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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by Ryks,

    Ryks Ryks Nov 24, 2013 12:14 PM in response to Marc Wilson
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:14 PM in response to Marc Wilson

    Marc wrote,

    "Apple does not have to perpetually provide

    some facility you want, any more than you have to use any or all facilities Apple provides."

     

    Marc, please, we are not syncing our iDevices just for the fun of it. We are doing it in case of data loss or in case the iDevice goes wrong and needs to be re-initialised, repaired, or eventually changed.

    The possibility of Keeping your data safe at home is not a facility, it is not an element of confort, it is not a luxury, it is a perfectly normal and logical right.

    Imagine if you had a paper agenda, and you would have to go to some kind of bank to keep it in a safe to which some employees would have the key and could look at it anytime they wanted.

    Would you like that?

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Nov 24, 2013 12:17 PM in response to Ryks
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:17 PM in response to Ryks

    Ryks wrote:

     

    The possibility of Keeping your data safe at home is not a facility, it is not an element of confort, it is not a luxury, it is a perfectly normal and logical right.

    Nothing is stopping you from doing that at all. Apple just doesn't provide that method. There are several solutions to your complaint, and I previously posted a step-by-step way to make it work, completely free, if you choose.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 24, 2013 12:18 PM in response to Ryks
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:18 PM in response to Ryks

    Ryks wrote:

     

    Marc wrote,

    "Apple does not have to perpetually provide

    some facility you want, any more than you have to use any or all facilities Apple provides."

     

     

    Another who agrees with Marc. Ryks, if you don't like what you read in the Terms of a product, then simply don't use it. There are other players in the market you can plead your case to.

     

    Pete

  • by lclcv,

    lclcv lclcv Nov 24, 2013 12:35 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:35 PM in response to petermac87

    All this talk of privacy is fine but there are other issues.

     

    My point in losing the ability to sync by cable is that not everyone works in an environment where there is broadband or internet access all the time. If you have unreliable, intermittent or no access to internet then you need to sync by cable.

     

    I live and do my job in Australia but I work for international organisations. Sometimes I'm in an area of this country that is far too remote for internet to be totally reliable. Sure I can use 3G or 4G hotspots but if I only want to sync my contacts I don't really want to use up my data quota. I just want to get my laptop in line with my phone or iPad. Since Mavericks I'm manually typing in each device and that is truly silly!

     

     

    I can only imagine what it's like in countries with lesser telecommunications than here.

  • by DigiAngel,

    DigiAngel DigiAngel Nov 24, 2013 12:39 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:39 PM in response to Chris CA

    Chris I would LOVE to believe that...but I can't   Apple's wording is vague enough that it could apply anywhere.  From the privacy page:

     

    "Here are some examples of the types of personal information Apple may collect and how we may use it."

     

    Which means it's not a conclusive list of a) what Apple collects, and b) how it's used.  I've spent a good couple hours looking and I've not found anything that says otherwise.  Is anyone aware of any documentation to the contrary?  In any case I've contacted Apple via that contact us on the privacy page asking.  Maybe I'll get a response.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 24, 2013 12:39 PM in response to lclcv
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:39 PM in response to lclcv

    If it is too remote for internet it must be time consuming to go back to.the office in order to sync?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 24, 2013 12:41 PM in response to DigiAngel
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:41 PM in response to DigiAngel

    Where are the examples of types of information that Apple may collect, your post omits that part.

  • by lclcv,

    lclcv lclcv Nov 24, 2013 12:48 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:48 PM in response to Csound1

    My office is often my car so travel times to office don't count. It was just so easy and now it's so difficult and time consuming and easy to make errors.

     

    The other thing I've had complaints about is from people who have internet plans with small download and upload quotas. They hate using it up for syncing. Many of the places I visit also use the internet for schooling which takes vast quotas. They are not happy about having to use up quotas for daily admin tasks like syncing.

  • by DigiAngel,

    DigiAngel DigiAngel Nov 24, 2013 12:51 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:51 PM in response to Csound1

    Ah...I won't muddle the thread with it a copy/paste   Those are all at:http://www.apple.com/privacy

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 24, 2013 12:55 PM in response to lclcv
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:55 PM in response to lclcv

    There is no syncing and very little bandwidth is required to read a remote calendar/contact file.

     

    I have similar uses, I am often offline, but using iCloud I have a better chance of having up to date info (from the last time I had internet) than if I had to go back to the office every time.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 24, 2013 12:57 PM in response to DigiAngel
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    Nov 24, 2013 12:57 PM in response to DigiAngel

    All that says is that Apple use your data internally, where can I see what they supply to others?

  • by DigiAngel,

    DigiAngel DigiAngel Nov 24, 2013 1:01 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 24, 2013 1:01 PM in response to Csound1

    Says at the top of the page:

     

    You may be asked to provide your personal information anytime you are in contact with Apple or an Apple affiliated company.  Apple and its affiliates may share this personal information with each other and use it consistent with this Privacy Policy. They may also combine it with other information to provide and improve our products, services, content, and advertising.

     

    I have no idea who the affiliates are.  I can at least guess that Aikamai is one as most of my downloads really end up coming from their servers.  No clue though

  • by Ryks,

    Ryks Ryks Nov 24, 2013 1:14 PM in response to Barney-15E
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    Nov 24, 2013 1:14 PM in response to Barney-15E

    Dear Barney

    Thanks for this solution,

    unfortunately, I'm not ashamed to say that it requires computer Skills that I'm far from having. It is not, that, simple to people who are not computer experts as you obviously are.

    And you will have to agree that Local syncing is much harder than it was

    Before mavericks

     

    Best regards

  • by sdb2013,

    sdb2013 sdb2013 Nov 24, 2013 1:21 PM in response to lclcv
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    Nov 24, 2013 1:21 PM in response to lclcv

    I work for a federally and state funded community services agency in the states as a social worker. I'm strictly prohibited by federal law (HIPPA) and agency regulation from allowing my notes or any client information, which includes calendar and contact information, to be accessed in any form by any outside party, which includes commerical cloud storage, without a court order (no NSA conversation please. Appropriate and necessary dialog, wrong forum).

     

    It is standard process in my field to work after hours to complete our work. The path is locally between desktop and peripheral device... or was. Now that any kind of convenient local sync has been crippled, this workflow path is gone.

     

    And no, I have no personal desire or use for cloud based services. The Apple store opened an iCloud account when they set up my Apple ID, which I wasn't aware of.  Fortunately, I was notified by e-mail and deleted it.

     

    My new iPad Air is useless in the current OS environment. To Apple's credit and my benefit, they have a 14 day return policy so the iPad gets returned tomorrow, as users on this board have shown that there is no pending potential path from the vendor to resolve this... no help to embedded users.

     

    Welcome to the world of corporate mediated computing, nothing unique to Apple. We have choices, just no voice in what they are.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 24, 2013 1:24 PM in response to sdb2013
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    Nov 24, 2013 1:24 PM in response to sdb2013

    Yup, iCloud is not HIPPA compliant, neither are most of the competing services.

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