Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I am with you  Mike - B

I've been active in the thread and the only 'option' (if you call it that) is to set up your own 'cloud' on a server (either via Mavericks Server or one of the 3rd parties mentioned.) I'm not super technical... but want my data synched w/o using the cloud. The cable was pretty easy and now I'm spending hours/days trying got get the server set up and running. Setting up a server just to synch contacts and calendar (notes) - is way over the top.

Rolling back iTunes to 10.7 works - for older iOS devices... so I gave that a go and worked on the iPhone 4, but 5S requires iTunes 11.

Rolling back to Mountain Lion is a heavy heavy cost... but yes an option. Anyone able to confirm if the new machines (I'm on a Macbook which came w/Mavericks pre-installed) will go backwards to Mountain Lion?

So rather than taunting people w/the same posts about there being more than one option listed in this 151+ page thread, put a little effort into the post w/some usefull instruction (links, context etc) - otherwise just wasting digital space and everyone's time.

Also - for others reading the post - this forum isn't about debating the merits of cloud vs. local synching. The forum is specifically about how to synch w/o the cloud (not to discuss the cloud or reasons why/why not to use/not use the cloud).

if you can't get either of Barney's methods working there are no others that do not involve a trip over the internet. If that is not acceptable to you then there are no sync methods available at all.

Go back to a previous version of OSX.

PixelRogue1 wrote:

 

Rolling back to Mountain Lion is a heavy heavy cost... but yes an option. Anyone able to confirm if the new machines (I'm on a Macbook which came w/Mavericks pre-installed) will go backwards to Mountain Lion?

 

Generally speaking I've heard that this is a no no. Something to do with a lack of drivers or something is a common reason touted.

What kind of heavy cost do you mean?

So rather than taunting people w/the same posts about there being more than one option listed in this 151+ page thread, put a little effort into the post w/some useful instruction (links, context etc) - otherwise just wasting digital space and everyone's time.

 

Also - for others reading the post - this forum isn't about debating the merits of cloud vs. local synching. The forum is specifically about how to synch w/o the cloud (not to discuss the cloud or reasons why/why not to use/not use the cloud).

Some people here are active to provide good feedback and will repeat themselves to that end. For others that seem to enjoy just trolling - nothing you can do. It's a public Internet forum and we live in a democracy, (most of us I'm assuming), this means they've a right to have a difference in opinion for as long as they like.

When they post, do not reply. You'll be able to recognise them by the number of posts with a negative tone directed toward them that are removed, they know who they are, generally there is no smoke without fire.

They are obnoxious.

At this moment in time we have to non iCloud solutions, if we want more we have to keep our eyes down and wait.

Gumsie,

Nicely said.

I would only add that for those people here who want local (non-cloud, non-third party, non-Internet) syncing between two devices that sit right next to each other, please send comments to Apple by using one or more of the following URL's:

http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

   aps

A good moment to repost and say there are only two non-internet solutions I am aware of:

(1) Barney-15E has created a User Tip (https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6311) which enables you to run a CalDAV and CardDAV server on your own computer (just the regular machine that you normally use) and to sync directly between your iPhone and your computer without putting you data on the internet. It uses wifi either on your own home network or on an ad hoc network you set up using 'Create Network…' from your computer's WiFi menu. It takes a bit of work to set up but once you've done it it operates very easily. It's not a perfect solution to the loss of USB sync but IME it works pretty well. There's another shorter thread whic is focused on implementing this solution: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5549736?tstart=0

And

(2) get Mavericks Server, for a moderate outlay, and set up the same sort of thing that way. It may be easier to do. Don't be discouraged py a few posts on this thread which suggest Apple deprecate that idea. I'm fairly sure they flow from mutual misunderstanding between client and Apple Adviser.

And if you're hoping for change make sure you post on the Apple feedback pages. This forum is only user-to-user, moderated by Apple if a user draws their attention to it, but otherwise only read by them by chance.

Hope this helps

James

Armando Stettner wrote:

 

Gumsie,

 

Nicely said.

 

I would only add that for those people here who want local (non-cloud, non-third party, non-Internet) syncing between two devices that sit right next to each other, please send comments to Apple by using one or more of the following URL's:

 

http://www.apple.com/feedback/itunesapp.html

 

http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

 

http://www.apple.com/feedback/iphone.html

 

http://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

 

   aps

Thankyou, forgot you can leave Mavericks feedback on the Mac App store too though.

I would like to point this interesting solution from rusty33m

1 - open contact on your Mac.

2 - select all yours contacts

3 - choose File > Export as vCard

4 - send this file to any mail account you can check from your iPad

5 - check your mail from your iPad and click the attached file.

6 - Contact will ask you to "merge" the contact ; if it find new contact it will ask if you want to create them.

From your iPad Contact you may send contacts one by one.

Same for Calendar : Don't forget to create your calendars if you use many on your iPad. During import, iPad will ask you to choose one.

I do not see how this is a solution as it will pass through mailservers which are by design less secure than iCloud, afaik. Potentially worse from a privacy standpoint would be using Yahoo, Gmail or Hotmail to send and receive this file.

If this is an acceptable solution for you then do yourself a favor and use iCloud as it is better integrated, works better, faster and more secure.

You got the point.

Apple decision give me headache

Yep, they are the two current verifed ones. I don't doubt there may be others but not for a while.

I was toying with buying Mavericks server as my experience with ML server was a good one. Ideally I'd like something easy to troubleshoot remotely which I suspect those two solutions may not be.

At the moment whilst saying that Mavericks seems really good in the short time I used it, I'm telling my friends and Family to hold off on 10.9 if this is an issue they care about.

Re: reverting to pre 10.9.

Use one of these to see if the model supports any previous OS's

http://mactracker.ca/

http://www.everymac.com/

Apple often force the latest OS on new models, when older ones can work with older OS's (sometimes). You will need to hack a copy of the installer & change some model strings to be able to install on an unsupported Mac. Or you may try cloning an entire disk over from a slightly older model (skipping the installer checks).

Needless to say this is all unsupported & may cause lots of work & headaches, sometimes there are drivers needed for new hardware features that only exist in the latest OS (like newer Wifi/ Bluetooth standards, GPU or hardware changes).

Frankly if it's a new Mac & you really need USB syncing take it back & ask for a refund - UK sales law says a device should be 'fit for purpose'. 10.9 changed that purpose with no publicised warning (or Apple only notified developers of the changes) so you may have a case for a refund or exchange for an older 10.8 compatible model. See your own sales laws for details on how to proceed.

@OAADKTBA,

That solution above is also not a sync, it gets really tough if you want to edit both ends of the data (e.g. you create contacts on your phone & on a computer, edit the same contact twice & you end up with multiple copies of fields or duplicate entire contacts. Export both ends & keep backups if you plan to do this often.

I'm good. Stil have a MP1,1. It's running a pre Mavericks release. I'm aware of the 'tactics' in use by AAPL, it's what fits their business model so that's up to them I suppose.

I do agree with your second paragraph though and if I was buying a new device, and was aware of the hardware differences between one model and the one that supercedes it I'd be informed enough to make my choice.

UK sales law says a device should be 'fit for purpose'.

It should be fit for the purpose it is advertised as being for - not for just any purpose you 'think' it should be fit for. If Apple sold it to you as being able to sync an iPhone via USB and you subsequently found it couldn't, then yes, you could demand a refund.

But Apple has made it clear that Macs running OS X 10.9 only support "sharing your information using several network-based and cloud-based solutions". So, you couldn't say a Mac sold with OS X 10.9 on was fit for the purpose of syncing via USB.

Apple delete my message but ok, got a mail with a hint to the forumguidlines, I am not allowed to post a link to a poll or petition.

Here again:

@Csound1 forget that. Apple never replies any feedback, it seems they disregard the feedback. It is a shame at all.

Try to make a light here... NOT ALLOWED URL - just search for the petition on the web, you will find that easy.