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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by marcus_z,

    marcus_z marcus_z Nov 28, 2013 8:41 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 28, 2013 8:41 AM in response to KiltedTim

    (i hope i did not violate any TOS, and i was steering away from that subject.

    also i do not know their policy descisions.)

  • by ladhsfopwen,

    ladhsfopwen ladhsfopwen Nov 28, 2013 8:44 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 28, 2013 8:44 AM in response to KiltedTim

    Most people don't have time to read all these TOS's and it since there's always a line in them saying that "these TOS's can be changed at any moment without notice" I don't really see the point why you should...

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 8:49 AM in response to ladhsfopwen
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    Nov 28, 2013 8:49 AM in response to ladhsfopwen

    Because you agreed to them, how can you agree when you don't know what they are?

     

    This is not a complex issue, obey the rules or don't post.

  • by ladhsfopwen,

    ladhsfopwen ladhsfopwen Nov 28, 2013 8:57 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 28, 2013 8:57 AM in response to Csound1

    Well since they can be changed at any time without notice it is impossible to obey them, that's why.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Nov 28, 2013 8:58 AM in response to ladhsfopwen
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    Nov 28, 2013 8:58 AM in response to ladhsfopwen

    ladhsfopwen wrote:

     

    Most people don't have time to read all these TOS's and it since there's always a line in them saying that "these TOS's can be changed at any moment without notice" I don't really see the point why you should...

    "Officer, I didn't know it was illegal to make a right turn on red in this state so you can't ticket me!"

  • by WH,

    WH WH Nov 28, 2013 9:07 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 28, 2013 9:07 AM in response to Gerrit7

    Ähem KiltedTim and CSoumd and some others, why are YOU here?
    You are talking so much about TOS...

    Doing the police here, is against the TOS, too, I imagine.

     

    The people here already know, that there is no option for a lost service.

    Say, not an acceptable option for the most of us.

    The people here are Apple customers, are paying for  the devices, and are really afraid of the IT future in general and about Apples moves.

     

    By the way:

    It is not "your" nor "my" private data.

    It is data of your friends, of your family, of your customers, of your work etc.

     

    Are you sure, that all of them are satisfied,  that YOU provide THEIR data in cloud systems?

  • by ladhsfopwen,

    ladhsfopwen ladhsfopwen Nov 28, 2013 9:09 AM in response to IdrisSeabright
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    Nov 28, 2013 9:09 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

    That's too simple, read my full reply, not just the points you like.

     

    When the TOS, or any other set of rules for that matter, can be changed at any moment, without notice (prior of after) it is impossible to obey them. It's as simple as that.

     

    (And can we now return to the subject please?)

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 9:09 AM in response to WH
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    Nov 28, 2013 9:09 AM in response to WH

    "Ähem KiltedTim and CSoumd and some others, why are YOU here?"

     

     

     

    Why I am here is none of your business. Who do you think you are?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 9:14 AM in response to ladhsfopwen
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    Nov 28, 2013 9:14 AM in response to ladhsfopwen

    The subject is how to sync an iPhone without using iCloud.

     

    The answer is that there is currently no method in Mavericks, which part of that is difficult for you to understand?

  • by marcus_z,

    marcus_z marcus_z Nov 28, 2013 9:53 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 28, 2013 9:53 AM in response to Csound1

    Well Csound and Co, you are not helpful or making this discussion forum a friendly place to discuss at.

     

    You are helping the hit-count of this thread, which could draw apple’s attention to the subject.

    and for that i thank you.

  • by James Richards,

    James Richards James Richards Nov 28, 2013 9:57 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 28, 2013 9:57 AM in response to Csound1

    It *is* possible to sync without using iCloud (or any other cloud based service). It is not possible to sync via USB. It is possible to sync either directly between machines, or on your own home network without accessing the internet at all and it can be done for free. In order to sync you need a CardDAV and a CalDAV server. These can be set up on your son desktop or laptop using Apache which is included with Mavericks and Baïkal server which is free and open source. It is do-able by someone who is not especially network savvy, nor particularly familiar with terminal. Barney-15E has given the instructions in a tutorial linked above, and I have recently posted a detailed account of my own successful attempt to get this set up. It hasn't solved all my problems, but it has answered the question in the OP - How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option. I still hope Apple will make local USB Sync possible again, but in the meantime I have the means to sync iPhone and Mavericks without charge and without the data leaving my own home. I hope this solution will be a practical workaround for many of those who have privacy/data protection issues with iCloud or other cloud-based solutions.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 10:00 AM in response to marcus_z
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    Nov 28, 2013 10:00 AM in response to marcus_z

    marcus_z wrote:

     

    Well Csound and Co, you are not helpful or making this discussion forum a friendly place to discuss at

    This is a tech support site, not a discussion site.

     

    You are helping the hit-count of this thread, which could draw apple’s attention to the subject.

    and for that i thank you.

    If you want to "draw apple's attention to the subject' why don't you use the correct method.

     

    Post Here

  • by marcus_z,

    marcus_z marcus_z Nov 28, 2013 10:18 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 28, 2013 10:18 AM in response to Csound1

    "This is a tech support site, not a discussion site."
    read the url in top of your favorite browser.

     

    "....why don't you use the correct method."

    well, if you read my earlier post instead of trolling, you would have known, that it has already been done.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 10:23 AM in response to marcus_z
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    Nov 28, 2013 10:23 AM in response to marcus_z

    The Header says

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    well, if you read my earlier post instead of trolling, you would have known, that it has already been done.

    Good for you, do you really need to keep repeating it here, or do you just need some sympathy.

  • by ladhsfopwen,

    ladhsfopwen ladhsfopwen Nov 28, 2013 10:33 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 28, 2013 10:33 AM in response to Csound1

    Well we're in: "Apple Support Communities > Mac OS & System Software > OS X Mavericks >   Discussions" at the moment. It ends with discussions, like marcus implied.

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