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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by SwankPeRFection,

    SwankPeRFection SwankPeRFection Nov 28, 2013 4:35 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:35 PM in response to petermac87

    Threat of violence?  That's a good one... how you can construe that from me stating that Apple is restricting their users from being able to use 3rd party apps within their closed environment is an act of violence is beyond me.  Maybe I should report your posts for defamation of character towards me...  You think the mods working on Thanksgiving will delete your posts because of that?  I doubt it.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 28, 2013 4:37 PM in response to SwankPeRFection
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:37 PM in response to SwankPeRFection

    SwankPeRFection wrote:

     

    Also, the post mentioned how Apple is braking business laws by restricting syncing to 3r party apps from their competitiors... and poof... it gets deleted.  Why? 

     

     

    May have been a reference to how you would protect your data?

     

    Whatever, it broke the Terms Of Use you agreed to as you keep getting told. If you do not wish to abide by them, you are welcome to leave before the moderators tire of deleting your comments and make the decision for you.

     

     

    Cheers

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 28, 2013 4:38 PM in response to SwankPeRFection
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:38 PM in response to SwankPeRFection

    As I said. You apparently need to go back to school. You don't know the first thing about the Constitution or how it relates to private companies.

     

    You also have no idea what "publicly traded" means or how it relates to anything at all.

     

    We won't even get into your paranoia.

     

    It's sad really. Your ignorance is easily correctable, but you you're too thick headed for that to happen.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 28, 2013 4:53 PM in response to SwankPeRFection
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:53 PM in response to SwankPeRFection

    SwankPeRFection wrote:

     

    Threat of violence?  That's a good one... how you can construe that from me stating that Apple is restricting their users from being able to use 3rd party apps within their closed environment is an act of violence is beyond me. 

    I reported that post. It was deleted on those grounds and will still be on record.

  • by SwankPeRFection,

    SwankPeRFection SwankPeRFection Nov 28, 2013 4:51 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:51 PM in response to petermac87

    Well, let's see if this version gets deleted...  I think it's pretty clean.

     

     

    Pete, Compromising the data at a local level requires physical possesion of the device or a backdoor hack of remote access into the device holding said data.  So, unless someone takes control of your device, it's not going to happen... certainly not as easily as it can when it's hosted.  Point being, we want local sync because it was convenient for other means other than just keep data off the web/hosted servers.  I have a local email account that's pop with an ISP.  I have that account set up in Outlook to get my email and in that same account I have a personal address book that I have all the same contacts in that I keep on my phone (as a backup let's say).  With Apple's iCloud setup, THERE IS NO WAY TO SYNC THIS DATA FROM MY PHONE TO Outlook.  It just can't be done.  Sync services is what Outlook used to sync the info from the Apple Contacts app to itself.  iTunes was used to sync the phone to the Contacts app and Sync Services was used to sync the info over to Outlook to the right folder.  Now that Sync Services has been removed, not only does iTunes no longer have the local sync capabilities, but they've also restricted 3rd party apps from having this same sync ability (depending on what type of account you have).  This can be considered an Antitrust violation by Apple since they are by design/change restricting a competitor's app from having the same level of access as their own app. The only way you're ever going to have proper wireless sync of your contacts on your iOS device and your Mac to a 3rd party app such as Outlook is to use an account that's ActiveSync capable.  Without that, you're left standing in the dark.  iCloud won't do squat because that only syncs to Apple apps on the Mac, something I don't feel like using because honestly, all three (Mail/Contacts/Calendar) are subpar compared to Outlook.  I use Outlook for personal and for work puposes.  My work contacts sync just fine that way because my work server is ActiveSync capable and so are my iOS devices and the Outlook version on the Mac, but I don't want to intermingle my work contacts with my personal ones... hence, I'm left standing in the dark as far as Apple in concerned and they're just fine with that, even though it's breaking Antitrust guidelines.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 28, 2013 4:53 PM in response to SwankPeRFection
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:53 PM in response to SwankPeRFection

    SwankPeRFection wrote:

     

    This can be considered an Antitrust violation by Apple since they are by design/change restricting a competitor's app from having the same level of access as their own app.

    You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Just stop before you make a bigger fool out of yourself.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 28, 2013 4:57 PM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:57 PM in response to KiltedTim

    S wank is trying to talk his way out of the hole he dug himself into, but the shovel is too small. Ignore him and hopefully he will go away or make another stupid comment or threat, as before, and be removed permanently.

     

    Pete

  • by SwankPeRFection,

    SwankPeRFection SwankPeRFection Nov 28, 2013 4:58 PM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 28, 2013 4:58 PM in response to KiltedTim

    Well, I could use Outlook with their product in the previous version of the OS, now I cannot.  They've inherently restricted it.  You tell me what it is then... because I haven't seen a redesign of the OS from Apple or a redesign of the app from Microsoft to allow me to have said functionality back.  When I had the capability before and now it's restricted by two competing companies, what would you call it?  Hummm?  Do educate us all... everyone would like to know the true answer please.  Make sure it's not just a personal viewpoint tho... because apparently we're not allowed to have those here.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 28, 2013 5:07 PM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 28, 2013 5:07 PM in response to KiltedTim

    KiltedTim wrote:

     

    SwankPeRFection wrote:

     

    This can be considered an Antitrust violation by Apple since they are by design/change restricting a competitor's app from having the same level of access as their own app.

    You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. Just stop before you make a bigger fool out of yourself.

    Hi Tim. Have you ever read such nonsense? +1 for your reply.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 28, 2013 5:10 PM in response to SwankPeRFection
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    Nov 28, 2013 5:10 PM in response to SwankPeRFection

    Sync services was deprecated in OS X 10.7. Developers were notified of the change, INCLUDING MICROSOFT. Microsoft chose not to update Outlook to compensate for the removal of that feature.

     

    Outlook 2011 does not support CardDAV or CalDAV. That's on Microsoft, not Apple. If you want those features in Outlook, you will have to upgrade to Office365 and pay Microsoft.

     

    You may want to read this article: http://www.officeformachelp.com/2013/08/confused-over-what-syncs-in-outlook-2011 /

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 5:12 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 28, 2013 5:12 PM in response to petermac87

    Did someone the thermostat up in here?

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 28, 2013 5:14 PM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 28, 2013 5:14 PM in response to Csound1

    Just. Someone set it to 'Swank'.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 28, 2013 5:16 PM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 28, 2013 5:16 PM in response to petermac87

    Phew,

  • by SwankPeRFection,

    SwankPeRFection SwankPeRFection Nov 28, 2013 5:57 PM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 28, 2013 5:57 PM in response to KiltedTim

    While I appreciate your link on this matter, what remains is that Apple is continuing to allow local wired sync on Windows systems via iTunes while restricting it on the OSX platform.  This basically spells an issue with their products that causes issues for non-Windows users because now their iOS products requires an Internet connection in order to be used for contacts sync.  What should a consumer that buys a WIFI only iOS device do if they cannot afford the service or hardware at home or anywhere else required for wireless hosted syncing?  Is Apple discriminating against such individuals then?

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 28, 2013 6:12 PM in response to SwankPeRFection
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    Nov 28, 2013 6:12 PM in response to SwankPeRFection

    You've crossed the line into trolldom. Go away.

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