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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 10:31 AM in response to ladhsfopwen
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    Nov 28, 2013 10:31 AM in response to ladhsfopwen

    Correct, you are in the Support Community, not the Therapy, Sympathy, Empathy or plain old Whining Community

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 28, 2013 12:24 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 28, 2013 12:24 PM in response to Csound1

    What were we talking about again?

     

    Oh yeah.

     

    The subject is how to sync an iPhone without using iCloud.

     

    The answer is that there is currently no method in Mavericks, which part of that is difficult for you to understand?

     

    Thanks Csound1. Someone left the door open and I got lost in all the irrelevant rants. But I wonder if they will even see your post. It appears that many of them do not know how to use or what a troubleshooting forum is for.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by veda1,

    veda1 veda1 Nov 28, 2013 12:38 PM in response to Barney-15E
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    Nov 28, 2013 12:38 PM in response to Barney-15E

    Hi Barney,

     

    I followed your instruction for setting up Baïkal. It was going fine up to starting the server. Here are my last steps:

     

    In Terminal:

    xxxx:~ admin$ apachectl configtest

    Warning: DocumentRoot [/usr/docs/dummy-host.example.com] does not exist

    Warning: DocumentRoot [/usr/docs/dummy-host2.example.com] does not exist

    [Thu Nov 28 14:51:31 2013] [warn]

    Syntax OK

    xxxx:~ admin$ sudo apachectl start

    xxxx:~ admin$

     

    Your instruction:

    Your server should now be running. Go to your browser and enter this address: https://localhost:8443

    In Web browser:

    exception 'Exception' with message 'Specific/ dir is readonly. Baïkal Admin requires write permissions on this dir.' in /Library/WebServer/Documents/dav.baikal-server/Core/Frameworks/BaikalAdmin/Cont roller/Install/Initialize.php:38

    Stack trace:

    #0 /Library/WebServer/Documents/dav.baikal-server/Core/Frameworks/Flake/Core/Rende r/Container.php(62): BaikalAdmin\Controller\Install\Initialize->execute()

    #1 /Library/WebServer/Documents/dav.baikal-server/Core/Frameworks/Flake/Controller /Page.php(79): Flake\Core\Render\Container->execute()

    #2 /Library/WebServer/Documents/dav.baikal-server/Core/Frameworks/BaikalAdmin/WWWR oot/install/index.php(77): Flake\Controller\Page->render()

    #3 {main}

     

    I tried to change some files/folders permissions without really knowing what I was doing. This was all done in an admin account. I usually use my Mac with a standard account. When I logged back into the standard account I got the following message when trying https://localhost:8443:

     

    Baïkal Install Tool is locked.

    To unlock it, create (or re-create if it exists already) an empty file named ENABLE_INSTALL (uppercase, no file extension) in the Specific/ folder of Baïkal.

     

    Do you see something obvious here? Thanks

  • by veda1,

    veda1 veda1 Nov 28, 2013 12:59 PM in response to veda1
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    Nov 28, 2013 12:59 PM in response to veda1

    I forgot to mention that I am still running Mountain Lion. Does it make a difference?

  • by James Richards,

    James Richards James Richards Nov 28, 2013 2:59 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 28, 2013 2:59 PM in response to petermac87

    I just wanted to stress again that it *is* possible to sync without using iCloud, or any other cloud-based service. See Barney-15E's tutorial linked above, and my earlier post. You do need to set up CalDAV and CardDAV servers on your own computer, but this *is* do-able. Once done you can then wifi sync entirely within your home network or directly from machine to machine, without your calendars or contacts going out onto the Internet at all. Sorry for the repetition, but since this *does* answer the OP, I am keen to raise its profile and improve the signal to noise ratio on this thread. James

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 28, 2013 3:07 PM in response to James Richards
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    Nov 28, 2013 3:07 PM in response to James Richards

    James Richards wrote:

     

    I just wanted to stress again that it *is* possible to sync without using iCloud, or any other cloud-based service. See Barney-15E's tutorial linked above, and my earlier post. You do need to set up CalDAV and CardDAV servers on your own computer, but this *is* do-able. Once done you can then wifi sync entirely within your home network or directly from machine to machine, without your calendars or contacts going out onto the Internet at all. Sorry for the repetition, but since this *does* answer the OP, I am keen to raise its profile and improve the signal to noise ratio on this thread. James

     

     

    As has been noticed. I have also posted the link to Barneys post in the User Tips section. Currently in Mavericks there is NOT an option to do this. You need to install third party software to do it.

     

    The subject is how to sync an iPhone without using iCloud.

     

    The answer is that there is currently no method in Mavericks

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6311

     

    There s a workaround there.

     

    You really should provide links if you are going to bother replying.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by James Richards,

    James Richards James Richards Nov 28, 2013 3:20 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 28, 2013 3:20 PM in response to petermac87

    At the risk of getting nitpicky, both you, I believe, and others have pointed out that iCloud is not required for syncing as other cloud-based solutions are available. But it is also possible to sync locally by setting up your own equivalent of a cloud based solution, and to continue to run Mavericks. Thus within Mavericks it is possible to sync without using Apple's proprietary iCloud or any other cloud-based solution. You're right that it needs third party software, but I didn't read the OP as precluding that, and the third party software required is a free open source package.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 28, 2013 3:46 PM in response to James Richards
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    Nov 28, 2013 3:46 PM in response to James Richards

    Yes believe what makes you happy. I will lose no sleep over you decision or interpretations.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by SwankPeRFection,

    SwankPeRFection SwankPeRFection Nov 28, 2013 4:11 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:11 PM in response to Chris CA

    Chris CA wrote:

     

    How so?

    Your informarion is not being accesed by Apple nor shared with anyone.

    Any chance you use gmail? Because that IS being accessed by Google.

     

     

    Ahh, yes, because Apple told you they don't look at your data or don't share it and you belief them but when another company says the same thing, you don't belief them.  Tell you what the rest of us think.  WE DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE!  That way there's no mistakes made and we don't live under a false sense of security that a large corporation has OUR best intentions at heart.

     

    There are things I am aware of (and they're not even super important or neferious) that I haven't shared with immediate family members yet you think we should be stupid enough to share such things with strangers?  Somehow that doesn't make any sense to me....

     

     

    At one point in time Apple stood for "Freedom of the user to do what the user wants in the best way possible."  Since Steve's death, Apple has changed this to restrict the user into doing what they think is best.  I don't agree with this and if Steve was still alive, he'd cussing someone out at the office and/or firing them for such thinking.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 28, 2013 4:15 PM in response to SwankPeRFection
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:15 PM in response to SwankPeRFection

    SwankPeRFection wrote:

     

    Chris CA wrote:

     

    How so?

    Your informarion is not being accesed by Apple nor shared with anyone.

    Any chance you use gmail? Because that IS being accessed by Google.

     

     

      Tell you what the rest of us think.  WE DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE! 

    No, that is you. I don't see that statement from the 320 million+ iCloud users. I think your posts being deleted so far should tell you to give up answering with unfounded content and ......other things.

     

    Pete

  • by SwankPeRFection,

    SwankPeRFection SwankPeRFection Nov 28, 2013 4:21 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:21 PM in response to petermac87

    No, I think my posts being deleted is being done to keep things hidden.  It's funny how the filters will astric out anything being typed that's not verbally allowed, yet posts are still being deleted because they depict Apple as being in violation of certain guidelines and rules when it comes to business ethics and laws.  No problem, I'll just edit out the inappropriate words and repost them.  There's nothing else in them that's in violation of the TOC unless the TOC blatantly states that you cannot critisize Apple for bad business decisions.  Too bad that's in violation of Free Speech too and since these servers are in CA, USA, they MUST follow Constitutional guildelines.

     

    Also, Pete, you can stop deleting them since I you seem to be the one reading them quickly and deleting them.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 28, 2013 4:26 PM in response to SwankPeRFection
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:26 PM in response to SwankPeRFection

    Your posts are being deleted because you are repeatedly violating the TOS. They explicitly state that discussions of Apple policies and policy decisions are forbidden.

     

    The First Amendment to the Constitution does not apply to privately operated forums. They apply to the press and regard political speech. Go back to school. You aparently failed 3rd grade social studies.

     

    ONLY the Apple moderators have the power to delete your posts. When that happens, you get an email explaining why. I suggest you read them.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 28, 2013 4:28 PM in response to SwankPeRFection
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:28 PM in response to SwankPeRFection

    I cannot delete them S wank perfection. Just report them for threats of violence. And the many other TOU lines you agreed to yet constantly ignore. That is the simple reason they would have been removed. Unfortunately for you, people read your baseless and abusive rantings often before the moderators remove them. If you had anything constructive to say on this topic, I believe you have had your chance, now please stick to the topic or start your own thread.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by SwankPeRFection,

    SwankPeRFection SwankPeRFection Nov 28, 2013 4:28 PM in response to James Richards
    Level 4 (1,435 points)
    Nov 28, 2013 4:28 PM in response to James Richards

    James Richards wrote:

     

    At the risk of getting nitpicky, both you, I believe, and others have pointed out that iCloud is not required for syncing as other cloud-based solutions are available. But it is also possible to sync locally by setting up your own equivalent of a cloud based solution, and to continue to run Mavericks. Thus within Mavericks it is possible to sync without using Apple's proprietary iCloud or any other cloud-based solution. You're right that it needs third party software, but I didn't read the OP as precluding that, and the third party software required is a free open source package.

     

    The problem James is that the people on here that don't see this as a problem are pushing Apple's way of doing things.  Regardless of what solution you use, you're still stuck with a server based type solution, be it a LAN localized one or a 3rd party hosted one.  You still cannot do a physical cable based sync and THIS is what people want.

     

    Also, Apple's server OS product isn't free, so that may pose a problem for some that now they have to spend money to make something work that worked just fine before.  Apple also made a mistake by not dislosing this change as part of the OSX Mavericks install documentaion... anywhere...  It was added later once they got a ton of calls about it and it's still not easy to find and in the right places.

  • by SwankPeRFection,

    SwankPeRFection SwankPeRFection Nov 28, 2013 4:32 PM in response to KiltedTim
    Level 4 (1,435 points)
    Nov 28, 2013 4:32 PM in response to KiltedTim

    These aren't privately operated forums.  They're on Apple's servers and Apple is a publicly traded company.  Also, the post mentioned how Apple is braking business laws by restricting syncing to 3r party apps from their competitiors... and poof... it gets deleted.  Why?  Simple, should a lawsuit happen, they don't want the posts as a record of what was writted by someone.  Simple as that and nothing more.

     

    Also, the emails DO NOT contain the specifics of the deletion.  It's a quick delete of the post being made by people trying to keep this quiet and in the dark.  It's comical you think otherwise.

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