Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

You are mentioning other possibilities, didn't you?

Instaed of being irritated maybe you shoulkd read question correctly, Csound1!!!

ANY OTHER SOLUTION BESIDE EXCHANGE SERVERS AND CLOUD-like APPLICATIONS? (or purchising own private exchange server)

The answers have been posted over and over in this thread, please go back and read it thoroughly.

Look for Balkavi Server and OS X Server, both will allow syncing locally.

Csound1

Cloud and local syncing are two different things. You keep mixing the two. Some people just simply want to keep using local syncing, like they did for years. They don't want to use the other way, the Cloud. Why don't you understand that. This forum is about local syncing and about finding a solution, how to local sync. NOT iCloud!!!!! We already know that it's good.

If you are claiming the reason local sync was removed is due to a technical problem, then you either have nonpublic information which you aren't willing to share, or you're the one trolling a forum that has been exploring how to do local syncing.

I'm not claiming anything on Apple's behalf - I don't speak for them. I'm speaking from personal experience and knowledge of syncing in general, and the experiences of dozens of other developers involved in creating sync solutions that I've had discussions with. Conflict resolution is a nightmare. A quick search of programming forums will quickly confirm that.

I know, from reading developer mailing lists, that maintaining and expanding SyncServices was becoming impossible. It was old, proprietary code developed long before modern mobile devices. In those early days, most people had one phone and one computer (a relatively simple sync scenario) not multiple devices, in multiple locations, which can all sync simultaneously. The SyncServices framework simply isn't up to the task. Plus, it was a proprietary, closed, Apple-only framework. No other device or OS manufacturers use it, so there's no interoperability. All development, improvement and compatibility was down to Apple. Even to Apple proprietary doesn't make sense always.

CalDAV and CardDAV are open, cross-platform, industry standard protocols, used and improved by dozens (possibly hundreds) of OS and device manufacturers everywhere. It doesn't matter what device or OS you use - just enter the CalDAV & CardDAV server details and you've instantly got your contacts and calendars. There is only one copy of the data (on the server) so no "syncing" is necessary. Each device is just looking at the exact same data.

It's like 10 people all looking at the same painting. If anyone adds a tree to that painting they all see the change at the same time. The SyncServices way of doing thing is comparible to 10 people having copies of the original painting. Change the original painting and until you've made and distributed new copies to each person they are all out of date. Keeping their view of the painting up-to-date simultaneously is impossble.

Unfortunately, there is no comparable protocol for local (USB/WiFi/Bluetooth) syncing. As much as some people may not like it, and it might not be true for everyone, everywhere - the fact is the industry is moving towards wireless internet-wide connections, not towards local, wired connections.

It's highly unlikely in this day and age that yet another proprietary, wired sync protocol would gain any adoption by multiple manufacturers, and what would be the point in developing something for just one OS? Many people switch mobile devices quite regularly. Even if a cross-platform, OS independent protocol could be agreed upon, it takes years for standards committees to ratify them and for them to appear commercially. By then, even more people would have ubiquitous internet access.

None of this addreses the tin-foil hat brigade, who may have genuine concerns with storing data on remote servers, but anyone who thinks their data is safe if they only sync it locally, is very naive.

wiredancer wrote:

 

Csound1

 

Cloud and local syncing are two different things. You keep mixing the two.

I am not mixing them at all, if you actually read my posts I have said repeatedly that there is NO commercially available solution for local sync's removal from Mavericks

Read that line again, it says that there is NO local syncing anymore (unless you use one of the 2 methods previously proposed by Barney, in this thread)

Need to slightly correct you. There are many Blackberry phone users who have lost USB sync to Mac since mavericks, as Blackberry Desktop software uses Apple syncservices.  Blackberry link software will sync locally with Mavericks but only with BB10 phones.  So it was not just Apple to Apple.

I remember we also lost iSync since Lion.

We still manged to move on.

peter_watt wrote:

 

Need to slightly correct you.

Which part are you correcting, it's not at all clear?

Need to slightly correct you. [...] So it was not just Apple to Apple.

Correct me? Where? I never said it was "just Apple to Apple". SyncServices was an OS X framework though, that didn't exist in any other OS. However, it did allow syncing of non-Apple devices (this is prior to the iPhones release in 2007).

iSync was Apple's software sync solution for third-party phones (including Nokia, Sony Ericsson, Samsung, Motorola and others) which relied completely on SyncServices and SyncML. iSync was removed from OS X with the release of Mac OS X 10.7 at the same time Apple announced to developers that SyncServices was deprecated 2 and a half years ago.

Third-party developers have had over two years to come up with an alternative to SyncServices. Blackberry obviously didn't bother either. Perhaps they also see USB syncing as not worth persuing...

Hi snozdrop, in this thread you will often be 'corrected' for things you never said, and you will also be 'quoted' on things you never said.

It helps to keep alertness levels high

Hi Peter, let's keep things civil to prevent the thread from being deleted? Though you've made some excellent recent observations, some of which I couldn't have said better myself.

So has anyone come up with a fix, so i can share my Ph and Comp contacts.. i can not use i cloud, my contacts are private.. plus why would i want Apple to have a copy...

How can they be allowed to do this... so disapointed in Apple now..!!!!

Not the level of fix I think you might be after. There are a couple solutions, but ones that require legwork on your part and possible extra expense.

A waiting game at the mo.

Barney-15E has created a User Tip (https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6311) which enables you to run a CalDAV and CardDAV server on your own computer (just the regular machine that you normally use) and to sync directly between your iPhone and your computer without putting you data on the internet. It uses wifi either on your own home network or on an ad hoc network you set up using 'Create Network…' from your computer's WiFi menu. It takes a bit of work to set up but once you've done it it operates very easily. It's not a perfect solution to the loss of USB sync but IME it works pretty well. There's another shorter thread whic is focused on implementing this solution:

Link to the other thread: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5549736?tstart=0

[can't understand why editing facilities for Apple's forum are so crippled when using an Apple iPhone!]