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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by wiredancer,

    wiredancer wiredancer Jan 15, 2014 1:25 PM in response to applejpmc
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    Jan 15, 2014 1:25 PM in response to applejpmc

    applejpmc:

     

    I'm also looking for a solution, like you are and am just as frustrated. I don't and I can not use iCloud, because of several reasons. But I am sure a solution will come. Some 3rd party developer will come up with a good, easy and usable solution. Who knows, maybe even Apple, will but it back. Something will come along. Don't be irritated by some iCloud preachers.


    I have recently installed ownCloud on my own server at www.hostpoint.ch  Have you heard of ownCloud? ownCloud is an open source solution to synchronize files, in other words, no big economical interest behind it. It's free and works well for Calendar (CalDav). It's supposed to work for Address (CardDav) as well, but iOS 7 is causing errors. So, as I said, not an ideal solution.

    The reason for mentioning Hostpoint: I have all my domain names and web sites hosted at this company. Hostpoint is a small, innovative company located on secluded Swiss territory. Switzerland is know for its excellent privacy policy laws and is politically, as well as economically one of the safest countries in the world, very social oriented and no corruption. I have investigated a long time, in order to find the right host provider. There are several private Banks that also use Hostpoint for there sensitive data storage. So, I have installed ownCloud there, and this is the most I will trust my data outside of my own 4 walls, until a "local sync solution" will come back. Calendar syncing works very well.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 15, 2014 1:38 PM in response to applejpmc
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    Jan 15, 2014 1:38 PM in response to applejpmc

    applejpmc wrote:

     

    Couple that with the amount of people who come on this thread trying to tell everyone who comes here for a solution, how we HAVE to use iCloud or we are done for. Strange things being said on a thread setting to actually help.

    Who has said that "we HAVE to use iCloud" I don't see that, maybe you could post a link to that one (I am not saying that you made that up, just want to see it for myself)

     

    As I have said before, repeatedly. You can use any service you wish, including the highly secure (but not free) Hipaa compliant systems that already meet the stringent security standards required of the Medical Industry.

  • by ChrisW£,

    ChrisW£ ChrisW£ Jan 15, 2014 2:02 PM in response to feinmeister
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:02 PM in response to feinmeister

    Hi, haven't posted on here since I got my OSX server working and posted how to do it but I find it interesting that Apple Executive Service says said that the home connection is not fast enough. My OS X server runs on my Macbook Pro along with Mavericks and syncs with my iphone over my home wifi network which is controlled by an Apple Time Capsule which, being 802.11ac, I believe runs at 1.3Gb/s. Are they saying they're own netwok technology is not fast enough? How fast does it need to be?

     

    My setup also syncs fine when I am at work on a wifi network controlled by a BT 2wire wireless router, I think this 802.11b/g/n running at 450Mb/s.

     

    Chris.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 15, 2014 2:18 PM in response to ChrisW£
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:18 PM in response to ChrisW£

    ChrisW£ wrote:

     

    Hi, haven't posted on here since I got my OSX server working and posted how to do it but I find it interesting that Apple Executive Service says said that the home connection is not fast enough. My OS X server runs on my Macbook Pro along with Mavericks and syncs with my iphone over my home wifi network which is controlled by an Apple Time Capsule which, being 802.11ac, I believe runs at 1.3Gb/s. Are they saying they're own netwok technology is not fast enough? How fast does it need to be?

     

    My setup also syncs fine when I am at work on a wifi network controlled by a BT 2wire wireless router, I think this 802.11b/g/n running at 450Mb/s.

     

    Chris.

    In actuality the speeds may well be less than that, the advertised maxima for 802.11ac is 900Mb/s (160mhz channels only), or a little less than Gigabit. 802.11n maxes out at 600Mb/s (40mhz channels only), in practice these speeds will not be acheived.

     

    Compare to the usual Office environment which will probably be limited to 1Gb/s (Gigabit, a 10 percent improvement over 802.11ac) if hardwired and no more than you would see in your house if using WiFi at the office.

     

    There is no significant difference in speed between a normal hardwired office scenario and a 802.11ac wireless connection in the home.

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Jan 15, 2014 2:21 PM in response to ChrisW£
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:21 PM in response to ChrisW£

    ChrisW£ wrote:

     

    Hi, haven't posted on here since I got my OSX server working and posted how to do it but I find it interesting that Apple Executive Service says said that the home connection is not fast enough. My OS X server runs on my Macbook Pro along with Mavericks and syncs with my iphone over my home wifi network which is controlled by an Apple Time Capsule which, being 802.11ac, I believe runs at 1.3Gb/s. Are they saying they're own netwok technology is not fast enough? How fast does it need to be?

     

    My setup also syncs fine when I am at work on a wifi network controlled by a BT 2wire wireless router, I think this 802.11b/g/n running at 450Mb/s.

     

    Chris.

    My interpretation of that post was a bidirectional missunderstanding, or the "Executive" script reader was an idiot.

    It is likely he thought the person was actually wanting to run some type of web service over his home network, serving out to the internet. Given that he had to talk to the engineers, it is likely a bit of the old telephone game made it even worse.

  • by ChrisW£,

    ChrisW£ ChrisW£ Jan 15, 2014 2:34 PM in response to Barney-15E
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    Jan 15, 2014 2:34 PM in response to Barney-15E

    Hi Barney,

     

    I also wondered if they were referring to the speed of an internet connection. If they were, one wonders how iCloud manages to work effectively. Perhaps you are correct in assuming a misunderstanding.

     

    Chris.

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Jan 15, 2014 3:40 PM in response to ChrisW£
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    Jan 15, 2014 3:40 PM in response to ChrisW£

    ChrisW£ wrote:

     

    Hi Barney,

     

    I also wondered if they were referring to the speed of an internet connection.

    An internet connection doesn't matter. There are probably millions of servers that never touch the internet. They exist behind the firewall in their own little world.

  • by ChrisW£,

    ChrisW£ ChrisW£ Jan 15, 2014 4:31 PM in response to Barney-15E
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    Jan 15, 2014 4:31 PM in response to Barney-15E

    Hi Barney, another misunderstanding I think. To clarify my ambiguous statement, I should have said, "I also wondered (like you) if they were referring to the speed of an internet connection" which was in reference to your "...over his home network, serving out to the internet...."

     

    Chris.

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Jan 15, 2014 10:12 PM in response to 1SunnyNP
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    Jan 15, 2014 10:12 PM in response to 1SunnyNP

    Yep, and I think that a lot of the posters on here have assumed that all of the iDevices in use are personal devices. They will find something else to lambaste you about ad nauseum.

  • by Sincr USB Now,

    Sincr USB Now Sincr USB Now Jan 17, 2014 1:49 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Jan 17, 2014 1:49 AM in response to Gerrit7

    Apple has decided by all us which is better to use the iCloud. It is not as close to a dictatorship? Why not leave the option to sync via USB? So everyone is happy and Apple will continue to be my idol.

     

     

    But the power is stronger and the need for raw material for stronger companies: our data.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 17, 2014 2:27 AM in response to Sincr USB Now
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    Jan 17, 2014 2:27 AM in response to Sincr USB Now

    No one is forcing you to use iCloud. There are options mentioned through these posts if you bother to read them.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by wiredancer,

    wiredancer wiredancer Jan 17, 2014 4:25 AM in response to petermac87
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    Jan 17, 2014 4:25 AM in response to petermac87

    What other option???? Have you proposed one singular other easy, for every one understandable solution? I have heard enough for all of you, preaching iCloud. Of course is Apple forcing everyone to use iCloud or any other Could. How else would you sync your devices, since they unexpectedly discontinued the local sync option? Please!

     


     

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  • by woodmeister50,

    woodmeister50 woodmeister50 Jan 17, 2014 2:44 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Jan 17, 2014 2:44 AM in response to Gerrit7

    FWIW, iTunes itself is NOT a secure syncing service,

    USB or iCloud.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 17, 2014 2:44 AM in response to wiredancer
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    Jan 17, 2014 2:44 AM in response to wiredancer

    Have you not been following this topic?

    How many more times do the options need to be posted? Read the thread if you are going to comment on it.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by jayv.,

    jayv. jayv. Jan 17, 2014 2:46 AM in response to wiredancer
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    Jan 17, 2014 2:46 AM in response to wiredancer

    Set up your own sync server is one of them. Another idea, though it's a crazy one, don't upgrade to Mavericks! A few ideas have been presented, you don't like any of them that's too bad, it's all you got at the moment. You may also want to try a more civilized approach when addressing others.

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