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Mar 7, 2014 12:19 PM in response to jt8780by echelon3,Please take a moment to share your opinion with Apple
This iCloud only nonsense is untenable and/or unworkable for many, I want to believe Apple will listen if enough speak up.
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Mar 7, 2014 12:21 PM in response to echelon3by Csound1,echelon3 wrote:
This iCloud only nonsense is untenable
It would be if it was iCloud only, but it is (thankfully) not.
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Mar 7, 2014 4:01 PM in response to petermac87by beninabox,Hey petermac87, you seriously need to understand punctuation. My remark was in the form of a question. I make no claim to being an expert. Far from it. You chose to 'answer' to my question with insulting snark. Do you always respond to questions in this fashion?
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Mar 7, 2014 4:27 PM in response to beninaboxby petermac87,Na, just the misinformed ones, like yours. With your attitude you must be surprised that anybody replied to you at all. (Insert smily face here).
Pete
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Mar 7, 2014 8:09 PM in response to petermac87by beninabox,So your reaction to a *question* (as opposed to a doctrinaire statement) that you deem to be misinformed is to trash the person asking them. I notice you still have not informed me of anything useful. I got a respectful reply berfore yours, so yy only surprise was your reply was patronizing and devoid of actual information. Surprising because you seem to be highly rated. I guess even experts have their less than steller moments.
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Mar 7, 2014 9:32 PM in response to echelon3by Skakagrall,Redux:
Sync was the basis of the whole Apple system. Your Mac, iPhone and iPad were more valuable integrated than they would have been on their own.
Sync was reliable precisely because it was local. In my experience — also that of wiredancer, applejpmc, jayv, TopSteve and doubtless the overwhelming majority of users — it never went wrong.
Local sync was also, by definition, completely secure. It didn’t share our bank details, confidential contacts, passwords, buying habits etc. etc. with anybody else.
Asking Apple to bring back local sync — which could probably be accomplished quite easily if they agreed — is obviously within the scope of this discussion.
Once again: please don’t feed the (typically off-topic, one-liner) iCloud trolls. Just ignore them. That way they stand more chance of going off somewhere and actually making themselves useful. (Maybe difficult to imagine, but let’s be optimistic!)
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Mar 7, 2014 9:34 PM in response to Skakagrallby petermac87,Skakagrall wrote:
doubtless the overwhelming majority of users — it never went wrong.
So you have spoken to every other Mavericks user as well as these four or are you speculating to support your statement?
Asking Apple bringing back local sync — which could probably be accomplished quite easily if they agreed — is obviously within the scope of this discussion.
No it's not, as has maybe been mentioned once or two hundred times, they do not read these threads. You need to tell them with the proper feedback
Pete
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Mar 7, 2014 9:59 PM in response to Skakagrallby jayv.,Skakagrall wrote:
Sync was reliable precisely because it was local. In my experience — also that of wiredancer, applejpmc, jayv, TopSteve and doubtless the overwhelming majority of users — it never went wrong.
And the trolls will ask if we have spoken all the users out there. Like they have and are able to support their claim that it DOESN'T work lol.
Apple staff does in fact read (and operate) these forums. Saying they don't is like denying they use iOS jailbreaks for ideas. It's just plain ignorance.
Anyway, after a few days of working with SyncMate and have yet to find a fault. I might stick with OS X server in the end as I have plans for it that go beyond syncing. Either way SyncMate will have a permanent spot on my system in case the server ever goes down or anything.
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Mar 7, 2014 10:09 PM in response to jayv.by petermac87,jayv. wrote:
Skakagrall wrote:
Sync was reliable precisely because it was local. In my experience — also that of wiredancer, applejpmc, jayv, TopSteve and doubtless the overwhelming majority of users — it never went wrong.
And the trolls will ask if we have spoken all the users out there. Like they have and are able to support their claim that it DOESN'T work lol.
Just seems strange that he/she/it claims that the overwhelming majority found it reliable. Does this include the 320+ million iCloud account holders? Claims as such are a desperate attempt to give creedence to an unfounder statement....again.
Apple staff does in fact read (and operate) these forums. Saying they don't is like denying they use iOS jailbreaks for ideas. It's just plain ignorance.
Your Evidence? Oh, that's right, you can never seem to link to any facts.
Anyway, you seem to have your SyncMate, so why are you still complaining and supporting misinformed posters?
Cheers
Pete
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Mar 7, 2014 10:32 PM in response to echelon3by jayv.,The feedback page is there for a reason, they want to hear from their customers. Wether it will lead to anything though... time will tell. Leaving the feedback can't hurt though
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Mar 8, 2014 8:44 AM in response to Skakagrallby Matt Schultz,Skakagrall wrote:
Redux:
Sync was the basis of the whole Apple system. Your Mac, iPhone and iPad were more valuable integrated than they would have been on their own.
Sync was reliable precisely because it was local. In my experience — also that of wiredancer, applejpmc, jayv, TopSteve and doubtless the overwhelming majority of users — it never went wrong.
You can add me to that list.
Synching schedule and address book using 3rd party applications in the Mac days of yore (aka yesteryear) wasn't perfect - OS 7, 8 & 9 would often crash taking the sync data down with it - but it was still better than nothing. All people really wanted back then was a back-up of their address book, and maybe a calendar. Not much has changed, eh? :-)
I was a user of Apple's Sync from early on. For many years I kept the bookmarked page on apple.com where the company showed which phones were supported, visiting regularly. After ditching Blackberry in the late 90's and it's formerly excellent local sync service & application on my PowerBook, I owned a number of Sony Ericcson and Panasonic models, and Apple did a fairly decent job supporting them.
Once iPhone arrived, Apple basically stopped supporting 3rd party mobile phones, focusing all of their Sync resources on their own handhelds, which is what Sync really needed back then. At the point of a few updates thereafter, Sync simply kept getting better and better. At one point, it might have been the most solid application bundled in OS X. The only time we ever lost any data getting our iPhones & our Macs supporting each other was the time we test drove iCloud. Sync operated flawlessly for both home and business use (plus mixed use) for years. I cannot recall a single lost bit.
I know they won't but still, I wish Apple would bring this hallowed app back, even via WiFi if they didn't want to muck with USB cables any further. While this wouldn't help us a lot since we rarely get internet access during the work week - for personal use, a return of virtually any form of local Sync would aid workflow a lot.
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Mar 8, 2014 8:48 AM in response to Matt Schultzby Csound1,Matt Schultz wrote:
I know they won't but still, I wish Apple would bring this hallowed app back, even via WiFi if they didn't want to muck with USB cables any further. While this wouldn't help us a lot since we rarely get internet access during the work week - for personal use, a return of virtually any form of local Sync would aid workflow a lot.
You've lost me there Matt, what does not having internet access during the work week have to do with local sync via WiFi?
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Mar 8, 2014 9:20 AM in response to Matt Schultzby Chris CA,Matt Schultz wrote:
After ditching Blackberry in the late 90's and it's formerly excellent local sync service & application on my PowerBook,Timeline?
RIM
You sync'd your pager?
RIM released 1st phone in 2000.