Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

Agreed, except the thread is in reference to OSX Mavericks. They are the 'users' I am refering to. And is iTunes able to be installed on Windows 8? I wouldn't know.

Thanks

Pete

Very true. But, you'd still be surprised. I read percentages on people who dual boot a while back and it was much bigger than I expected (though I don't remember exact numbers).

Best of luck.

I still wonder whether iTunes works on Windows 8 though.

Cheers

Pete

As I am one of those Apple uses without a Windoze box, I don't know!

Touché

Cheers

Pete

It does.

http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ - expand "Windows Requirements".

petermac87 wrote:

Most users do not have a Windoze box. I have none in my Computer collection, and will never contemplate adding one.

And how long do you think that Apple may leave this option in iTunes for Windows? I am not even sure if the iTunes works in Windows 8. You may need to use an outdated Windows OS to run iTunes, so why not just use an outdated Mac OSX?

It doesn't matter what Apple does in iTunes on Windows. iTunes supports local USB sync on Windows now, so if you're a Windows user, you can depend upon that support for many more years to come. All you need to do is keep a separate copy of the app in your archive.

Many legacy apps continue to run on my Win7 & 8 machines... I can still open TurboTax 1998 on Win7.

I'm not advocating that others switch over but we did migrate our company, used the end of the year holiday slowdown to complete our move. YMMV, and it doesn't really matter one way or the other. It's the best alternative we could implement, considering Apple deprecated us but continued support in Windows.

Matt Schultz wrote:

I can still open TurboTax 1998 on Win7.

 

 

Why would you want to use a 16 year old Tax Application????

Times musn't change there, I suppose.

Good luck with that.

Pete

Matt - Your company migrated from Mac to Windoze just because you lost USB sync of contacts and calendar?  There must be crazier things to do but that must be up there with the wildest.

I still have a thinkpad in the attic. Like Dorian Gray's portrait, it gets old and ugly while the mbp stays beautiful.

(But it does run DVDShrink occasionally)

petermac87 wrote:

 

Why would you want to use a 16 year old Tax Application????

There are many reasons a company needs to research previous tax records, financial statements, P&L, W-2, 1099 statements, investment figures, SEC info and/or multifarious other financial data. It was only an example... but  asking such a question says much about the thoughtfulness of your response.

peter_watt wrote:

 

Matt - Your company migrated from Mac to Windoze just because you lost USB sync of contacts and calendar?

Yes, I've documented this quite clearly here. When we purchased the MacBook Airs and other equipment from Apple, USB local sync was a huge decision point in that procurement. We absolutely require this - not like a doctor or nurse due to HIPPA regulations, or any financial planner or banker due to SEC or Treasury regulations or police officer under a court order or even an independent code writer with a strict customer NDA or any of the other various careers impacted by Apple's USB local sync deprecation - but simply, due to the way our business works.

When Apple abandoned this functionality/feature shortly after our field deployment, we knew we were in trouble and needed to make a move as soon as possible in order to: (1) maintain long term local sync support for our field techs, who typically are without cell or WiFi coverage during 95% of their work week - and are often in the field for 2, 3 or 4 weeks concurrently; (2) enable long term OS support for our business; (3) exit the Apple-abandons-this-or-that-at-a-whim treadmill and achieve long term, dependable systems support so we can keep our customers happy; and, (4) maximize the resale value of the slightly used computers.

As much as I disliked it, the move went well, and we've hit the ground running to start the new year. This wasn't my original plan. I didn't deprecate OS X while supporting Windows & I have a really hard time believing Steve would've ever let this happen.

 

When Apple abandoned this functionality/feature shortly after our field deployment, we knew we were in trouble and needed to make a move as soon as possible in order to: (1) maintain long term local sync support for our field techs, who typically are without cell or WiFi coverage during 95% of their work week - and are often in the field for 2, 3 or 4 weeks concurrently; (2) enable long term OS support for our business; (3) exit the Apple-abandons-this-or-that-at-a-whim treadmill and achieve long term, dependable systems support so we can keep our customers happy; and, (4) maximize the resale value of the slightly used computers.

 

 

I must reflect my dismay about the loss of this feature as well. While my contacts are personal and my phone used for both business and personal, my basic concerns are that of privacy and security. My contacts exist on the iPhone and recently I wanted to update to my MBP so learning this was a SURPRISE. Yet another avenue for Apple to (in my opinion) overstep boundaries. while the OS and IOS are licensed by me my data is that, my data and also my responsibility to maintain and preserve if important. The OPTION to use or NOT use the iCloud for backup of contacts etc.I believe should be mine (of course, though I'm not buying the contact info as I am music am I?)

Matt Schultz wrote:

 

(2) enable long term OS support for our business; (3) exit the Apple-abandons-this-or-that-at-a-whim treadmill and achieve long term, dependable systems support so we can keep our customers happy; and, (4) maximize the resale value of the slightly used computers.

 

That's one of the reasons a lot of businesses don't use Apple computers. IT depts hate that.

Matt Schultz wrote:

 

As much as I disliked it, the move went well, and we've hit the ground running to start the new year. This wasn't my original plan. I didn't deprecate OS X while supporting Windows & I have a really hard time believing Steve would've ever let this happen.

Talk like that will get you vilified around here. It's a shame you couldn't stick it out a bit longer. I reckon someone will crack it soon.

Some haters will be along soon enough...........

Matt Schultz wrote:

 

peter_watt wrote:

 

Matt - Your company migrated from Mac to Windoze just because you lost USB sync of contacts and calendar?

Yes, I've documented this quite clearly here. When we purchased the MacBook Airs and other equipment from Apple, USB local sync was a huge decision point in that procurement. We absolutely require this - not like a doctor or nurse due to HIPPA regulations, or any financial planner or banker due to SEC or Treasury regulations or police officer under a court order or even an independent code writer with a strict customer NDA or any of the other various careers impacted by Apple's USB local sync deprecation - but simply, due to the way our business works.

 

When Apple abandoned this functionality/feature shortly after our field deployment, we knew we were in trouble and needed to make a move as soon as possible in order to: (1) maintain long term local sync support for our field techs, who typically are without cell or WiFi coverage during 95% of their work week - and are often in the field for 2, 3 or 4 weeks concurrently; (2) enable long term OS support for our business; (3) exit the Apple-abandons-this-or-that-at-a-whim treadmill and achieve long term, dependable systems support so we can keep our customers happy; and, (4) maximize the resale value of the slightly used computers.

 

As much as I disliked it, the move went well, and we've hit the ground running to start the new year. This wasn't my original plan. I didn't deprecate OS X while supporting Windows & I have a really hard time believing Steve would've ever let this happen.

If you are now using Windoze boxes, why are you still hanging around the OSX Mavericks forums, moaning to us about something you should be moaning to Apple about, and something that now doesn't even affect you? If your business doesn't work without local sync, then it doesn't work with local sync. Good. You solved your issue. Move on and stop ranting.

Cheers

Pete

Matt Schultz wrote:

 

When Apple abandoned this functionality/feature shortly after our field deployment, we knew we were in trouble and needed to make a move as soon as possible in order to: (1) maintain long term local sync support for our field techs, who typically are without cell or WiFi coverage during 95% of their work week - and are often in the field for 2, 3 or 4 weeks concurrently; (2) enable long term OS support for our business; (3) exit the Apple-abandons-this-or-that-at-a-whim treadmill and achieve long term, dependable systems support so we can keep our customers happy; and, (4) maximize the resale value of the slightly used computers.

I think this gutsy, decisive, logic-based decision making is awesome. I suspect your company is extremely well run and I wish you all the best. When deal-breakers affect the success of your business, action is needed.

I'm not as up against the wall as Matt's company. So I am hoping someone will produce a product allowing contact sync between iOS and Mac Outlook. That's my need. But I am not sure if there are some technical roadblocks to that. Maybe Apple has closed to door to the necessary APIs by controlling iTunes.