Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

Yes, I recognize that this is not a solution for those who want cable based syncing, it is only a second best workround for them (as it is also for me). But it doesn't require anyone to buy OS X Mavericks Server. It uses components that are either part of the standard Mavericks OS or which are free to download and use.

James Richards wrote:

 

I just wanted to stress again that it *is* possible to sync without using iCloud, or any other cloud-based service. See Barney-15E's tutorial linked above, and my earlier post. You do need to set up CalDAV and CardDAV servers on your own computer, but this *is* do-able. Once done you can then wifi sync entirely within your home network or directly from machine to machine, without your calendars or contacts going out onto the Internet at all. Sorry for the repetition, but since this *does* answer the OP, I am keen to raise its profile and improve the signal to noise ratio on this thread. James

The additional issue is that the info cannot be sync'd to MS Outlook.  Also, errors would happen when you travel outside of your home network and even worse, when on someone else's network, your sync traffic would try and hit a server that's not there, inherently throwing traffic around (secured or not) which can be sniffed, etc.

For lack of a better example, the capability we had with iTunes USB syncing can be characterized with having the same physical layer of security that plugging into an ethernet cable had.  (Yes, the underlying network must be secure, but the user controlled the physical binding and the actual sync trigger since you could set it to manual and not automatic.)  With the new way, you kinda don't have this ability anymore... even if you run the local servers, the sync process is automated and will trigger anytime you're on a network connection whenther the server is there or not... the iOS device won't know a different locations WLAN is not the same as your home WLAN.

Hope this makes sense and shows even more how badly thought out this change was on Apple's part.

SwankPeRFection wrote:

 

The additional issue is that the info cannot be sync'd to MS Outlook.  Also, errors would happen when you travel outside of your home network and even worse, when on someone else's network, your sync traffic would try and hit a server that's not there, inherently throwing traffic around (secured or not) which can be sniffed, etc.

 

For lack of a better example, the capability we had with iTunes USB syncing can be characterized with having the same physical layer of security that plugging into an ethernet cable had.  (Yes, the underlying network must be secure, but the user controlled the physical binding and the actual sync trigger since you could set it to manual and not automatic.)  With the new way, you kinda don't have this ability anymore... even if you run the local servers, the sync process is automated and will trigger anytime you're on a network connection whenther the server is there or not... the iOS device won't know a different locations WLAN is not the same as your home WLAN.

 

Hope this makes sense and shows even more how badly thought out this change was on Apple's part.

I'm not disagreeing with you about the pain Apple's decision has caused to users, and I'm not qualified to comment on the wisdom or otherwise of their decision, but to focus on the technical side for a moment…

The process uses SSL so the traffic isn't 'open'. AIUI your mobile device looks for a server (which is in your machine). If it doesn't find it, it won't sync. Likewise, your desktop/laptop looks for your mobile device, and if it doesn't find it, then syncing won't happen.

If you are away from your home network and you don't trust the available networks, then you can choose 'Create Network…' on your laptop and do a direct sync on that ad hoc network between your phone and your laptop.

I realise it doesn't answer all the issues that the loss of a USB sync has created - it doesn't solve them all for me either - but it is at least a viable workround for some users.

That makes no sense S'wank. Why are you still trolling these threads? Do you have a solution? No.

Pete

petermac87 wrote:

 

That makes no sense S'wank.

Mind if I incorporate that into my boilerplate, I may need to use it and typing is such a chore

Feel free. I fear it may have to be used often.

Cheers

Pete

It's not MS's fault.  They're not the ones that removed Sync Services.  Apple is the one that removed sync services and they're also the ones that removed USB sync from iTunes on OSX.  Has nothing to do with MS.  At this point is take even a USB sync to the core Apple apps in OSX, but you can't even do that because Apple doesn't allow it.  It should be a user's choice to use USB or Cloud based sync services, NOT a corporation's.

SwankPeRFection wrote:

 

It should be a user's choice to use USB or Cloud based sync services, NOT a corporation's.

That makes no sense S'wank.

Pete

MS have had plenty of time to come up with an alternative, but they have chosen not to.

The users choice is whether to buy something or not, exercise your rights and don't buy Apple products that can't do what you want.

Some words to petermac87, CSound1 and KiltedTim :

in this thread I find a lot of contributions of you three.

A lot of them are debasing other contributors. ("You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.")

I can not see any positive solution that you proposed in this thread - except "don't buy Apple products" That's what you, petermac87, suggest when somebody has a problem with Apples policy.

You are (almost in this thread) not very constructive, but you are quite active in different discussions :  I counted 25 contributions of KiltedTim in the last 3 hours, 16 from petermac87 in the last 2 hours and 25 from CSound1 in the last 2 hours.

No idea if you do all this on your free time. What ever …

KiltedTim wrote lately "You've crossed the line into trolldom. Go away."

Please, could you apply this advice to yourself and let this thread develop a little bit without you ? Would this be possible ?

Thanks

No. We are here for the long haul. So what is your addition to this thread? If non, as it appears, then take your own advice. You must have plenty of free time to be counting posts.

Apply your suggestions to yourself and others, or are you simply here to rant and be rude and negative?

Happy counting. Add one more to your list from me.

Cheers 

Pete

First, we lost local sync for notes and reminders. Then, we lost local sync for calendar and address book.

I wonder if apple is also going to remove local sync services for apps, movies, TV shows, podcasts, books and photos as well in the future.

If so, will setting up a server cover these potential future local sync losses as well?

While waiting for apple to solve the problem, Is it possible to move the syncservices binaries to Mavericks and start the services there?.

I understand that theres more to it, but perhaps someone with OSX knowledge know if its plausible?

(Csound1 ,petermac87, and the other trolls, please do not respond to this post.)

Hi Marcus,

          try Google.

Cheers

Pete

Marcus wrote :

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(Csound1 ,petermac87, and the other trolls, please do not respond to this post.)"

Marcus and all, each time you respond to them or mention them, you're giving them more power.

Let them have their fun.

Best.