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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Feb 15, 2014 10:47 PM in response to TopSteve
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    Feb 15, 2014 10:47 PM in response to TopSteve

    You are posting nothing helpful to anyone. Just repeating yourself. If you have nothing new or constructive to add, don't worry too much about replying to me. I'm sleeping very well thanks.

     

    Pete

  • by Playfoot,

    Playfoot Playfoot Feb 15, 2014 10:53 PM in response to Yule
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    Feb 15, 2014 10:53 PM in response to Yule

    All concerned,

     

    As have made previously known we made our decision.  However, as I do think there are many many things Apple does well, I continue, from time to time, to read this post in the hopes of discovering a solution. 

     

    Yule raised a good question that was seemingly never answered:  how and why does music and pictures, it seems, continue to be transfered locally by USB?  Why is it not possible for contacts and calendars? 

     

    Another question:  can the syncing via the cloud be set to specific times of the day or when only WiFi is available so as NOT to use mobile data?  As one can imagine, roaming internationally can add a tremendous amount of cost to the mobile.  Or can syncing be ON or OFF?  That is when roaming and NO WiFi turn off sync? 

     

    A bit off topic, but still in the "ball park".  Thank you.

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Feb 15, 2014 11:00 PM in response to petermac87
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    Feb 15, 2014 11:00 PM in response to petermac87

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    If you need hardware to function with particular software, then buy the appropriate hardware. You can choose to stay with an old 3G if you wish, just don't expect it to be supported forever. Same with laptops, desktops, iPads.............(oops, I won't repeat myself)

     

    Pete

    To answer you I have to repeat my self  I am sorry for that but your post demands an answer.  So as I replayed to  Chirs if you don't want "Ad Nauseam" replays/answers don't keep posting in ways that demand them. 

     

    I will try and answer this post in a very clear way.  Your post has three points as far as I can see:

     

    1) My hardware dose function with particular software namely "SyncServices"(iSync.app) it is getting (iSync.app) and there is no understandable resin as to why this software was removed from the Operating system.  It's existence in the OS would not have interfered with any other part of the OS nor any service like iCloud.  My gole is to make a replacement to this as it is quite clear that Apple will not.  This is why I posted here in the first place I thought I would find people who could share there experiences and knowledge gained in the persoute of the same gols.

     

    2) Instead of finding people who would like to help I find 3 of the most active people just post Ad Nauseam.  Don't try and do what you want because...... or Buy the appropriate hardware.

     

    3) Buy the appropriate hardware.   I assume you mean as in one other of your posts upgrade my phone.  Well that is very easy to say if you have the money to do that and it dose not address some of the other points I rasided in other posts.

     

    So if you can't help with the indever to find an answer to "How to local sync" then don't bother to post so I am not compeled to wast my time answer these unhelpfull posts.

     

    Now I'm am going to see if I can find an answer.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Feb 15, 2014 11:14 PM in response to TopSteve
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    Feb 15, 2014 11:14 PM in response to TopSteve

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    1) My hardware dose function with particular software namely "SyncServices"(iSync.app) it is getting (iSync.app) and there is no understandable resin as to why this software was removed from the Operating system. 


    It's gone. Understand? Phased out. No longer here. Finito.

     

    2) Instead of finding people who would like to help I find 3 of the most active people just post Ad Nauseam.  Don't try and do what you want because...... or Buy the appropriate hardware.

     

    Yes, YOU and which other two?

     

    3) Buy the appropriate hardware.   I assume you mean as in one other of your posts upgrade my phone.  Well that is very easy to say if you have the money to do that and it dose not address some of the other points I rasided in other posts.

     

    If you want the latest setup, it costs you. If you don't have the money to update your phone then you should not have updated to a system that does not support it. That was your choice.

     

    So if you can't help with the indever to find an answer to "How to local sync" then don't bother to post so I am not compeled to wast my time answer these unhelpfull posts.

     

    You don't have to answer. You just insist on it. And each of your replies contains the same, ill informed info.

     

     

    Pete

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Feb 15, 2014 11:17 PM in response to TopSteve
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    Feb 15, 2014 11:17 PM in response to TopSteve

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    Now I'm am going to see if I can find an answer.

    What answer? The only thing close to an answer are the options given within this thread. Read them. Perhaps use them. But there is currently no answer to the resolution you seek.

     

    Good luck in your quest.

     

    Pete

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Feb 16, 2014 12:28 AM in response to mori-muc
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    Feb 16, 2014 12:28 AM in response to mori-muc

    mori-muc wrote:

     

    I am just checking possibilities and depending on your knowledge and needs until now i found ...

     

    Solution A) a local running Server and/or Intranet Server


    1. Owncloud - https://owncloud.com


    2. OS X Server
 ( via AppStore & not for free! )

    3. Open Source Part of OS X Server: http://trac.calendarserver.org

    How to´s: http://www.ronregev.com/misc/pim_server_tutorial/

     

     

    Solution B) a local running Software / App

    1. syncmate -> still NOT ready for Mavericks but they work on a solution !!!

    - € 36 -> https://itunes.apple.com/de/app/syncmate-plus/id423327943

    While I was watting for OSX server to install I had another look at this list and other places and I these are the best options so far... I'v tryed "Owncloud" it looks very good and even had a Notes part but I could not get the Notes to work but eveything else worked.

  • by snozdop,

    snozdop snozdop Feb 16, 2014 2:50 AM in response to gumsie
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    Feb 16, 2014 2:50 AM in response to gumsie

    Do some research and you'll see there's a difference between 'accounts' and 'users'.

     

    I actually did "do some research" - I've seen nothing to show you have. Try practising what you preach and post any links you can find disputing the figures in the links I posted. You might then gain a little credibility.

     

    I believe Apple stated the number was accounts.

     

    Apple has used both "accounts" and "users" at various times when referring to iCloud. But feel free to post any links providing verifiable figures showing how many iCloud "accounts" don't have a "user".

     

    You can't dispute something without providing a shred of evidence to support your claim.

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Feb 16, 2014 3:16 AM in response to snozdop
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    Feb 16, 2014 3:16 AM in response to snozdop

    snozdop wrote:

     

    Do some research and you'll see there's a difference between 'accounts' and 'users'.

     

    I actually did "do some research" - I've seen nothing to show you have. Try practising what you preach and post any links you can find disputing the figures in the links I posted. You might then gain a little credibility.

    Ok, so maybe you missed it? So here's something at 2:15:31PDT. I'm quite sure in the keynote they did say accounts too. I did actually get it from here initially but have it no longer. Will look for it again and post links to the actual video if I find it.

     

    snozdop wrote:

     

    Apple has used both "accounts" and "users" at various times when referring to iCloud. But feel free to post any links providing verifiable figures showing how many iCloud "accounts" don't have a "user".

     

    You can't dispute something without providing a shred of evidence to support your claim.

    See above. I'm looking only at the info based around the 320,000,000 figure that keeps being bandied around by those that seem to have nothing other to say than a patronising, Restore from the backup you made, or You have the choice to go elsewhere, and seem to repeat ad nauseum that others are repeating ad nauseum. It's like a tag team match.

    (The figure will have changed by today of course).

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Feb 16, 2014 3:21 AM in response to gumsie
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    Feb 16, 2014 3:21 AM in response to gumsie

    Post some attribution for your claims,  you keep making them but never back them up.

     

    Time to **** or get off the pot.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Feb 16, 2014 3:22 AM in response to gumsie
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    Feb 16, 2014 3:22 AM in response to gumsie

    And your technical advice to readers within that thread was ??

    Sorry, it seemed to be lost in post somewhere.

     

    Thanks

     

    Pete

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Feb 16, 2014 3:51 AM in response to gumsie
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    Feb 16, 2014 3:51 AM in response to gumsie

    Ha ha. Brilliant.

    Tag teamed just like I said earlier.

     

    After this I'll go back to not acknowledging stupid posts as I'm having a hard time mustering enough respect to divide out in any meaningful quantity to those that I don't feel deserve  it.

     

    But seriously - Straw poll, anecdotal evidence, seat of the pants meter, whatever you want to call it. A vast proportion of the people here, (not just in this thread), are not hugely computer savvy. Some are complete newbies.

     

    They come here looking for solutions and may post something along the lines of, 'Hi have changed OS and it's broken how do I roll back?'

     

    Can the two of you simply not see how patronising, rude and offensive, (a lot end up feeling that the forum is not a nice place to go after a terse response and have posted as such to you), if the first thing you post is, 'Restore from the back up you made' ? I'm sure there are more people that don't regularly back than there are those that do, jeez I know people that have never backed up their iPhone and then it fails and they lose everything and are sorry.

     

    You couldn't even say, Hi welcome to the board, first and most importantly do you have a backup? There's a world of difference between the two approaches even if they end up with the same result. There are plenty of people on this board who are a truly brilliant source of info. I hate to name drop but Linc Davis, his replies are extremely factual and accurate and he posts the kind of things you like to read because you can learn from them, he doesn't go overboard on the niceties but he's never ever rude.

    Linc I apologise for bringing your name into this thread.

     

    Please, if you take nothing else on board please take on board the above two paragraphs and not be so nasty unless you really feel you need to.

    Feel free to be nasty to me. I can take it.

     

    Thanks.

     

    David Ouche

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Feb 16, 2014 3:57 AM in response to gumsie
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    Feb 16, 2014 3:57 AM in response to gumsie

    gumsie wrote:

    It's OK if you fail to verify or attribute anything you say, in most cases it is the standard for this thread.

     

    Plus it helps us to understand that you are just making it all up.

     

    Stupid post over, no need to respond.

  • by snozdop,

    snozdop snozdop Feb 16, 2014 4:04 AM in response to gumsie
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    Feb 16, 2014 4:04 AM in response to gumsie

    I'm quite sure in the keynote they did say accounts too.

     

    I'm not disputing that Apple has said accounts. They've also said users. You keep disputing the 320m figure - yet provide zero evidence that the figure is wrong. If you are sure that the 320m figure does not mean "users" then please provide some proof.

     

    I've just watched the WWDC 2013 keynote from 8 months ago (before the 320m figure was released). Tim Cook did say "We've now passed 300 million iCloud accounts" and then immediately talks about iTunes in the Cloud (a feature of iCloud) and states "we now have 300m users of this feature".

     

    Listen to Tim Cook himself on YouTube from 1:00:25 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRmjUzcpLO0

     

    It's quite clear that Apple uses "accounts" and "users" interchangably. If Apple have 300m users of a feature of iCloud, then there must be at least 300m iCloud users and therefore accounts.

     

    If you have evidence to show how many of those 300m accounts, are not used, I'd be happy to read it.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Feb 16, 2014 4:03 AM in response to gumsie
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    Feb 16, 2014 4:03 AM in response to gumsie

    Still no technical input or on topic comments gumsie? You are certainly not adding anything to the thread (as usual)

     

    Thanks dearly

     

    Pete

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Feb 16, 2014 4:14 AM in response to gumsie
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    Feb 16, 2014 4:14 AM in response to gumsie

    gumsie

    Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

    Feb 13, 2014 1:41 AM (in response to imac_user_since_AppleII_in1982)

    Trust me that headline figure will always be spouted by those ignorant zealots that don't understand figures and statistics. iCloud does not have and never has had 320 million users. They need to get their facts straight and stop trolling.

     

     

    Hmmmmm........ And those sorts of responses (that's only one of many) from Mr. 'Be polite to everyone please'? A touch hypocritical me thinks.

     

    Pete

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