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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Nov 30, 2013 2:34 AM in response to Ryks
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    Nov 30, 2013 2:34 AM in response to Ryks

    Yes, a pretty silly thing to post in online Forums. Especially in a thread that is not even theirs.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by Mrs. Miggins,

    Mrs. Miggins Mrs. Miggins Nov 30, 2013 3:54 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 30, 2013 3:54 AM in response to Gerrit7

    A question to all those here who use 'Privacy' and 'Control of data' as their reasons for wanting to retain USB sync of contacts and calendars...

     

    Do you use email? If so, do you host your own local SSL-enabled email server that never sends emails outside of your local network to guarantee yourself the same security and privacy a local USB sync of contacts and calendars does?

     

    I ask because email frequently contains contact and calendar data, and lots of other even more confidential personal data included in the correspondence between you and the family, friends, companies and organisations you deal with on a daily basis.

     

    Which email providers give you the same security and privacy assurances that a local USB sync of contacts and calendars gives you?

  • by James Richards,

    James Richards James Richards Nov 30, 2013 4:27 AM in response to Mrs. Miggins
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    Nov 30, 2013 4:27 AM in response to Mrs. Miggins

    I'm choosy about what contact and calendar information (among other things) I share by email for precisely that reason. My contacts and calendars contain information which I would not choose to share in the interests of my own privacy or the privacy of other people. I'm not comfortable with a solution which requires me to put that information online in order to synchronise devices. That's why I'm glad a syncing solution is possible which avoids that necessity.

     

    I'm still struggling with a workflow issue of how to keep those calendars which I do sync into the public domain (via Google) in sync between my devices when Internet access is unavailable. Previously I used sync services between devices, and let the laptop keep everything in sync with Google. Instead now I'm having to be disciplined about only using one device to record new contacts and new events, and remembering that for my Google synced calendars only that device is up to date with the latest information. It is much less convenient than when I could just plug the phone into the laptop, and after that do my desk based work on the laptop knowing that at the end of te session I could simply do s second USB sync and any changes to those Google-synced calendars and contacts would also be matched on my phone.

     

    Currently I find both workrounds rather clunky, so I'm still hoping a better solution will emerge (ideally one that is not too costly).

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Nov 30, 2013 4:46 AM in response to marcus_z
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    Nov 30, 2013 4:46 AM in response to marcus_z

    marcus_z wrote:

     

    (Csound1 ,petermac87, and the other trolls, please do not respond to this post.)

    You may make such a request but be aware that no one is required to honor it. As long as people don't violate the Terms of Use, they may post in whatever thread they like and respond to whomever they like. You, of course, are free to ignore them.

     

    Best of luck.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 30, 2013 4:53 AM in response to Ju from France
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    Nov 30, 2013 4:53 AM in response to Ju from France

    Ju from France wrote:

     

    Some words to petermac87, CSound1 and KiltedTim :

     

    in this thread I find a lot of contributions of you three.

    A lot of them are debasing other contributors. ("You have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.")

    Sorry. That's not "debasing" other contributors, that stating fact. If you go off on some ignorant rant about antitrust law in a public forum, you should expect to get called out for it. Same goes for the idiots who think that the US Constitution guarantees them the right to say anything any time, any where.

     

    This thread is composed largely of whiners and/or paranoids.  The question was answered long ago. Trolls continue to egg it on.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 30, 2013 5:02 AM in response to marcus_z
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    Nov 30, 2013 5:02 AM in response to marcus_z

    marcus_z wrote:

     

    While waiting for apple to solve the problem, Is it possible to move the syncservices binaries to Mavericks and start the services there?.

    I understand that theres more to it, but perhaps someone with OSX knowledge know if its plausible?

     

    (Csound1 ,petermac87, and the other trolls, please do not respond to this post.)

    Whether you want it or not, I'm going to answer. Why? Because I'm not a troll. The people who keep beating this to death are the trolls.

     

    You have, however, asked a legitimate, intelligent question that none of the whiners have asked to date.

     

    Unfortunately, though I'm not positive, and I'm not willing to put the time into the testing myself, I don't believe it's possible. Sync Services started behaving pretty badly with OS X 10.7 and got worse in 10.8. It was deprecated as of 10.7. I'm guessing one of the reasons it was removed was because it became so unreliable under 10.9 that Apple felt it better to just kill it once and for all.

     

    I don't have the time or a spare boot drive that I can dedicate to trying to restore the 10.8 sync services files. It may work.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 30, 2013 5:40 AM in response to Ryks
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    Nov 30, 2013 5:40 AM in response to Ryks

    Ruks wrote;

     

    "(Csound1 ,petermac87, and the other trolls, please do not respond to this post.)"

     

    I have thought about your request and decided to ignore it, sorry.

  • by Wymapper,

    Wymapper Wymapper Nov 30, 2013 2:28 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 30, 2013 2:28 PM in response to Gerrit7

    I finialy got local Sync back on my MacBook Pro and IOS 7 devices for calenders and Contacts, but it's a workaround. I want SYNC without using iCloud! My MBP has an SSD with OS X 10.9, Mavericks, I created an external drive which I downloaded a pre Mavaricks OS. I used a restore from my Time Machine backup, Mountain Lion OS X  10.8.5 with an older version of ITunes (11.0.2). I used this USB drive as my startup drive. I tried to local sync my IOS 7.0.4 iPad and got a message to load iTunes 11.1.3.  I went back on-line and downloaded iTunes 11.1.3. I re-started th MBP in Mountain Lion and the iTunes. 

     

    The iTunes INFO tab was back with local SYNC for Apple Calender and Contacts could be selected. I Synced an iPad 2 and a iPhone 5s using this drive with Mountain Lion/iTunes.  I ran an off-line test with several dummy Calender events and dummy contacts and they transferred to all three devices. SYNC with no ICloud! Now I'll have to reboot in the old OS to SYNC, which is a pain, But the reboot in Mavaricks is very fast on the SSD drive, at 36 Sec.

     

    Please Apple give us the option to select Local Sync vs. ICloud Sync in iTunes, for many users, like me, this is mandatory as they have no access or very limited access to the CLOUD. I'm off the GRID from 3 to 6 months a year.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Nov 30, 2013 2:44 PM in response to Wymapper
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    Nov 30, 2013 2:44 PM in response to Wymapper

    The 'sync services' were removed from 10.9, iTunes isn't the issue here. It is the lack of a framework that does the syncing within the OS. All older OS X versions work the same as always, with local USB syncing. Reverting to 10.8 or earlier was always an option.

     

    I think you would be better off trying to run 10.8 in a virtual machine, at least you could add events or look up Contacts without 2 reboots, assuming you can get USB to work correctly.

  • by Ryks,

    Ryks Ryks Dec 1, 2013 3:52 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Dec 1, 2013 3:52 AM in response to Gerrit7

    Hi,

    could someone please confirm that,  in spite the fact that USB syncing of contacts and calendar has been removed in Mavericks, it is still possible to back up/restore your iPhone via USB, including for its contacts and calendars?

    Thanks

  • by Rust,

    Rust Rust Dec 1, 2013 4:32 AM in response to Ryks
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    Dec 1, 2013 4:32 AM in response to Ryks

    I believe so. I just did it over wi-fi so I see no reason why USB wouldn't work as well.

  • by StinkyOldC,

    StinkyOldC StinkyOldC Dec 1, 2013 5:50 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Dec 1, 2013 5:50 AM in response to Gerrit7

    really Apple, really? why are you trying to force me to use iCloud? what idiot took the decision to remove local sync? not happy!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Dec 1, 2013 5:53 AM in response to StinkyOldC
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    Dec 1, 2013 5:53 AM in response to StinkyOldC

    Really stinky, really another who does not realize that this is not Apple?

     

    Really?

  • by StinkyOldC,

    StinkyOldC StinkyOldC Dec 1, 2013 5:54 AM in response to Csound1
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    Dec 1, 2013 5:54 AM in response to Csound1

    very helpful reply....no really this is! thanks!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Dec 1, 2013 5:55 AM in response to StinkyOldC
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    Dec 1, 2013 5:55 AM in response to StinkyOldC

    Have it however you want, your divorced from reality anyway, a little more won't hurt.

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