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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Feb 26, 2014 2:37 PM in response to Yule
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    Feb 26, 2014 2:37 PM in response to Yule

    Yule wrote:

     

    My contacts and calendars contain confidential client data. If I let this get onto an outside server they would rightly kill me. No server or cloud is safe.

    Kill you?!? I don't think I would want your job or your clients!

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Feb 26, 2014 2:44 PM in response to Yule
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    Feb 26, 2014 2:44 PM in response to Yule

    Yule wrote:

     

    My contacts and calendars contain confidential client data. If I let this get onto an outside server they would rightly kill me. No server or cloud is safe.

     

    ...

    Are they happy you are using non compliant tools, and keep a copy on your phone which can be lost? Is it encrypted on the phone?

  • by Yule,

    Yule Yule Feb 26, 2014 2:50 PM in response to peter_watt
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    Feb 26, 2014 2:50 PM in response to peter_watt

    My devices are password protected and set to erase after too many attempts to login. I also have a strap to reduce the chances of losing them.

  • by Yule,

    Yule Yule Feb 26, 2014 2:51 PM in response to IdrisSeabright
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    Feb 26, 2014 2:51 PM in response to IdrisSeabright

    Always have lots of insurance ... Your spouse will like it!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Feb 26, 2014 2:54 PM in response to Yule
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    Feb 26, 2014 2:54 PM in response to Yule

    I don't know if you are in the medical industry but if you are note that iPhones/iPads are not HIPAA compliant.

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Feb 26, 2014 2:56 PM in response to peter_watt
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    Feb 26, 2014 2:56 PM in response to peter_watt

    peter_watt wrote:

     

    " note shour what "bird on the surf board." means". -  Bird, british slang for attractive woman. 

     

    Yes I understand "Bird" I'm british  but what do you mean by  "...and get rid of the bird on the surf board."

  • by iW00,

    iW00 iW00 Feb 26, 2014 3:08 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Feb 26, 2014 3:08 PM in response to Gerrit7

    When I went to System Preferences and opened iCloud I found that all the options were checked. They were not checked before because I do not want my data to be on the iCloud. Apple gave no notice that the default would be changed in this upgrade.

     

    Apple seems to have adopted a new policy that we all use iCloud by default and they have now made it a policy to make that so with their upgrades.

     

    Things are getting worse.

     

    I'm sorry, but if you are against iCloud, why would you even bother to sign in with your Apple ID and take that risk of this options to be checked by Apple with SW update?

     

    Like others said. Few different machines, each updated to 10.9.2. Nothing did change in iCloud pane by itself. Still remains the same...

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Feb 26, 2014 3:07 PM in response to TopSteve
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    Feb 26, 2014 3:07 PM in response to TopSteve

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    Yes I understand "Bird" I'm british  but what do you mean by  "...and get rid of the bird on the surf board."

    The last page of your blog until recently was a woman on a surf board. The standard blog starter page with latin text. Maybe you hadn't noticed.  Anyway she is gone. And this is seriously off topic now.

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Feb 26, 2014 3:24 PM in response to Yule
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    Feb 26, 2014 3:24 PM in response to Yule

    Yule wrote:

     

    My devices are password protected and set to erase after too many attempts to login. I also have a strap to reduce the chances of losing them.

    A device password and a strap? I apologise, your clients data is in safe hands.

     

    Seriously though, you have taken a pragmatic view, assessed the risk of having the phone snatched while it is still lit up as being low enough (despite it being a common practice on the streets) and that the strap will always be round your wrist, then decided it is safe enough for your needs.

     

    I took the same assessment with icloud, but based on a much more rigorous security protocol which is orders of magnitude greater than the relatively probable street snatch scenario.

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Feb 26, 2014 3:19 PM in response to peter_watt
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    Feb 26, 2014 3:19 PM in response to peter_watt

    Thanks for letting me know. So you did have a look at it.   sorry for being off topic  but my blog is now on topic. and being updated.

    peter_watt wrote:

     

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    Yes I understand "Bird" I'm british  but what do you mean by  "...and get rid of the bird on the surf board."

    The last page of your blog until recently was a woman on a surf board. The standard blog starter page with latin text. Maybe you hadn't noticed.  Anyway she is gone. And this is seriously off topic now.

  • by userremoved,

    userremoved userremoved May 11, 2015 8:37 AM in response to winglet
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    May 11, 2015 8:37 AM in response to winglet

    Im gonna put this on a T Shirt hahah, "And if the discussion is pointless, do be sure to consider your own participation in it".

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Feb 26, 2014 3:34 PM in response to iW00
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    Feb 26, 2014 3:34 PM in response to iW00

    iW00 wrote:

     

    I'm sorry, but if you are against iCloud, why would you even bother to sign in with your Apple ID and take that risk of this options to be checked by Apple with SW update?

     

    Like others said. Few different machines, each updated to 10.9.2. Nothing did change in iCloud pane by itself. Still remains the same...

     

    Have you installed Mac OS recently?

    The setup assistant nags for an iCloud login, the App Store does the same.

    Users want to access their iTunes purchases or may also want to use Mail.app with an iCloud email address. Once you hand over details for one part of the OS the credentials are saved & end up pre-populating other places where an Apple ID is used.

     

    I'm all for integration, however it is spread across so many places it's tough to ensure that something isn't happening behind your back. You do realise that many people will use Apple's 'FindMy…' service & no other iCloud services - does that make it OK to upload your contact data to the web?

     

    Do you seriously want to argue that enabling sync without user interaction is a good thing?

    Is this really the users own fault?

     

    Gain some perspective - consider if this service wasn't owned by Apple - would it be appropriate if Facebook or Twitter was able to do the same with an app update?

  • by Yule,

    Yule Yule Feb 26, 2014 3:43 PM in response to iW00
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    Feb 26, 2014 3:43 PM in response to iW00

    Find my.....

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Feb 26, 2014 3:55 PM in response to Yule
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    Feb 26, 2014 3:55 PM in response to Yule

    Yule wrote:

     

    Find my.....

     

    …Mac, iPad, iPhone, Touch?…

  • by Yule,

    Yule Yule Feb 26, 2014 4:08 PM in response to Drew Reece
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    Feb 26, 2014 4:08 PM in response to Drew Reece

    I was being brief. here is a fuller answer -  I would like to be able to find my devices if they get stolen. To do this I need to have iCloud active and turn on the Find My Mac option and its equivalent in each device. This is in response to the question why I activated iCloud if I do not want my data in iCloud.

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