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Dec 6, 2013 10:19 AM in response to Csound1by feinmeister,Csound1:
I'm a reasonable person ;-)
Honestly, I thought (being a rank beginner on this forum and apprently dense!
) that my posts were replies to individuals SORRY for cluttering your InBox.
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Dec 6, 2013 10:25 AM in response to feinmeisterby Chris CA,feinmeister wrote:
Csound1:
I'm a reasonable person ;-)
Honestly, I thought (being a rank beginner on this forum and apprently dense!
) that my posts were replies to individuals SORRY for cluttering your InBox.
When you respoind to an individual in a thread, it goes into the thread.
If you reply with the same response to 10 individuals, each & every post is displayed in the thread.
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Dec 6, 2013 10:29 AM in response to Csound1by ladhsfopwen,Thanks for that over obvious observation, I might have missed that otherwise.
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Dec 6, 2013 8:32 PM in response to Gerrit7by U.B.,People, please just ignore those who are paid here to talk us into accepting iCloud.
Lets get back to solution how to go around this problem while avoiding to reinstall the previous OS.
I do not see possibility of Apple changing anything to our favour. We should rather pressure other developers to create apps for calendars, notes, contacts… for both iOS and OS and enable us to sync locally. This was successfully done on 1Password example. Pressure and public cry made them to go back to wifi syncing. So now I do not need Apple for passwords protection and privacy.
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Dec 6, 2013 8:34 PM in response to U.B.by Csound1,Nobody posting here gets paid, not you and not us.
Insulting of you to suggest it.
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Dec 7, 2013 8:46 AM in response to Csound1by feinmeister,U.B. et al,
I've been dealing with Apple's Executive Customer Service for this issue. After going thru multiple CSRs (customer service reps) and supervisors, I landed at the top of the service food chain. I've been told that Apple engineers will only fix this issue / reinstate manual sync option for Mavericks when they receive enough feedback that lets them know that many folks are unhappy. A while back, I had a problem with Time Machine and after enough noise, Apple did fix the issue. Apple is responsive but you must give them info the way they want it.
Again, the engineers monitor the Apple feedback site and look for trends and volume. Go to apple.com/feedback > Select iPhone and Mavericks (that would be feedback twice) > Select the subject Design and Ease of Use > express your desire to manually sync using Mavericks / reinstate the option. Customer Service ops need feedback in one area so that it is easy for them to see issue volume and trends. I've run service ops and I can tell you that nothing gets done unless an issue is loud and clear.
IF you want a fix, get other dissatisfied folks to submit feedback-- Apple will listen. The removal of the CHOICE to manually sync and forcing iCloud syncing goes against what Apple stands for, they will listen IF you talk where they listen.
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Dec 6, 2013 10:21 PM in response to feinmeisterby feinmeister,David Pogue left NY Times to start consumer tech site for Yahoo
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Dec 6, 2013 11:50 PM in response to feinmeisterby petermac87,And you can put posters up around the streets.
Cheers
Pete
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Dec 7, 2013 12:28 AM in response to Gerrit7by WH,I agree with Feinmeister,
but I like to add, we need forum to discuss this stuff. If we do not discuss this,
nobody has personal overlook and idea about the future, about systems future and privacy and so on.
So, basically, it is not bad to discuss. Some people may change her minds also.
More than that, it is important.
So, we should discuss this, and if anybody does not agree with Apple ideas, he should go to
apple.com/feedback.
I think, it is a less good idea, to generally prevent discussion, commenting "go to feedback".
Its basically right, but without discussion people often do not get a personal idea and dont get know
of Apples feedback site. So, we need both.
The cuestion is, if we do right, discuss on Gerrit7's thread. I imagine, his cuestion is already answered,
that there is no adequate option.
Maybe he can comment himself, if he agrees to this discussion or if he would like the thread topic related.
If he dont agrees, we should open a new discussion thread, which would clearly have the disadvantage, that this
one already says everything and has more than 100000 views.
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Dec 7, 2013 8:44 AM in response to WHby patrick.fr,Hi
i completely agree with WH, Feinmeister, and other
WE NEED TO DiSCUSS about this subject and THIS THREAD is perhaps not intended for this,
but nevertheless very suitable
I personnaly post several message to Apple Support, alas i and we have no possibilty to know if they even received them, read them, and take care of them
we all express in this thread and to apple support our opinion about the use of an important (for us) Apple software, Apple must take care of us and has to repply
PS:
i like, i love the solutions coming from Petermac87 and the contribution of other Apple fanatic, when i am sad i just have to read such contributions in this post and my day is coming immediately better...
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Dec 7, 2013 4:44 AM in response to patrick.frby Csound1,By asking for a posters home address you are in violation of the terms of use for this site, please refrain from doing it again.
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Dec 7, 2013 5:09 AM in response to Csound1by patrick.fr,hi Csound1
very pleased to see you again and again and again ... in this post
in french we call what i wrote "second degré"
i don't think you really understood and i am not surprised about it and about your very quick and strict reaction ...
be sure i have never to do wih your adress, or Petermac87 adress or other adress of person like you in this post
have a good day