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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by jayv.,

    jayv. jayv. Jan 17, 2014 9:47 AM in response to feinmeister
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    Jan 17, 2014 9:47 AM in response to feinmeister

    Apple is simply not known for going back on it's decisions. If they were we'd be stuck with a 3-inch thick macbook air today that has an optical drive, zip drive and possbly a floppy drive (gross exaggeration to make my point). As I said the USB sync is still present in Windows, it's not an iTunes limitation it's an OS X limitation. As the drivers and code to make this functionality happen take up less than a few MB at most it was not taken out of Mavericks to save space or just to annoy people, there had to be a good reason.

     

    If you think the recent headlines have nothing to do with this issue and the interest in it you are mistaken. I'm not saying that's the only reason but it's a big part of it. Of course people have been concerned with privacy even before Snowden. When most of the iSync functionality was replaced by .Mac there was not nearly such a big outcry about it as there is now.

  • by Sincr USB Now,

    Sincr USB Now Sincr USB Now Jan 17, 2014 10:30 AM in response to feinmeister
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    Jan 17, 2014 10:30 AM in response to feinmeister

    Feinmeister,

     

    You said a great truth. They have taken away things. What Works. What is the reason?

     

    There is another term: The Liquid Society (Liquid Modernity). Create instability and insecurity, permanent dissatisfaction to stimulate consumption. If you do not consume is not good for business. But consume twenty times and we are not twenty times happier.

     

    Of course we consume to improve our lives, but do not consume so exaggerated . We can save a lot of money not eating much , ie not changing operating system every two or three years. Technology gives us slowly everyone knows this.

     

    Now you will say Apple has a free operating system .... surprise! Instability but also makes you .... to change , you move ... and your data is in the cloud.

     

     

     

    Hello, Jayv

     

     

    Not by Snowden, is because more people learn Information Literacy and more people use the internet and computers.

  • by wiredancer,

    wiredancer wiredancer Jan 17, 2014 3:27 PM in response to feinmeister
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    Jan 17, 2014 3:27 PM in response to feinmeister

    Can I still trust Apple?

    ..... Apple took away the function of a product. They diminished the quality of iTunes. Apple has taken away the ability to locally sync contacts and calendar, between devices, which had existed numerous years, which people have integrated into their work and the way they manage their most private and voluble data.

    I have trusted Apple and relied on the quality of the products they are providing and selling. A loss of trust.

     


  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Jan 17, 2014 3:34 PM in response to wiredancer
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    Jan 17, 2014 3:34 PM in response to wiredancer

    Buy a Windows machine.

  • by wiredancer,

    wiredancer wiredancer Jan 17, 2014 3:41 PM in response to jayv.
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    Jan 17, 2014 3:41 PM in response to jayv.

    look..., the reason seems simple to me: Microsoft is pushing the cloud. they are investing big time in storage space in order to accommodate the big cloud boom. Microsoft has take the location for this sensitive storage to Dublin, away from US territory. So the hype is on and Apple is not gonna miss out on the promised big cloud business. I was asking myself, why was Maverick introduced for such a small fee? Was it Apples plan to get all the costumers over to iCloud as quickly as possible? As quick as possible, not giving them a chance to protest much.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 17, 2014 3:46 PM in response to wiredancer
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    Jan 17, 2014 3:46 PM in response to wiredancer

    Contact them and ask them. We are not privy to their decisions. Maybe the same reason they have changed other things over the last ten or more years. You won't find the reason out here in a user forum.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by DGobac,

    DGobac DGobac Jan 17, 2014 6:43 PM in response to KiltedTim
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    Jan 17, 2014 6:43 PM in response to KiltedTim

    So don't be paranoia, "they are doing 't anyway"? That's a great argument and it legalise a policy!!

     

    The point is: It is not a surprise when Microsoft or Android do the same, but I thought Apple stands for something else. I'm afraid that Apple only pretend to be different but goes on the same tour like Microsoft and Android (following). It is disappointing, even very disappointing. Just wondering whether Steve Jobs had agreed on it if he was still around? Continuing of such a policy is best way to brake down his legacy and to make Apple disappear in to big gray mass of mediocrity. 

     

    Image of Apple was the reason I purchased iPhon few years ago and MacBook recently. (And talking about many: for price of MacBook Pro you can buy 2 up to 3 comparable Windows laptops)

    At the moment I have felling that buying MacBook has been bad decision - I pay to much and didn't get what I was expecting, except one pricey gadget.

    And yes, you are right I was not forced to buy it - it was my own mistake. Only thing that I can do from now on is to prevent my friends, relatives and collages from making a same mistake.

     

    By the way: I'm wondering if anyone from Apple is following this discussion, if they care at all and if they are going to do something about it. (probably not)

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Jan 17, 2014 7:00 PM in response to DGobac
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    Jan 17, 2014 7:00 PM in response to DGobac

    Unfortunately no one here can help you get the feature returned. You need to contact Apple and leave feedback.

     

    Pete

  • by DGobac,

    DGobac DGobac Jan 18, 2014 2:05 AM in response to petermac87
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    Jan 18, 2014 2:05 AM in response to petermac87

    Any idea how / where can I get trough to Apple and leave feedback?

  • by jayv.,

    jayv. jayv. Jan 18, 2014 2:07 AM in response to DGobac
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    Jan 18, 2014 2:07 AM in response to DGobac
  • by applejpmc,

    applejpmc applejpmc Jan 18, 2014 3:00 AM in response to James Richards
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    Jan 18, 2014 3:00 AM in response to James Richards

    James, here's a new one on the Sync services issue...

     

    I have a new unused iPhone 5s - been avoiding using it for the last 2 months in the hope that Sync Services might get restored.

     

    Last night I set it up on my old (NOT Mavericks) MacBook Pro - Calendar and Contacts synced fine as always in the past through USB and iTunes. But Music......

     

    As I have a ton of music I keep the library on an external HD. Never been any problem till now for the MacBook Pro to access it.

     

    When I went to sync the music it was there. Then I was prompted to update the ios on the iphone (not the MacBook Pro to Mavericks). So, assuming this would be okay (wrongly) I clicked yes. Now there is no music on my new iPhone, will not sync and comes up with a screen telling my to go to the Store.

     

    I've never bought any music from iTunes - I buy CDs (maybe that is old fashioned but I prefer that I have something solid not just a vague thing in the ether).

     

    But from this either I've done something wrong in the set up or Apple have decided to stop anyone using music on their iPhones unless it is bought through Apples iTunes store!

     

    Additionally unless I copy the music off the external HD back onto my MacBook Pro I cannot access it through iTunes on that computer any more - the MacBook Pro cannot find or use it unless it is copied back onto the MacBook Pro (since updating the ios on the new iPhone.

     

    Another thing worth noting is that a new iPhone now comes with no instructions at all. The set up instructions when you turn it on make it IMPOSSIBLE - not just difficult to set up without agreeing to iCloud - it gives various options about agreeing to ios or icloud or a couple of other things. On the icloud I clicked 'disagree'. On the ios I clicked 'agree'.

     

    Then I found all iCloud options turned on and it took a lot of fiddling around to find where to turn it off - even now I'm not sure if iCloud is working in the background. As a result the phone is off and will stay in a drawer till I find if it is actually possible at all to set up a new iPhone without iCloud.

     

    I'm beginning to think it is not possible - any ideas on these 2 issues?

  • by ChrisW£,

    ChrisW£ ChrisW£ Jan 18, 2014 3:39 AM in response to applejpmc
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    Jan 18, 2014 3:39 AM in response to applejpmc

    Hi, you may want to wait for confirmation from others before doing this (I'm relatively new to Apple products) but my thoughts are, because you are not using the phone at the moment, try resetting it back to the factory default installation so that you can start again and decline the upgrade if it is offered again.

     

    On the Macbook iTunes, have you checked the database location in iTunes>Preferences>Advanced>iTunes Media Folder Location? Has it changed to point at the Macbook rather than your external hard drive?

     

    On another note, I suspect Mavericks has changed more than local sync; I am certain I did a Time Machine backup to my IOMEGA external drive when I first set up my MacBook. When I looked for it to do a restore to ML Time Machine reported that it could not find any compatible drives. I have since bought a Time Capsule and am delighted with it. At least Apple are still doing some things right.

     

     

    Chris.

  • by woodmeister50,

    woodmeister50 woodmeister50 Jan 18, 2014 5:14 AM in response to applejpmc
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    Jan 18, 2014 5:14 AM in response to applejpmc

    applejpmc wrote:

     

    Then I found all iCloud options turned on and it took a lot of fiddling around to find where to turn it off - even now I'm not sure if iCloud is working in the background. As a result the phone is off and will stay in a drawer till I find if it is actually possible at all to set up a new iPhone without iCloud. ....

    On the iPhone, go to Settings->iCloud and just turn off anything you

    don't want synced to iCloud.

     

    Also while your at it,  just turn off WiFi and turn off cellular data. 

    Having either on will leave a gateway open to anyone who really

    wants to get into  your phone.

     

    And for those who are concerned with various security requirements

    of different institutions, an iPhone and iPad themselves do not really meet the

    requirements of maintaining sensitive information on a secure and encrypted

    server and that is secure from theft.

  • by James Richards,

    James Richards James Richards Jan 18, 2014 6:21 AM in response to applejpmc
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    Jan 18, 2014 6:21 AM in response to applejpmc

    I'm sorry, but I've no ideas. I'm running an iPhone 3GS so the whole iOS7 thing is a completely closed book to me.

     

    There may be better threads than this to find an answer to your question.

  • by snozdop,

    snozdop snozdop Jan 18, 2014 7:11 AM in response to applejpmc
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    Jan 18, 2014 7:11 AM in response to applejpmc

    Apple have decided to stop anyone using music on their iPhones unless it is bought through Apples iTunes store!

     

    No, they haven't. Something has happened to the linking of your iTunes Library to the files on the external drive - nothing to do with iOS at all.

     

    a new iPhone now comes with no instructions at all.

     

    They never have. All iOS devices come with a small leaflet directing you to get the latest version of the User Guide from the Apple website.

     

    The set up instructions when you turn it on make it IMPOSSIBLE - not just difficult to set up without agreeing to iCloud

     

    Wrong. iCloud is entirely optional.

     

    it took a lot of fiddling around to find where to turn it off

     

    Two taps from the home screen... Settings > iCloud. Hardly "a lot of fiddling".

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