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Feb 16, 2014 9:07 PM in response to petermac87by Skakagrall,Most of Matt Scultz's comments have now been removed. That's unfortunate. It doesn't help in addressing this issue.
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Feb 16, 2014 9:36 PM in response to Skakagrallby petermac87,Skakagrall wrote:
Most of Matt Scultz's comments have now been removed. That's unfortunate. It doesn't help in addressing this issue.
To have his posts removed or edited by the hosts then he or she must have broken the Terms Of Use he agreed to when he joined the site. The same TOU we have all agreed to.
Pete
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Feb 16, 2014 11:30 PM in response to petermac87by TopSteve,I had a post removed for "......because it contained either product feedback or feature requests." BUT!!! it contained niver!!!
OK perhaps I should not have posted it but the real resion for it's removel was not given. It was a post that was to personal. Sorry Pete
petermac87 wrote:
Skakagrall wrote:
Most of Matt Scultz's comments have now been removed. That's unfortunate. It doesn't help in addressing this issue.
To have his posts removed or edited by the hosts then he or she must have broken the Terms Of Use he agreed to when he joined the site. The same TOU we have all agreed to.
Pete
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Feb 16, 2014 11:28 PM in response to TopSteveby petermac87,It must have broken the rules somehow. You should have received an email as to why.
Pete
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Feb 16, 2014 11:34 PM in response to petermac87by TopSteve,petermac87 wrote:
It must have broken the rules somehow. You should have received an email as to why.
Pete
Yes I gote a email and I quoted the rules they sead it broken in my last post I will quote again "......because it contained either product feedback or feature requests." But it did not and there is no way of appling.
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Feb 16, 2014 11:38 PM in response to TopSteveby petermac87,Nor of proving that you didn't post such as it has now been removed. Move on.
Pete
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Feb 16, 2014 11:44 PM in response to petermac87by TopSteve,I had moved on until skakgrall and you started this side line about posts being removed.
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Feb 17, 2014 12:22 AM in response to TopSteveby petermac87,You don't HAVE to reply to everything on this thread. You seem to be under some illusion that you must. I didn't see any of those posts addressed to you.
Cheers
Pete
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Feb 17, 2014 1:46 AM in response to Ziatronby peter_watt,Ziatron wrote:
>>> What is your moral, ethical or sociopolitical objection to syncing browser bookmarks on icloud? <<<
http://funtechblog.wordpress.com/2013/07/05/nsa-views-many-icloud-accounts/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2012/08/07/another-apple-disaster-the-ic loud-gets-hacked/
I didnt ask you Ziatron, but if you are also worried about people seeing what websites you have bookmarked, dont bookmark naughty websites.
I might see some specific countries or companies that might restrict where you can store data about people contractualy (although see my earlier post about Safe Harbor Scheme) but Bookmarks?? really??
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Feb 17, 2014 1:51 AM in response to Skakagrallby peter_watt,Skakagrall wrote:
To Meg St Clair and Ziatron: yes, I've written to http://www.apple.com/feedback. But they say they won't respond and I'm not expecting to hear from them. After all, Apple now employs large numbers of manual-following employees who have no power to do anything to address customers' problems.
they say they will not respond, but they thank you for your input.
When we vote for our politicians we dont expect a letter of thanks, but if enough of us vote for the same one, things change. Please dont discourage people from "voting" on this issue.
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Feb 17, 2014 2:03 AM in response to Matt Schultzby Csound1,Matt Schultz wrote:
Skakagrall wrote:
I've just bought a high-end MacBook Pro Retina — without knowing about this problem. I've used Macs since 1989 and I am really suprised that a basic feature of way I interact with my computer and my phone has been taken away without my knowing anything about it.
I would not have bought the new computer if I had known about this. Instead I would have either continued using my old computer (with Mountain Lion) or bought an old (but more powerful machine) still running Mountain Lion.
That's exactly what happened to our company. Almost bait and switch IMHO.
Were you told that the feature was available on a new Mac, or did you just assume that it was.
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Feb 17, 2014 3:11 AM in response to Csound1by TopSteve,I agree with you. For thouse that are buying new. ESP as a new computer can run into the thousands of dolers.
To get back on track (yes I can move on) The question of local sync is a problem for older hardware or where people have desided that for what ever resion they can't/don't want to use iCloud
I think we have almost all the answers to this problem. For sync without iCloud or internet the choices are:
Run a local OSX server. Gives Contacs, Calinders and with some work Notes(I have to e-mail them to may self).
Run something like https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6311 thanks for Pete for posting the link.
Or ownCloud
There is a BIG something to watchout for. Some have seen this need and put the word "Local" into the service name E.G. https://helpdesk.egnyte.com/entries/61490-Desktop-Sync-Personal-Local-Cloud-Over view but when you install this you find you need an account with egnyte I stoped at that point becouse that is just iCloud by another name.
Use a version windows maybe on a pc or in VMware (I have not tested this)
I am just about to test a program called SyncMate but it asked if I wont to install "Windows Mobile 5.x, 6.x USB sync support" So I will google this first. I am using a Mac so I question this.
I hope this gives some good pointers
BookMarks are the thing I have not checked
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Feb 17, 2014 4:58 AM in response to TopSteveby James Richards,There are three non-internet workarounds that I know *do* work. I know they are not right for everyone. But they do enable local syncing without internet access and using Mavericks. I don't know if they work with a 3G iPhone, mine's a 3GS. I'm posting them again for the sake of keeping them visible on the thread:
(1) Barney-15E has created a User Tip (https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-6311) which enables you to run a CalDAV and CardDAV server on your own computer (just the regular machine that you normally use) and to sync directly between your iPhone and your computer without putting you data on the internet. It uses wifi either on your own home network or on an ad hoc network you set up using 'Create Network…' from your computer's WiFi menu. It takes a bit of work to set up but once you've done it it operates very easily. It's not a perfect solution to the loss of USB sync but IME it works pretty well. There's another shorter thread whic is focused on implementing this solution:https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5549736?tstart=0
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(2) get Mavericks Server, for a moderate outlay, and set up the same sort of thing that way. It may be easier to do. Don't be discouraged by a few posts on this thread which suggest Apple deprecate that idea. I'm fairly sure they flow from mutual misunderstanding between client and Apple Adviser.
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(3) ownCloud now works with Mavericks and provides another way for you to set up your own server "internally": http://michaelgracie.com/2013/11/13/getting-ios-7-calendar-and-contacts-syncing- directly-with-os-x-10-9-mavericks/
And if you're hoping for change make sure you post on the Apple feedback pages. This forum is only user-to-user, moderated by Apple if a user draws their attention to it, but otherwise only read by them by chance.
Hope this helps
James
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Feb 17, 2014 5:09 AM in response to James Richardsby Csound1,Please don't forget the oldest and best solution. Microsoft Exchange, does not require Internet access (other than for email) and will synchronize contacts, calendars and tasks etc over an internal network. It is a sync solution with 20+ years of development behind it.
It's just not free.
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Feb 17, 2014 5:42 AM in response to TopSteveby TopSteve,"I am just about to test a program called SyncMate but it asked if I wont to install "Windows Mobile 5.x, 6.x USB sync support" So I will google this first. I am using a Mac so I question this"
Looks Very Nice BUT not yeat with Mavericks, Eltima Software say they are working on it.
While looking into this the error/message that comes up often has the word "disabled" so are the services there just disabled or are they removed? make of this what you will.