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  • Playfoot Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    Gumsie, thank you for your reply.

     

    I must admit to being a little confused.  I belive you are speaking in reference to the impact of a decision to remove a service as it relates to the law?  If not, forgive my understanding. 

     

    Unfortunately, the impact of Apple's decision does not have any impact on the law:  neither we nor anyone can use any Cloud service beyond our control.

     

    When you refer to "they" I assume you mean Apple.  While many of its decisions to remove hardware, such as the floppy or optical drive, were almost prescient in scope it does have a negative impact on Apple's ability to enter enterprise solutions.  As I noted in earlier posts, none of the Apple staff assisting with our pilot nor the genious bar were aware of the decision to deprecate local sync.  While we do not rely soley on sync, we do have Exhange and other software solutions, we do have a need in specific regions/applicaitons for sync.

     

    At the very least this raises concerns going forward about backward compatibility and support (no pun intended).  As I am certain you can imagine consistency, or at least the impression thereof, is paramount to business when making investment in platforms.  Ultimately, this was a disappointment as I think despite many issues that required us to retain third party solutions, for example when comparing BB encryption to iPhone, Apple is on the right track . .  . sort of.  Having said all that, I do not begrudge Apple as I think individual users are by far their biggest focus.

  • tekknosaurus Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    tekknosaurus wrote:

     

    my 2 cents.

     

    All in all against the trolls:

     

    there are just "workarounds".

     

    1. Mavericks Server: I don´t want that. I try to run it with ML Server, doesn´t work stable in my case.

    2. owncloud: could be an option, but who of you runs an own server?

    3. webdav with whatever (baikal, etc). needs lots of setup or administration.

    4. wait for an 3rd party and sending your vcards with email to the iphone (or via directsync) to import - non bidirectional but works. works with calendar too, you can google to how to set up the calendar (login to icloud, put on the cals, logout from icloud, import possible something like that)

     

    All these workarounds are extremely inconvenient.

     

    Right, I forgot some and complete the list:

     

    1. Mavericks Server: I don´t want that. I try to run it with ML Server, doesn´t work stable in my case.

    2. owncloud: could be an option, but who of you runs an own server?

    3. webdav with whatever (baikal, etc). needs lots of setup or administration.

    4. wait for an 3rd party and sending your vcards with email to the iphone (or via directsync) to import - non bidirectional but works. works with calendar too, you can google to how to set up the calendar (login to icloud, put on the cals, logout from icloud, import possible something like that)

    5. Recover to previous OS (if not too much time and date are in between changed like on my system)

    6. use Exchange (strange! but works!)

    7. Use a VM with Outlook / iTunes for Windows (strange too! but works!)

    8. go back to paper.

     

    And again: All these workarounds are extremely inconvenient.

  • gumsie Level 4 Level 4 (2,150 points)

    Playfoot wrote:

     

    Gumsie, thank you for your reply.

     

    I must admit to being a little confused.  I belive you are speaking in reference to the impact of a decision to remove a service as it relates to the law?  If not, forgive my understanding.

    I am.

     

     

    When you refer to "they" I assume you mean Apple.  While many of its decisions to remove hardware, such as the floppy or optical drive, were almost prescient in scope it does have a negative impact on Apple's ability to enter enterprise solutions.  As I noted in earlier posts, none of the Apple staff assisting with our pilot nor the genious bar were aware of the decision to deprecate local sync.  While we do not rely soley on sync, we do have Exhange and other software solutions, we do have a need in specific regions/applicaitons for sync.

     

    At the very least this raises concerns going forward about backward compatibility and support (no pun intended).  As I am certain you can imagine consistency, or at least the impression thereof, is paramount to business when making investment in platforms.  Ultimately, this was a disappointment as I think despite many issues that required us to retain third party solutions, for example when comparing BB encryption to iPhone, Apple is on the right track . .  . sort of.  Having said all that, I do not begrudge Apple as I think individual users are by far their biggest focus.

    I agree. Apple it seems do not really want to be a massive force in Enterprise, and there is nothing wrong in that if their business model dictates it.

  • brollyjohn Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    This app also just came out claiming the ability to locally sync contacts without the cloud.

     

    http://www.applgasm-apps.com/directsync.html

     

    Anyone tried this out? Lack of info is a little... off-putting.

     

    Exporting .vcf files doesn't replace local sync.

  • peter_watt Level 3 Level 3 (905 points)

    What happened to the last few posts that were deleted? Can't think what I said wrong, unless it was mentioning the Redmond based company. Didn't get a mail from the forum cops (this time).

  • Microsoft Defector Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Brollyjohn,

     

    I have it and it works fine. It doesn't consolidate contacts between platforms, but it does allow you to push or pull contacts to/from your iDevices and a computer running iTunes. I keep a master set of contacts on my mac, so when I create new contacts on my iDevices, I use DirectSync to pull them off, load them on my mac, consolidate them there, then push that back to all of my iDevices. Works just the way I want, but some here will point out that this is not "actually" a sync operation.

  • KiltedTim Level 8 Level 8 (44,970 points)

    If you responded to an earlier post that was deleted for cause, your reply was deleted along with the original.

  • Armando Stettner Level 2 Level 2 (205 points)

    Microsoft Defector wrote:

     

    Brollyjohn,

     

    I have it and it works fine. It doesn't consolidate contacts between platforms, but it does allow you to push or pull contacts to/from your iDevices and a computer running iTunes. I keep a master set of contacts on my mac, so when I create new contacts on my iDevices, I use DirectSync to pull them off, load them on my mac, consolidate them there, then push that back to all of my iDevices. Works just the way I want, but some here will point out that this is not "actually" a sync operation.

    How does it handle, if it does at all, updates/changes to existing contacts you make on your iOS device?  Do you export everything to vCards or do you have to keep track, etc.??  Does it handle calendar events?  Again, updates/changes, etc.??

  • peter_watt Level 3 Level 3 (905 points)

    It obviously doesnt do a two way sync, but there are several on here, someplacewarm for example, who are looking for just that Mac master push workflow. I still think it is not mainstrream but there is obviously some demand.

  • peter_watt Level 3 Level 3 (905 points)

    ""If you responded to an earlier post that was deleted for cause, your reply was deleted along with the original.""

     

    That's ten minutes of my life I'll never get back. Thanks forum cops.

  • Microsoft Defector Level 1 Level 1 (5 points)

    Armando,

     

    Everything is done using vCards. You can pull all of your contacts off of your iDevice, and push some or all of your contacts to your iDevice over USB using iTunes File Sharing. I keep one consolidated contact database on my mac that I update and push to all of my iDevices, so this works great for me. But if you want to automatically exchange incremental changes to contacts on multiple iDevices at once, this won't do that. It's been my experience that nothing (including the former local sync or iCloud) does a good job at this. You often wind up with missed updates or duplicate contacts. I prefer having more control over the data, its privacy, and its security.

     

    It only address contacts, not calendar. But I've seen on this thread that the developers are looking at expanding it to support calendar as well.

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (43,380 points)

    tekknosaurus wrote:

     

    6. use Exchange (strange! but works!)

    Neither strange or inconvenient. Exchange is the most widely used sync system (secure sync system) in existence, and with 20 years of development it is very reliable. It's HIPAA compliant (for those with privacy concerns) and if it was free it would be perfect. But it is not free.

  • wiredancer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    could you specify the "Exchange" idea? is it an App? what's the exact name, as I can not find it in the App store

  • Csound1 Level 8 Level 8 (43,380 points)

    Exchange, full name Microsoft Exchange. It will not be in the app store so google it.

     

    This link has the basic info

     

    Your Mac and your iDevices are compatible with it, but you must pay for the service, usually monthly (or host your own server, which I do not recommend unless you know what you are doing)

  • wiredancer Level 1 Level 1 (0 points)

    thanks.

    is it compatible with Apple products?

    .... I'll look it up.. thanks