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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Mar 10, 2014 3:16 PM in response to Skakagrall
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    Mar 10, 2014 3:16 PM in response to Skakagrall

    Without making a truncated version of your contacts with 1000 contacts there is no way to prove a data volume limit. Not going to be easy.  Poor volume testing has caught out many a small outfit.

  • by fogr4,

    fogr4 fogr4 Mar 10, 2014 3:18 PM in response to Skakagrall
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    Mar 10, 2014 3:18 PM in response to Skakagrall

    I noticed that SyncMate doesn't find any contacts unless you put them into a group first. Could that be your problem?

  • by wiredancer,

    wiredancer wiredancer Mar 10, 2014 5:17 PM in response to Skakagrall
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    Mar 10, 2014 5:17 PM in response to Skakagrall

    here is my report, syncing with SyncMate 5 Beta:

     

    I synced my iPad 1, iPhone 3, iPhone 4, and iPhone 5 successfully. …. BUT, it did not function at first. I figured out, that if in Calendar or Contacts on my Mac there are other accounts active (for example remote accounts accounts like Google or ownCloud) then it poses a problem for SyncMate. I deactivated all the accounts and only left the “On My Mac” active. After that everything synced.

     

    A little down side is the extensive time it takes to sync each time. Over 5 min.

     

     


     

  • by charliealpha,

    charliealpha charliealpha Mar 13, 2014 2:40 PM in response to hax0r
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    Mar 13, 2014 2:40 PM in response to hax0r

    Hax0r, YES, I am absolutely interested in a solution to sync that does not use iCloud.

    And would pay for it.

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Mar 13, 2014 2:43 PM in response to charliealpha
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    Mar 13, 2014 2:43 PM in response to charliealpha

    Syncmate 5 by Eltima software is in Beta, (so is free at present). Back up your contacts first and put it to the test, update Eltima and we could have a winner.

    I've only noticed one small bug so far.

  • by Mac Allan,

    Mac Allan Mac Allan Mar 14, 2014 6:16 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Mar 14, 2014 6:16 PM in response to Gerrit7

    Anyone know whether the iphone update to 7.1 has any effect on Mountain Lion syncing of contacts and calendar, don't want to screw up my current settings before Eltima has completed beta testing?

     

    Anyone know how long testing traditionally takes?

    Thanks

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Mar 15, 2014 12:05 AM in response to Mac Allan
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    Mar 15, 2014 12:05 AM in response to Mac Allan

    Mac Allan wrote:

     

    Anyone know whether the iphone update to 7.1 has any effect on Mountain Lion syncing of contacts and calendar, don't want to screw up my current settings before Eltima has completed beta testing?

     

    Anyone know how long testing traditionally takes?

    Thanks

    You mean Mavericks syncing no doubt?

    I don't know and anybody who does is likely under an NDA. You'll have to google this one....

  • by Armando Stettner,

    Armando Stettner Armando Stettner Mar 15, 2014 12:58 AM in response to gumsie
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    Mar 15, 2014 12:58 AM in response to gumsie

    I have been running 7.1 since it was announced.  I also run Mountain Lion because of all the reasons given here.

     

    iOS 7.1 syncs calendar events and contacts just fine with Mountain Lion.  I can not speak to any Eltima issues.

     

    aps

  • by Mac Allan,

    Mac Allan Mac Allan Mar 15, 2014 6:00 AM in response to Armando Stettner
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    Mar 15, 2014 6:00 AM in response to Armando Stettner

    Thanks Armando, hopefully my upgrade will go smoothly as well

  • by iTonimerlot,

    iTonimerlot iTonimerlot Mar 16, 2014 7:39 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Mar 16, 2014 7:39 AM in response to Gerrit7

    I have done some testing with "SyncMate Expert 5.0.111" in a virtual machine with 10.9 and iPod iOS 6.1 seems to work properly.

    But since I've already spent a lot of time to test "MAMP + Baikal," I will work perfectly for now I continue to use "MAMP + Baikal".

    Sorry for my "GooglEnglish"

  • by Skakagrall,

    Skakagrall Skakagrall Mar 16, 2014 8:43 AM in response to iTonimerlot
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    Mar 16, 2014 8:43 AM in response to iTonimerlot

    Background: last month I bought a new MacBook Pro (Mavericks installed). I used Time Machine (TM) to back up my old (Mountain Lion) Mac. I then used TM to install all my files on the new computer — without any apparent conflicts. I subsequently tried to install Bailkal Server, OS X Server and SyncMate 5 and encountered a series of problems, culminating in the loss of admin privileges in my user accounts, and being locked out of System Preferences/Users and Groups.

     

    Apple Store: Last week I spent four hours at my local Apple Store trying to sort out the problems. (Interestingly, the staff there were not aware that local sync had been disabled for Calendar and Contacts.)

     

    Apple trainer’s opinion: the problems probably were caused by using TM to migrate all my files. It’s likely that system conflicts were caused by software I was using with Mountain Lion.

     

    Solution: we did a complete reinstall of Mavericks, and moved my files by hand, item by item, from TM to the computer.

     

    Sync: I am now concentrating on trying to get Syncmate 5 to work. Calendars work fine, but not Contacts. In total, I have about 4,250, but I can only sync one group of about 350. I can’t sync any second group. Are my results in line with other peoples? Or have some people been able to sync whole, substantial Contacts files? (Of course, I’ve tried discussing this with Eltima, reporting logs etc. but there is more discussion here than on their forum.)

  • by fogr4,

    fogr4 fogr4 Mar 16, 2014 9:43 AM in response to Skakagrall
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    Mar 16, 2014 9:43 AM in response to Skakagrall

    I also was not able to sync my entire contact list.

     

    I sent an email to SyncMate, but even they responded saying that there is no upper bound, I had to resort to creating groups of about 400 each.

  • by P J M,

    P J M P J M Mar 17, 2014 4:42 PM in response to KennyB.
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    Mar 17, 2014 4:42 PM in response to KennyB.

    I absolutely hate that Apple is taking this Orwellian/Big Brother approach to OUR DATA! It is unacceptable on several levels that they made this change:

     

    1) There was no notification, so it is their asserted unilateral right to DECREASE functionality on equipment and with processes that cost us all money and that we had come to rely on

     

    2) There was no notification that they were going to reduce functionality so people like me could have refrained completely from the supposed "upgrade"

     

    2) We should NOT be comp[elled to give up our contacts and calendar information, i.e. who we know and where we have been or will be to some muntinational corporation.

     

    I have been an Apple product user (not a zealot, but a user) since the beginning. I even went to school with Jobs (what little he attended) and this is not where it was supposed to go. Guess I was naieve... Big Data scares the **** ougt of me when it is used this way.

     

    Finally, I truly do wonder where the "upside" is for Apple? Are they truly that big that they can purport to own our personal data, track our whereabouts, and spy on us with abandon? I suppose so. Oh well, guess I'm old fashioned!

     

    This will be the end of my use of Apple products if this is not remedied.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 17, 2014 4:45 PM in response to P J M
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    Mar 17, 2014 4:45 PM in response to P J M

    This will be the end of my use of Apple products if this is not remedied.

    That's a shame, what will you use instead?

  • by P J M,

    P J M P J M Mar 17, 2014 4:52 PM in response to Csound1
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    Mar 17, 2014 4:52 PM in response to Csound1

    Anything and everything but.

     

    In any case you are avoiding the question of personal rights... and functional continuity of products we have already paid for and invested time in.

     

    ______________________________

     

    It is a shame because all this tech was supposed to "liberate" and "empower" us.

     

    In further reply to your question...

     

    How about a DayTimer, that would be quite retro, don't you think?

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