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  • Meg St._Clair Level 8 Level 8 (43,800 points)

    Armando Stettner wrote:

     

    Let's just move on.  Frankly, I see no reason for this thread to continue unless and until somebody comes up with a good way of syncing these native Apple apps.

    You are free to move on and stop participating in this thread should you so chose. Others may decide to continue the discussion/arguement here.

     

    Best of luck.

  • Armando Stettner Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    Meg St._Clair wrote:

     

    Armando Stettner wrote:

     

    Let's just move on.  Frankly, I see no reason for this thread to continue unless and until somebody comes up with a good way of syncing these native Apple apps.

    You are free to move on and stop participating in this thread should you so chose. Others may decide to continue the discussion/arguement here.

     

    Best of luck.

     

    Wow.  Thank you for explaining my rights.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (5,980 points)

    You are welcome.

     

    Pete

  • James Richards Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    James Richards

    Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

    While I know they are not right for everyone, there are now three non-internet workarounds/ solutions I am aware of, although I know they are not right for everyone. I'm posting them again for the sake of keeping them visible on the thread for any visitors:

     

    (1) Barney-15E has created a User Tip (https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6311) which enables you to run a CalDAV and CardDAV server on your own computer (just the regular machine that you normally use) and to sync directly between your iPhone and your computer without putting you data on the internet. It uses wifi either on your own home network or on an ad hoc network you set up using 'Create Network…' from your computer's WiFi menu. It takes a bit of work to set up but once you've done it it operates very easily. It's not a perfect solution to the loss of USB sync but IME it works pretty well. There's another shorter thread whic is focused on implementing this solution:https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5549736?tstart=0

    or

    (2) get Mavericks Server, for a moderate outlay, and set up the same sort of thing that way. It may be easier to do. Don't be discouraged py a few posts on this thread which suggest Apple deprecate that idea. I'm fairly sure they flow from mutual misunderstanding between client and Apple Adviser.

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    (3) ownCloud now works with Mavericks and provides another way for you to set up your own server "internally": http://michaelgracie.com/2013/11/13/getting-ios-7-calendar-and-contacts-syncing- directly-with-os-x-10-9-mavericks/

    And if you're hoping for change make sure you post on the Apple feedback pages. This forum is only user-to-user, moderated by Apple if a user draws their attention to it, but otherwise only read by them by chance.

     

    Hope this helps

     

    James

  • hubertusbe Level 1 Level 1 (10 points)

    Armando Stettner wrote:

     

    I fail to see why this thread has turned into the bitter battle field it's become.

     

    Thanks Armando!

     

    All over the world hundreds of real battle fields, and inside millions of internet forums further battle fields - luxury ones.

     

    I don't get that either.

     

    What's furthermore so sad and extraordinarily unbearable: those extremly clever back seat drivers spreading their wisdom instead of treating others with respect, decency and tolerance ...

     

    Might be a reason for battle fields.

  • snozdop Level 5 Level 5 (5,800 points)

    The hilarity continues snozdop. In a forum now exceeding 150 pages from people interested in local syncing, you continue to spout this nonsense.

     

    What nonsense would that be then ndawg? Are you another of these people who likes making things up? Tell me what I've posted that isn't factually correct, Mr Trollmeister.

     

    You must really hate the fact that people still use these luddite things called flash drives.

     

    Are you smoking something? What on earth have flash drives got to do with this thread? You're talking absolute nonsense, spouting completely unrelated tripe. 100% troll behavior.

     

    You have no knowledge of Apple's thinking

     

    This change was planned over 2.5 years ago. It wasn't an overnight decision. I read their developer documentation announcing the plan to remove the SyncServices API back in 2011. So, yes, I did know their thinking, thank you.

     

    Anyone with a brain would realise that Apple would not remove a feature if they didn't think it was the right thing to do and the right time to do it.

  • snozdop Level 5 Level 5 (5,800 points)

    Any developers on here that can confirm if 10.9.2 Beta is fixing this?

     

    Nope, we cannot confirm or deny anything due to the NDA Apple requires all developers given access to pre-release versions of OS X to sign preventing discussing it publicly.

  • Playfoot Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    I continue to read this post in order to hopefully learn a solution to the titled issue suitable for an enterprise.  For while the window has closed on Apple this time, in five or ten years, there may be another opportunity.  And I do think Apple offers many good soutions. 

     

    In response the the question regarding laws posed by Gumsie, most countries and regions have much more stringent regulations with respect to privacy than does the US.  For example, the EU and many countries in Asia (NOTE this is not an NSA issue)

     

    In general terms, it must be an informed "opt in" to either email advertising or hosting of confidential information on third party servers.  In real terms this means we MUST ask everyone if we may send emails - not ask if they do NOT want to receive emails.  No response means we can not send emails. 

     

    For confidential information, from contract terms to personal details, we must receive written consent for storage on servers outside of our control - something we can not do retroactively given the scope and scale.  To do so going forward would essentially be a red flag to many clients put a spanner in the works. 

     

    So, while a good process for the individual, Cloud syncing does not work for enterprise in many regions globally.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (41,830 points)

    Playfoot wrote:

     

    So, while a good process for the individual, Cloud syncing does not work for enterprise in many regions globally.

    Do you really believe that Enterprise users actually rely on a free consumer system for communications, contact management and scheduling?

  • Playfoot Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    CS, as you are so fond of asking people to clearly read what was written, please re-read what I wrote.  Did I advocate a free system?  I merely was answering a question about legality posed by Gumsie.

  • gumsie Level 4 Level 4 (2,150 points)

    Playfoot wrote:

     

    I continue to read this post in order to hopefully learn a solution to the titled issue suitable for an enterprise.  For while the window has closed on Apple this time, in five or ten years, there may be another opportunity.  And I do think Apple offers many good soutions.

    You and me both.

     

    In response the the question regarding laws posed by Gumsie, most countries and regions have much more stringent regulations with respect to privacy than does the US.  For example, the EU and many countries in Asia (NOTE this is not an NSA issue)

     

    In general terms, it must be an informed "opt in" to either email advertising or hosting of confidential information on third party servers.  In real terms this means we MUST ask everyone if we may send emails - not ask if they do NOT want to receive emails.  No response means we can not send emails. 

     

    For confidential information, from contract terms to personal details, we must receive written consent for storage on servers outside of our control - something we can not do retroactively given the scope and scale.  To do so going forward would essentially be a red flag to many clients put a spanner in the works. 

     

    So, while a good process for the individual, Cloud syncing does not work for enterprise in many regions globally.

    I see the point you are making and admit that it has some validity. I'm just wondering though if it applies. If they put you in the cloud with no warning then yes it's wrong but in this instance it appears they've taken away the facility and left you with a cloud only option. I see that as different.

  • tekknosaurus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    my 2 cents.

     

    All in all against the trolls:

     

    there are just "workarounds".

     

    1. Mavericks Server: I don´t want that. I try to run it with ML Server, doesn´t work stable in my case.

    2. owncloud: could be an option, but who of you runs an own server?

    3. webdav with whatever (baikal, etc). needs lots of setup or administration.

    4. wait for an 3rd party and sending your vcards with email to the iphone (or via directsync) to import - non bidirectional but works. works with calendar too, you can google to how to set up the calendar (login to icloud, put on the cals, logout from icloud, import possible something like that)

     

    All these workarounds are extremely inconvenient.

     

    But all in all it is impertinent from apple to cut a service working all the years. There are no "sorry" and no implementation of a better sync-service. btw no normal user can know that this service was on the death-list.

     

    Like 1000s of other users - I was more then suprised after the first days that the sync doesn´t work anymore. And I am informed - I read daily all the technical news stuff - found NOTHING before upgrading to Mavericks about the missing sync.

     

    And there is no understanding for me why Apple don´t implementing another sync service. It have to be politics to push us in the icloud and don´t let us choose the way of syncing personal informations.

     

    Anyway - to the new people searching help in this thread: keep away from many trolls out there. 

     

    2 things are important:

     

    - You can use one of the crutches and wait what happens from Apple (could be nothing) or 3rd party

     

    - It is absolute senseless to discuss the facts, the what and why - Apple are the dictator: kill the sync, said nearly nothing about and push all to icloud. No more and no less.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (5,980 points)

    Or you could reinstall your previous OSX from your backup and continue to use local sync with your old System set up. That seems to be easier than the methods you mentioned, unless there is some 'must have' reason that you require Mavericks. Many others have done this successfully here in the forums.

     

    Pete

  • gumsie Level 4 Level 4 (2,150 points)

    Yep, at the moment it's stuck between a rock and a hard place for some.

    Without wanting to sound like one of that species you mention that's a sizeable block of text upon which your'll be patronised and pilloried by them.

     

    Sooner or later one will come along and suggest, (for the nth time), that you go back to an older OS, (never mind the fact that support for it will be ending soon or already has done).

    Then you'll be asked what a 'normal user' is. On this point it's a matter of perception but I wholeheartedley agree.

     

    Etcetera, etcetera........

     

    Keep the feedback coming.

  • petermac87 Level 5 Level 5 (5,980 points)

    gumsie wrote:

     

    (never mind the fact that support for it will be ending soon or already has done).

     

    I didn't see that article. Is there a link to that? I would be interested in reading it.

     

    Thanks for the info.

     

    Pete