Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

See what I mean? Same little handful of trollers. Hijacked the thread and think they can use it as their personal chat room.

Pete

Is that really true?

If so, may be these 212 pages of protest have helped the "turn back" ...

imac_user_since_AppleII_in1982 wrote:

 

Is that really true?

Wait and see, no other method available at the moment.

Let's hope it's true to shut up the whingers who can't use iCloud. Probably Apple's thinking too. I wonder what the iCloud haters will whinge about if this is returned? I'm sure they will find something.

Pete

TopSteve wrote:

 

ssls6 wrote:

 

Breaking news

 

http://www.macrumors.com

I hope this is true.

It's about time!! I'm in the seed so I'll be looking closely at this.

For some reason I've not had any notification tho.

What exactly is your objection to using online services?

Personally, my original objection was about how Apple communicated the information before the upgrade to Mavericks and then how Apple customer service handled reporting of the problem after it was too late to go back (easily). It was so unlike most other developments that it seemed very out of character for the company. This is a tech thread of course, but my hunch was that this wasn't really a technical problem. It was a choice Apple made, and that would require contacting Apple outside of the forum. (which, if the timely rumor above is true, sounds like it has had some marginal effect!)

However, what has maintained my interest in this thread is the framing you demonstrate here, perhaps not even meaning it. Wanting a diversity of options does not mean an objection to any particular option. The two are separate issues. As these two issues blended together over the past hundred pages, I became increasingly interested as to why some people are so interested in moving to an online-only world. From gaming to privacy to the cost of data, I think there are a number of rather legitimate reasons to not want internet access to be required to participate in personal computing. At bare minimum, that kind of change should be rolled out over a much longer timeline, such as the Intel conversion where an iMac in 2012 still shipped with Rosetta even though the iMac line switched to Intel sometime back around 2006.

Pus, the floppy drive comparison is a personal pet peeve of mine since external USB floppy drives were quite valuable to some of us...I know we're a small group, but for a few years that made life in a school district switching over much easier

Then why did you even consider updating? Both hardware AND software?

Pete

And you think that a tech support forum manned by users rather than company representatives is the place to put your thoughts.

You're right about the tech issue though, it is not a tech issue, it is a decision taken by Apple and only reversible by Apple.

Knock yourself out.

gumsie

The terms of your NDA preclude you from discussing anything about the seed, including whether or not you're in it.

Maybe refrain from talking about it?

Hi everyone,

At the risk of a repeat, I stumbled accross this:

"OS X Mavericks v10.9 and later do not use SyncServices.

Instead, Mavericks supports sharing your information using several network-based and cloud-based solutions. If you want to sync your information across multiple devices and computers, you should use one or more of these methods. These include iCloud, CardDAV servers, CalDAV servers, and servers that utilize the Exchange ActiveSync protocol."

I think that I'll stick to an old Mac for iSync

gillsan wrote:

 

Hi everyone,

At the risk of a repeat,

Have you even been following this thread?

Pete

gillsan wrote:

 

Hi everyone,

At the risk of a repeat,

Yes, it was mentioned on teh 2nd page... 5 months ago...

Where did you stumble across htis?

So, Pete. I'm a whinger, eh? "...Can't use iCloud"??? More accurately, I won't  use iCloud. I would rather use a pencil and paper...

Your approach to discussion is less that agreeable. Namecalling and other juvenile devices.  But maybe that' the point for you. Make syou feel "powerful" in a weak kind of way.

My opinion - The point here is that this is a key juncture for how OUR data are used, and our devices controlled, or potentially controlled through arbitrary outside (Apple Corp) decisions to reconfigure and downgrade our software systems. I personally have no desire to have my personal data, to wit, all of my contacts and appointments maintained on some supposedly "safe" mega-database...by Apple Corp, NSA, or whomever.

There are plenty of historical precedents for abuse of power and Apple's recent move to try to require porting personal information to their cloud is just a preleminary reflection of their growing arrogance. It is a dangerous precedent. It is a harbinger of things to come if we do not continue to assert our right to non-interference with and downright authoritarian control of our lives.

Cool design does not in my opinion outweigh corporate decisions that limit our freedom.

P J M wrote:

 

So, Pete. I'm a whinger, eh? "...Can't use iCloud"???

I do not recall ever replying to you. Good thing too, judging by your attitude and lack of knowledge on the topic.

Pete

I am a computer professional. I do not want my personal data in the cloud. My reasons were made very clear by Mr. Snowden, your data is only as safe as the ethics of the people securing the data. I don't sync to Google and I won't sync to Apple. Only if the data stays on my computers can I be sure what safety measures are in place. Could I be hacked? Of course, I could but at least my security is under my control.