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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by 1SunnyNP,

    1SunnyNP 1SunnyNP Jan 14, 2014 8:58 PM in response to Mac Allan
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    Jan 14, 2014 8:58 PM in response to Mac Allan

    How did you rollback to mountain lion?  I'm new to mac, and I had just had everything working perfectly before I agreed to the "update" (oxymoron).  I'd hate to do a fresh install and start from scratch...

  • by 1SunnyNP,

    1SunnyNP 1SunnyNP Jan 14, 2014 9:06 PM in response to DigiAngel
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    Jan 14, 2014 9:06 PM in response to DigiAngel

    Thanks for being empathetic, but you forgot about us mac newbies who are still figuring out how to use a Mac after 20 years of Microsoft.  I was SOOO happy I made the switch until this week....  Of course I had just gotten everything to sync perfectly when I was dumb and assumed the update must be better (or else why would there be an update?) and it's fallen apart.  I hadn't learned how to do a back up yet, so I'm stuck trying to figure out how to start from scratch. 

  • by 1SunnyNP,

    1SunnyNP 1SunnyNP Jan 14, 2014 9:28 PM in response to Matt Schultz
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    Jan 14, 2014 9:28 PM in response to Matt Schultz

    As a Nurse Practitioner who must comply with HIPPA laws, I can't sync my iPad with patient data (appts, contact info, notes, etc) over the cloud, and now I cannot sync locally since Maverick took it away.  Definitely going to have an impact in the medical field.  Some of us who work in small, rural, private offices can't afford IT guys to do it for us.  As a medical professional, I know very little about IT issues or work-arounds, which is why I'm here on this forum- though I think this may have been as long (and as confusing) as the afordable care act.

    What makes it worse is that I live 2 hours away from the nearest apple store, so I can't even beg them to help me undo this "update".

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Jan 14, 2014 9:35 PM in response to 1SunnyNP
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    Jan 14, 2014 9:35 PM in response to 1SunnyNP

    1SunnyNP wrote:

     

    As a Nurse Practitioner who must comply with HIPPA laws, I can't sync my iPad with patient data (appts, contact info, notes, etc) over the cloud, and now I cannot sync locally since Maverick took it away.

     

    You are putting patient info on your personal iPad.

     

    and now I cannot sync locally since Maverick took it away.

    You should be syncing contacts & calendars on your work iPad with your hospitals exchange server, not thru iCloud or your computer.

  • by RJHack,

    RJHack RJHack Jan 15, 2014 1:32 AM in response to James Richards
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    Jan 15, 2014 1:32 AM in response to James Richards

    Thanks for the help, but the links may as well be written in another language to me... I use Mac because it is "plug and play". Also I don't have access to set up my router....

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Jan 15, 2014 1:51 AM in response to RJHack
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    Jan 15, 2014 1:51 AM in response to RJHack

    RJHack, icloud is simpler than USB itunes sync.

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Jan 15, 2014 1:51 AM in response to 1SunnyNP
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    Jan 15, 2014 1:51 AM in response to 1SunnyNP

    1SunnyNP wrote:

     

    As a Nurse Practitioner who must comply with HIPPA laws, I can't sync my iPad with patient data (appts, contact info, notes, etc) over the cloud, and now I cannot sync locally since Maverick took it away.  Definitely going to have an impact in the medical field.  Some of us who work in small, rural, private offices can't afford IT guys to do it for us.  As a medical professional, I know very little about IT issues or work-arounds, which is why I'm here on this forum- though I think this may have been as long (and as confusing) as the afordable care act.

    What makes it worse is that I live 2 hours away from the nearest apple store, so I can't even beg them to help me undo this "update".

     

    1sunnyNP what would HIPAA think about you losing your ipad?  If the answer is that it is password protected, so is icloud.

     

    Has HIPAA actually said that the pretty darn secure Apple icloud is off limits? Using a secure depository for email addresses is not the same as proliferating personal and medical notes across the internet, as one poster described it.

    Unless of course you are using the Notes section of contacts for medical notes which would already be against guidance.

     

    And it is HIPAA Surely, not HIPPA?

  • by RJHack,

    RJHack RJHack Jan 15, 2014 1:57 AM in response to peter_watt
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    Jan 15, 2014 1:57 AM in response to peter_watt

    Yes, iCloud is simple - when you have good, reliable internet access (I don't) and when you don't have privacy protection issues for your data (both legally and morally).

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 15, 2014 2:08 AM in response to RJHack
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:08 AM in response to RJHack

    So you don't use email? Texting? Social Media? Telephone? All very insecure also.

     

    Pete

  • by applejpmc,

    applejpmc applejpmc Jan 15, 2014 2:09 AM in response to RJHack
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:09 AM in response to RJHack

    This is absolutely the point that so many on this thread do not understand at all or do not want to even try to understand.

     

    Most Mac users do NOT either know or WANT to know programming or geek-speek, they simply wnat to use the mac as a good and useful tool. It still is way better than a PC, but the iCould enforced sync issue is HUGE and as any actually willing to see is really forcing a reassesment of using Mac at all.

     

    The Baikal solution might be fine for some and thanks to Barney for getting this to the forum, but for me and most non-techy Mac user it is beyond complicated.

     

    The OSX Server is a possible way to sync but I've bought it tried it and can only get the contacts part to work - it is VERY slow indeed, it produces multiple (and by multiple I mean sometimes over 100) duplicates of contacts when I sync on several contacts so every sync means spending a minimum of 30 minutes syncing and an hour deleting duplicated contacts. As well as this it seems to be impossible to get it to sync without trying a number of different ways every time - very inconsistent.

     

    Cannot get the calendar to sync at all on OSX Server.

     

    So I use an older mac to sync my calendar, this means the music on my iPhone is wiped every time I sync the calendar (until I get time to get the old and current Mac iTunes library set up the same way). Then I go back to my current mac (Air) with OSX Server on it and sync the contacts by Wifi (a really slow and painful way compared to the old USB way) and then put the music back on my iPhones.

     

    It is possible to do but as more and more people seem to find the Samsung mobile phones better than iPhone there will be a point where if there is no really simple sync option I'll probably dump Mac altogether. Simply do not have the time to waste on this.

     

    This thread has been useful, if only the 'precious' types could stop the endless teenage winge and either really contribute or shut up.

     

    To those who really try to help thanks.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 15, 2014 2:12 AM in response to applejpmc
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:12 AM in response to applejpmc

    I would disagree with that rant.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Jan 15, 2014 2:51 AM in response to applejpmc
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:51 AM in response to applejpmc

    Applejpmc, The people who have really contributed have offered two technical solutions that you don't seem technically able to implement, and you seem to have the same probem with the older tech too. (You lose your music every time you sync with itunes??? really??)

     

    Use icloud, it's idiot proof.  I can even sync icloud Cal and Contacts to my Samsung phone. 

     

    (And it has been over 43 years since I was last a teenager)

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Jan 15, 2014 3:04 AM in response to RJHack
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    Jan 15, 2014 3:04 AM in response to RJHack

    "...Yes, iCloud is simple - when you have good, reliable internet access (I don't) and when you don't have privacy protection issues for your data (both legally and morally).

    ..."

     

    I can understand some dinosaur governments and institutions laying down legal restrictions, but explain the moral dimesnion please.  

    Re connectivity, my android phone can sync with icloud  in seconds over 2G or 3G, and when I get home the cal is updated on the Mac already. Minimal internet bandwidth required. 

  • by applejpmc,

    applejpmc applejpmc Jan 15, 2014 4:27 AM in response to peter_watt
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    Jan 15, 2014 4:27 AM in response to peter_watt

    peter_watt

    The two solutions offered are both helpful, one immensly complicated, the other less so (OSX Server) - I don't hve the knowledge or wish to get into techy stuff so I went for the OSX Server option. And yes I have had problems, I'm not a techy, so some of the things in it are not simple. And that's actually the point of why I chose Mac back in 1991 - it was simple, unlike MS-Dos.

     

    I do not want to use iCloud - and by the nature of my business cannot break confidentiality agreements by using it.

     

    Perhaps it would be a lot simpler if those who want to ram iCloud down other people's throats could keep off this discussion after all the title is"

    "How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option"

  • by applejpmc,

    applejpmc applejpmc Jan 15, 2014 4:30 AM in response to peter_watt
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    Jan 15, 2014 4:30 AM in response to peter_watt

    Sorry forgot to say the itunes music sync issue is because I've had to go back to a MacBook Pro that I haven't used for a year and as a result the itunes music library on it and the Air I now use are totally different.

     

    Before the Mavericks sync mess I never anticipated that this would be a problem. So it isn't that I had a problem with the older tech. Frankly almost never had any issues at all since 1991 till now.

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