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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by Imp68,

    Imp68 Imp68 Feb 18, 2014 5:31 AM in response to peter_watt
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    Feb 18, 2014 5:31 AM in response to peter_watt

    I don't need to point that out, and I wasn't describing how to downgrade.  I was directly answering a question.  The links mention the requirements, anyway.

     

    Downgrading is a simple process, provided the Mac supports the OS it's going to.

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Feb 18, 2014 5:35 AM in response to Imp68
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    Feb 18, 2014 5:35 AM in response to Imp68

    this thread is about ".....with OS X Mavericks?"  if you want to talk about "downgrading to local sync" start a diffent thread.

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Feb 18, 2014 5:35 AM in response to Imp68
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    Feb 18, 2014 5:35 AM in response to Imp68

    Imp68 wrote:

     

    I don't need to point that out, and I wasn't describing how to downgrade.  I was directly answering a question.  The links mention the requirements, anyway.

     

    Downgrading is a simple process, provided the Mac supports the OS it's going to.

    In the context of this thread it would be a downgrade.

     

    The simple process could be described though? I am still interested, as was the questioner.

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Feb 18, 2014 5:37 AM in response to TopSteve
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    Feb 18, 2014 5:37 AM in response to TopSteve

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    this thread is about ".....with OS X Mavericks?"  if you want to talk about "downgrading to local sync" start a diffent thread.

    Steve M8, if anyone was going to play the Off-Topic card I didn't think it would be you!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Feb 18, 2014 5:39 AM in response to TopSteve
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    Feb 18, 2014 5:39 AM in response to TopSteve

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    this thread is about ".....with OS X Mavericks?"  if you want to talk about "downgrading to local sync" start a diffent thread.

    And as has been pointed out repeatedly there are a few workarounds but no officially supported methods to locally sync an IOS device to a Mac running Mavericks.

     

    No matter how many times the question is repeated the answer stays the same.

     

    Under these circumstances a downgrade should be considered if avoiding the cloud is of paramount importance to you.

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Feb 18, 2014 5:59 AM in response to peter_watt
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    Feb 18, 2014 5:59 AM in response to peter_watt

    LOL  I only go off topic when other people post something that I feel needs a replay and the only way to replay is to go off topic (like this replay)  Sorry.

     

    To get back on topic.  I have started a new question and found some other threads that may be of intrest to those who wish to downgrade because sync is very inportant to them.  See links below.

     

    As for "No matter how many times the question is repeated the answer stays the same."  that is true only if there is no change over time and it dose not sound like Csound1 to go for a (no change) he likes as I think we all do to move forword.    Yes  Csound1 your right about officially supported methods, for now.  It is hard to change Apples mind they are stubon I should know I am a stubon(sorry cant find the right spelling) Sh** to.  That is why so meany of us keep repatting "use Apples feedback system".  I also don't think exploring non officially supported methods is a bad thing that's what I am doing.

     

    The links for downgrading threads, there more than this:

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/24174244#24174244

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/message/24775477#24775477

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5467369

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5485711

     

     

    https://discussions.apple.com/thread/5914540

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Feb 18, 2014 6:02 AM in response to TopSteve
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    Feb 18, 2014 6:02 AM in response to TopSteve

    As for "No matter how many times the question is repeated the answer stays the same."  that is true only if there is no change over time and it dose not sound like Csound1 to go for a (no change) he likes as I think we all do to move forword.

    And that is the situation (unless you can see the future, in which case consider buying Lottery tickets)

     

    I will not make predictions based on a hope and a guess.

  • by Mac Allan,

    Mac Allan Mac Allan Feb 18, 2014 2:49 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Feb 18, 2014 2:49 PM in response to Gerrit7

    Does anyone know whether upgrading to itunes 11.1.4 removes local sync in Mountain Lion?

  • by ccs93,

    ccs93 ccs93 Feb 18, 2014 2:54 PM in response to Mac Allan
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    Feb 18, 2014 2:54 PM in response to Mac Allan

    No it doesn't. I downgraded to Mountain Lion, am running iTunes 11.1.4(62) & local sync is just as it's always been .

     

    Sync services was removed in Mavericks but remains in Mountain Lion (for now).

  • by Armando Stettner,

    Armando Stettner Armando Stettner Feb 18, 2014 3:06 PM in response to Mac Allan
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    Feb 18, 2014 3:06 PM in response to Mac Allan

    Mac Allan wrote:

     

    Does anyone know whether upgrading to itunes 11.1.4 removes local sync in Mountain Lion?

    To confirm ccs93, no, it does not.

     

    As I understand it, the syncing implementation (via USB or not) is part of the OS and not directly in iTunes.  As an FYI, I downgraded to Mountain Lion (10.8.5) and am running iTunes 11.1.4 - albeit (62).

     

    aps

  • by Marble Rye,

    Marble Rye Marble Rye Feb 18, 2014 4:06 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Feb 18, 2014 4:06 PM in response to Gerrit7

    I just upgraded to Mavericks, and while the vast majority of it seems to be working fine it also has, like prior upgrades in years past, something you stumble upon that is a notable inconvenience that is unquestionably unnecessary. The removal of local syncing this thread speaks of is just that.

     

    I've worked on Macs for many years, going back to the mid-90s, and have had my Macbook Pro since '08 (so I'm pretty decent with a bit of Apple history), and I've noticed ever since the iPhone became all the rage Apple has veered from grounding its products in simplicity, smarts and overall sense and has embarked on trying to be cool in what appears to be its never-ending quest to appease the hipster crowd. Yes, their products are ever improving as a general rule but what I never cease shaking my head at is when the company tries to shove everyone in a singular direction regardless that it might not be for everyone (iCloud). Customer versatility and choice be damned. Any "reason" Apple gives for this will be flimsy to those who don't worship them.

     

    Perhaps it's that I'm getting older and don't have this obsession with trying to be cool anymore, perhaps this isn't the best place for this post (I'm sure there isn't a good place on Apple forums anyway) but when something simple and utilitarian is removed for no reason other that to shove everyone to the iCloud (something I'm sure Apple's pals in the NSA love) it's indicative of a company who's become narcissistic and, more clearly, unrooted in what made it great to begin with.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Feb 18, 2014 4:27 PM in response to Marble Rye
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    Feb 18, 2014 4:27 PM in response to Marble Rye
  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Feb 18, 2014 7:15 PM in response to Imp68
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    Feb 18, 2014 7:15 PM in response to Imp68

    I was unaware that Apple was selling older versions of their Mac OS. ( If they did that with iPhone it would make a LOT of people happy. )

     

    Do you know if Apple plans to always sell older versions of the Mac operating system?

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Feb 18, 2014 7:23 PM in response to Marble Rye
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    Feb 18, 2014 7:23 PM in response to Marble Rye

    Apple has veered from grounding its products in simplicity, smarts and overall sense and has embarked on trying to be cool in what appears to be its never-ending quest to appease the hipster crowd.

     

    The most accurate and well-written words I have read on this board in many months.

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Feb 18, 2014 7:42 PM in response to Ziatron
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    Feb 18, 2014 7:42 PM in response to Ziatron

    Ziatron wrote:

     

    I was unaware that Apple was selling older versions of their Mac OS. ( If they did that with iPhone it would make a LOT of people happy. )

     

    Do you know if Apple plans to always sell older versions of the Mac operating system?

     

    Apple never tell anyone their long term plans.

     

    If you want an OS or app in the future, buy it now & back it up to different media in triplicate, there is no guarantee that anything will be available in the future, you may be able to contact Apple support & request copies but who wants to deal with that

     

    Reverting iOS isn't allowed because it restores the holes in the OS that Apple refuses to fix - it means people can do the thing that Apple doesn't want anyone to do (hint: it starts with 'jail' and ends with posts being deleted on here).

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