Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I know what you mean by the digital divide. Sometimes I am on the wrong side of it. It is one of the reasons why iCloud (or other cloud-based services: Google, DropBox etc.) are not an option for me. Both the Baïkal server option, and the OS X server option avoid the need for internet access.

If you have a home network, they will operate wholly within that network. If you do not have, or do not have access to a home network, then they can operate directly between your computer and your iPhone in a way that is just as easy as the USB connection. The difficulty is in the initial setup only.

gumsie wrote:

 

Just so you are aware, there is no such thing as free, (IMO).

I'm aware and I agree. Though I prefer Apple's kind of free over Google or Facebook's kind of free any day. The costs being built into the iDevice price may be true but without the iDevice there would be no need for the service and iDevice prices* have been pretty much the same even since before iCloud was around, so in this particular case I personally would consider iCloud a truly free service.

*going off of memory so this statement can be true/false 50/50.

I may be wrong on this, if I am someone with the right knowledge will correct me later on. If you set up an OS X server and allow it to be accessed from anywhere, by setting up the DNS on the server itself the right way it can be both a remote and local server.

Let's say the server is set up with a domain name server.com, this is the address your iPhone will contact when away from home and sync. But if the local DNS is set up right, when on the local network it will link server.com to the local server directly instead of going online. Not sure if I'm explaining my throughts properly, I hope someone gets my drift

This way you will have the sync when away from home ánd when at home and only one scenario uses the actual internet connection. Point being that those that do not always have internet or pay for every MB used will have a choice on how to use the server.

Sort of. My most recent years in my current job have taught me that customers pay for everything. (So maybe it's the company I work for).

Though device prices have been the same for a while a business, especially one the size of Apple was considering all of this ages ago and were very likely positioning themselves, (via reduced parts and labour costs whilst keeping sales prices static), to make it appear free.

There are always options to continue working (all that you say). But Apple has decided to remove this option and break the bond of people and technology for everyone. Apple should include all options. What is meant when a technology does not unite people?

You better think globally, we are all together and we need technologies that unite us. I think people who do not have all the facilities.

Apple should include all options.

Who says?

And by "include all options" do you mean they should include all options to sync by any means any customer wants? For instance, USB, Firewire, Thunderbolt, WiFI, 3G, 4G, Bluetooth, Ethernet, SCSI, Floppy Disk, RS-232 - all options anyone might conceivably desire?

Apple are not obligated to do anything (except by law), nor to keep any features or services they offer now going forever. There are no laws saying Apple must forever offer USB syncing, just as there are none that say Android-based phones must (they don't either).

Sincr USB Now wrote:

 

But Apple has decided to remove this option and break the bond of people and technology for everyone.

That's just rubbish. This thread may be 140 pages long but those that want USB syncing back (myself included) are still outnumbered by milions that are fine with using a cloud service to sync. If it wasn't for recent Snowden revelations about NSA, GCHQ etc etc this thread would probably be no more than 20 pages long if it would have been here at all.

Unless you really know what you are doing, i think this is a bad idea. I wouldn't recommend anyone who doesn't know a heap about internet security, to open up their system to access from outside. You need to be sure that someone with malicious intent can't use the 'door' you've left open for your iPhone to access your server remotely.

Unless you understand the security issues properly, your data would be more secure using iCloud/Google/DropBox etc.

I think setting up your own server which can be accessed from the internet can easily leave you exposed on security issues as well as dependent on internet access to be able to sync - and these two issues tend to be the reasons why people do not want to use iCloud or other cloud-based services.

jayv. wrote:

 

Sincr USB Now wrote:

 

But Apple has decided to remove this option and break the bond of people and technology for everyone.

That's just rubbish. This thread may be 140 pages long but those that want USB syncing back (myself included) are still outnumbered by milions that are fine with using a cloud service to sync. If it wasn't for recent Snowden revelations about NSA, GCHQ etc etc this thread would probably be no more than 20 pages long if it would have been here at all.

I don't think a lot of 'normal users' have any idea what iCloud is about. There are loads of people in my office who are completely unaware of all of its functions and signed up on purchasing a new iDevice.

I might be wrong and may check later if possible but when you set up a new device and connect to iTunes does it default to sync over iCloud?

You get asked to set up an account or to sign in to an existing one but there is an option to skip this. Because of that first time setup there is no default really, it all depends on user choice.

Edit: Sorry, read your post a bit too quick. Through iTunes I am also not sure.

Edit 2: I recall iTunes handling activation and then telling you the phone is ready for use, the rest is done on the device itself.

Message was edited by: jayv.

May help if you define a 'normal' user. IYHO.

Thanks

Pete

"Normal user" are people who are learning to use technology. Not everyone has the same fate.

You can view this article on Information Literacy

http://www.unesco.org/new/en/communication-and-information/intergovernmental-pro grammes/information-for-all-programme-ifap/priorities/information-literacy/

Nonsense and an even more ridiculous link to try to back it up. If you cannot answer a question properly or with some inkling of intelligence on the matter, best you refrain or you end up looking desperate and clueless.

Best

Pete

I am happy to assist you in learning the term: Information Literacy. (That I knew long ago)

You should know that the term Digital divide also has years. UNESCO is an organization trying to think of all the culture of all people.

I'm not saying that iCloud is a bad idea. I'm just saying we have to think of all the people.

I try to think of all the people. And you? 

rubbish, this is not about Snowdon! Folks were concerned about privacy long before he reared his head.

AND it's not just about privacy, it's about convenience and the combo is deadly.

Most consumer companies and even business providers tout CONVENIENCE and FLEXIBILITY as selling points.  Somewhwere Apple lost sight of this, which is suprising in that it is imbedded in their brand DNA and design elements.

Manual sync was an exisiting option, nobody is asking for an expansion of options (ways to sync), just reinstate what we had.