Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I am not selling anything, not ramming anything. If you want people to help we have to understand how you work,  and your way of working is definitely unusual. Thanks for explaining your unique problem, and chill ffs.

Peter

It may be unusual to you but it isn't to me or countless colleagues who work in exactly this way as it gives way more reliable results than the other way.

But why are 90% of the postings on this discussion about iCloud??????? Seems there are a lot of people who want to explain the virtues of iCloud to people who DO NOT WANT IT - after all that is what this discussion is about - isn't is?

I have zero interest in any cloud or similar system that is hosted on someone elses server.

SYNC without iCloud is what this discussion is about.

... if apple will not bring back local syncing, then my next phone will be non Apple.

At present I am using a first generation iPad, so I am in the market for a new Pad soon. But I guess I'll go for Samsung.

applejpm:

I agree 100 % !!!

What can we do? How can we talk to Apple? The FeedBack way, can't honestly be the solution? Pay them a visit in Copertino?

> ... if apple will not bring back local syncing, then my next phone will be non Apple.

As both Android and Windows phone don't support local syncing natively, what will you choose?

snozdop wrote:

 

> ... if apple will not bring back local syncing, then my next phone will be non Apple.

 

As both Android and Windows phone don't support local syncing natively, what will you choose?

That's far too relevant a response for this thread.

snozdop wrote:

 

> ... if apple will not bring back local syncing, then my next phone will be non Apple.

 

As both Android and Windows phone don't support local syncing natively, what will you choose?

I'm not sure where you're getting this information but there are numerous ways to sync an Android phone's contacts and calendar with Outlook. Use the app Android Sync which requires a local USB cable. Mark Space offers The Missing Sync USB sync application; something I used to use on Mac OS X years ago. You can also use CompanionLink and ClearSync, in addition to Google's cloud system.

Also, you can sync your iPhone's contacts & calendars on iTunes in Windows using a USB cable, which to me, is the best solution of all. I'm beginning to think that Apple left this path open specifically so those unable to use iCloud sync for legal or other key reasons still had a way to sync. It beats having to use an Android phone...

Matt is right, for example Samsung phones use Kies which syncs contacts & calendars across multiple platforms via USB.

Windows phone 8 has 3rd party options for USB sync, whilst not 'native' at least users have a choice, unlike Mavericks users.

You said it best earlier snozdrop…

snozdop wrote:

 

Please educate yourself:

http://www.samsung.com/uk/support/usefulsoftware/KIES/JSP

You come across as very arrogant and condensending and a shill for Apple. This thread is about trying to do what we used to do "syncing" before sync services was dropped. There are people like the Defector that has been helpful. You, not so much. What is the matter with you? Do you just argue and act like a know it all in real world or just here.

PW, you have quite the arrogance to determine what is "unusual".

sandozer. Yikes.

Stopping email notification on this thread and opening up a new one I ask you and your attitude to aviod, Thank you.

SomePlaceWarm wrote:

 

Stopping email notification on this thread and opening up a new one I ask you and your attitude to aviod, Thank you.

Hey SPW, keep an eye on this one, it's length makes it draw more attention I think. If you find anybody not worth your time then make sure that you don't give them your time. Any of it. Don't even go so far as to acknowledge ignorant sarcastic Fanbois and you'll be fine.

Go back to a previous version of OSX, one that has SyncServices.

FYI. I never said anything about 'unusual' did you not notice who did and just assumed that it was me?

SomePlaceWarm:

... I think you're right.

If people like "snozdop" would at least write accurate posts, that would help. but it looks like they haven't a clue. I have a few friends that sync Samsung devices locally no problem, so I guess it must be possible. plus, my friends have a choice. With Apple there is no more local sync, all the suggestions, so far need computer programming skills.

Cloud is good for many, but many others can not or don't want to use Cloud. We are waiting for solutions. This is what this thread should be all about and it should not be a propaganda platform for iCloud

There are now three non-internet solutions I am aware of, although I know they are not right for everyone. I'm posting them again for the sake of keeping them visible on the thread:

(1) Barney-15E has created a User Tip (https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6311) which enables you to run a CalDAV and CardDAV server on your own computer (just the regular machine that you normally use) and to sync directly between your iPhone and your computer without putting you data on the internet. It uses wifi either on your own home network or on an ad hoc network you set up using 'Create Network…' from your computer's WiFi menu. It takes a bit of work to set up but once you've done it it operates very easily. It's not a perfect solution to the loss of USB sync but IME it works pretty well. There's another shorter thread whic is focused on implementing this solution:https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5549736?tstart=0

or

(2) get Mavericks Server, for a moderate outlay, and set up the same sort of thing that way. It may be easier to do. Don't be discouraged py a few posts on this thread which suggest Apple deprecate that idea. I'm fairly sure they flow from mutual misunderstanding between client and Apple Adviser.

and

(3) ownCloud now works with Mavericks and provides another way for you to set up your own server "internally": http://michaelgracie.com/2013/11/13/getting-ios-7-calendar-and-contacts-syncing- directly-with-os-x-10-9-mavericks/

And if you're hoping for change make sure you post on the Apple feedback pages. This forum is only user-to-user, moderated by Apple if a user draws their attention to it, but otherwise only read by them by chance.

Hope this helps

James

@ James -

many thanks for assembling the present solutions together for us! This is extraordinary helpful in this ... hopefully soon, but at the moment seemingly neverending ... thread.

FWIW I set up the Baïkal sever option soon after Barney-15E posted his User Tip, and it's been running seamlessly but for one trivial (but irritating at the time)!glitch since then.

I know it takes a bit of work to set up, but I'm not a programmer or any kind of IT professional, just a SOHO user who's been using Macs for a long time. So for users for whom this is the right solution, I think many could implement one of these (they are essentially slightly different routes to a very similar end). I'm still not happy with Apple's decision, and I've had to change aspects of my workflow in ways which are less good for me than before, but this does work over my home and other WiFi networks or on a direct ad hoc WiFi link between my Mac an my iPhone so syncing itself is as easy as plugging in was before the change.