
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Nov 21, 2013 4:14 PM in response to Csound1by handsOFFmydata,It's the second time sdb2013 is being misquoted. The entire sentence was:
Just stay on topic and ignore what we in the states know as "spew", it's what we often do in a free speech environment, but it's seldom helpful.
The meaning … it is not a complain about him being denied free speech but an acknowledgement that gives this right to even those who "spew" ... even if they intentionally misquote.
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Nov 21, 2013 4:23 PM in response to handsOFFmydataby petermac87,handsOFFmydata wrote:
It's the second time sdb2013 is being misquoted. The entire sentence was:
Just stay on topic and ignore what we in the states know as "spew", it's what we often do in a free speech environment, but it's seldom helpful.
The meaning … it is not a complain about him being denied free speech but an acknowledgement that gives this right to even those who "spew" ... even if they intentionally misquote.
No it isn't. That is just you misinterpreting again.
Cheers
Pete
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Nov 21, 2013 5:13 PM in response to petermac87by sdb2013,Whoa folks. Time out.
Let me clarify my own comments, and then let's all just move back to the topic.
The user I was replying to is obviously out of the US. If it helps anyone, I'll restate. It's perfectly acceptable to offer opinions, particularly on a site sponsored by the vendor that sold us a product. No need to get personal, but that's what often happens on these boards. If I've contributed to that, my apologies. We good here? OK.
Now, this topic is all over the web. It's particiularly relevent to EU based users, but also to anyone who doesn't want to utilize a product that wasn't clearly identified as no longer serving an existing use, or working in the field between iDevice and laptop. Many professionals are referring to this issue from the same position. It's a reasonable and necessary conversation. And yes, Apple engineers are often the source of the help here. I know, I lived in Sunnyvale and Cupertino for over 40 years. I've known many of them.
At any rate, feedback has been given, bug report has been filed (although it's not a bug), posting is happening on other sites, and users are looking for an option other than wiping their hard drives to downgrade the OS , or creating a server which, from my several hours on a new topic, does not seem so simple.. I'm not IT, that's why I use Mac products (since 1989).
And it is Apple's responcibility to moderate their own board. This topic is active on other threads here as well. If someone wants to help, do so. Let's keep it positive, helpful and move on. Yes?
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Nov 21, 2013 5:21 PM in response to sdb2013by petermac87,sdb2013 wrote:
And it is Apple's responcibility to moderate their own board. This topic is active on other threads here as well. If someone wants to help, do so. Let's keep it positive, helpful and move on. Yes?
Wrong again. Sorry.
Pete