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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Oct 30, 2013 5:25 AM in response to Matt Schultz
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    Oct 30, 2013 5:25 AM in response to Matt Schultz

    Cloud storage and thin clients aren't even remotely similar. If you knew anything about networking, you'd know that.

  • by Matt Schultz,

    Matt Schultz Matt Schultz Oct 30, 2013 6:53 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Oct 30, 2013 6:53 AM in response to KiltedTim

    {{{sigh}}}

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Oct 30, 2013 7:10 AM in response to Matt Schultz
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    Oct 30, 2013 7:10 AM in response to Matt Schultz

    Exactly.

  • by DHoogs,

    DHoogs DHoogs Oct 30, 2013 7:46 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Oct 30, 2013 7:46 AM in response to Gerrit7

    After almost having a nervous breakdown due to the inability of syncing my contacts with my MacBook Pro, I surrendered and decided to sync them between my iPhone and the computer through iCloud. Now, thanks to that, I have more than 1k contacts in "fourplicity" on my contact list, which, originally had around 3k contacts. Not to mention that on my calendar I have now 3 or 4 birthday alerts for each person. This is completely crazy. I couldn't imagine that one day Apple would be able to mess my events and contacts in such way. Not even on my worst iNightmares!

  • by AndyD,

    AndyD AndyD Oct 30, 2013 8:02 AM in response to hubertusbe
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    Oct 30, 2013 8:02 AM in response to hubertusbe

    @hubertusbe

     

    I have been looking for references for server since this thread began.

     

    I have not installed server yet as I am still waiting for a couple of weeks to see how things shake out.  I will make a decision depending on what other options present themselves in the next couple of weeks.  I may still install a home server (a likely sceneio), but I need to find out what things server can do for me in my home network and multiple Mac and multiple iDevice use.

     

    Anyway, here are a couple of references I found, from the Server forum a recommendation for this eBook:

     

    http://www.wegotserved.com/2013/10/22/using-os-x-mavericks-server-home-ebook-now -available/

     

    And from just keeping my eyes open on other Mac news sites:

     

    http://securityspread.com/2013/10/27/setting-sync-server/

     

    They both look like good resources and they are where I will start when I make my decision about server.

     

    IHTH,

     

    Andy

  • by Matt Schultz,

    Matt Schultz Matt Schultz Oct 30, 2013 8:01 AM in response to AndyD
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    Oct 30, 2013 8:01 AM in response to AndyD
  • by AndyD,

    AndyD AndyD Oct 30, 2013 8:08 AM in response to Matt Schultz
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    Oct 30, 2013 8:08 AM in response to Matt Schultz

    @ Matt Schultz

     

    Good read!  This reinfoces my decision to stay away from iCloud or anybody else's cloud.  I just want to maintain local control and responsibilty for all my data.

     

    Andy

  • by jonfromdaleville,

    jonfromdaleville jonfromdaleville Oct 30, 2013 8:41 AM in response to DHoogs
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    Oct 30, 2013 8:41 AM in response to DHoogs

    Dhoogs, are you saying you have quadruple contacts? Or that you lost 2000 contacts when uploading to icloud?

    Are you using any other sync services? (exchange, google, yahoo, etc?)

  • by DHoogs,

    DHoogs DHoogs Oct 30, 2013 8:56 AM in response to jonfromdaleville
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    Oct 30, 2013 8:56 AM in response to jonfromdaleville

    I don't know exactly why, my MacBook Pro enabled 5 times the iCloud syncing on my contact list and callendar. I also don't know why (but I guess that it was because the cloud was still syncing), not every contact was quadruplied. And when I first pressed the option for stop syncing the contacts, didn't work. When I opened the Contacts App in order to disable the iCloud sync, it crashed at least 6 times in a roll. When I was finally able to disable the iCloud sync, ALL MY CONTACTS disappeared and I believe this is due to the fact that I asked the system to erase contacts from iCloud, but of course I thought that the system would keep my "old" contacts there, which didn't happen. And now I'm almost having a nervous breakdown!

  • by Grootstyr,

    Grootstyr Grootstyr Oct 30, 2013 9:03 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Oct 30, 2013 9:03 AM in response to Gerrit7

    I don't know what the fuss is all about. All of a sudden the services we've all been using for the last 20 years are now called cloud services because they are accessible from all other the internet instead of just your company's internal network. Why are they even called cloud services? I mean, mail, calendar, contacts etc..? You've had that 'cloud service' for the last 20 years in the form of Microsoft Exchange.

     

    Sync over the wire is the thing thats 1996, not over the air syncing. I am not saying you should all stop whining and use iCloud, no, please god no. I also appreciate my data and like to have it in my own hands and have set up an ESXi box with several servers virtualized on it to provide me with all the cloud-service you can ever think of, but all privately. You don't have to go through all the hassle because they've created something for you: OS X Server. You just run to the Apple Store, buy a Mac Mini with OS X Server on it, throw it in your network, configure some ports, which if you own an Airport, is done automatically at the click of a button. And off you go, private over the air syncing, all your data, in your own control.

     

    And the new dumbed down version of OS X Server is so simplified you can run it along side on your client, no problem at all, as long as you don't turn it off. But who turns his non-portable mac off anyway.

     

    Best of luck.

     

    @DHoogs turning off iCloud will delete all iCloud's data of your device, the data that is allready uploaded to iCloud's servers will not be deleted. And upon deletion of all iCloud's data off your device your contacts that were not stored in iCloud will remain. It has been that way with Exchange servers, and it still is with iCloud. Basically iCloud is an exchange server for calendar, contact, task mail etc. The only addittion is some smart file-sharing.

  • by DHoogs,

    DHoogs DHoogs Oct 30, 2013 9:02 AM in response to jonfromdaleville
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    Oct 30, 2013 9:02 AM in response to jonfromdaleville

    And @jonfromdelaville, no, I've never used any other sync service...

  • by Grootstyr,

    Grootstyr Grootstyr Oct 30, 2013 9:05 AM in response to DHoogs
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    Oct 30, 2013 9:05 AM in response to DHoogs

    Lets assume you work at a company that uses computers. If so, you are using sync services, most likely Exchange. Which are 'Cloud Services' today, all out of a sudden...

  • by handsOFFmydata,

    handsOFFmydata handsOFFmydata Oct 30, 2013 10:03 AM in response to DHoogs
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    Oct 30, 2013 10:03 AM in response to DHoogs

     

    Oct 30, 2013 11:56 AM    (in response to jonfromdaleville

    I don't know exactly why, my MacBook Pro enabled 5 times the iCloud syncing on my contact list and callendar. I also don't know why (but I guess that it was because the cloud was still syncing), not every contact was quadruplied. And when I first pressed the option for stop syncing the contacts, didn't work. When I opened the Contacts App in order to disable the iCloud sync, it crashed at least 6 times in a roll. When I was finally able to disable the iCloud sync, ALL MY CONTACTS disappeared and I believe this is due to the fact that I asked the system to erase contacts from iCloud, but of course I thought that the system would keep my "old" contacts there, which didn't happen. And now I'm almost having a nervous breakdown!

     

    Sorry to hear ... I went thru same experience, duplication of data and then wipe out when I tried the iCloud sync, just to test and be informed. The only difference is that I have made backups (export) of my contact and calendar data before experimenting with iCloud.

     

    DO THE BACKUP/EXPORT OF YOUR CALENDAR, CONTACT, AND ANY OTHER DATA BEFORE SYNCING VIA ICLOUD.

     

    As I was experimenting and syncing multiple devices, I’ve got the duplication of data. Perhaps because data on each device that was synced via cable before was treated as unique … how stupid is that. I’ve got a complete wipeout of my calendar data, and my contact data was threatened but recoverable.

     

    Don’t dare to sign off from icloud after syncing because your “master” calendar data on your Mac will be wiped out … yes … wiped out clean!

     

    DO THE BACKUPS/EXPORT BEFORE USING ICLOUD!

  • by handsOFFmydata,

    handsOFFmydata handsOFFmydata Oct 30, 2013 10:25 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Oct 30, 2013 10:25 AM in response to KiltedTim

     

    Oct 30, 2013 8:25 AM    (in response to Matt Schultz

    Cloud storage and thin clients aren't even remotely similar. If you knew anything about networking, you'd know that.

     

    Who cares ... from the gearhead point of view this might make a difference.

     

    From the consumer/user/society point of view it’s all the same … you loose your data to a machine that you have no control over. When (not if) S##T happens, you have no means to recover even if you know that unthinkable happened.

     

    Read this again: http://rms2.tumblr.com/post/46505165521/the-gathering-storm-our-travails-with-ic loud-sync

     

    It’s not only 1996 all over again, it’s 1984 as well. I live long enough to know how things work then and then and what is happening with iCloud today … same freaking thing, chained to a mainframe again!

     

    Who cares what engine that thing is running, V6 … V8 … Diesel, fact is: you are on the bus that somebody else is driving … got it?

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