Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

DieselFuelForLife wrote:

 

As such, I will no longer respond to your trolling.

Thank you so much for that.

I no longer have to put up with such nonsensical comments like those you are foolishly making.

 

Then don't give them your information. iCloud is a choice.

No, it isn't. Apple removed any way for me to sync my contacts, notes and calendars with my iDevices. All my information has to be copied by handbetween my devices and the only data to/from my computer is apps and media.

Bye bye

Pete

Yes. Very well put by Unix guru.

I got censored by the "religious" for no reason.

Informing apple of their blunder worked this time.

I'm done too.

Long live "save as".

snozdop wrote:

 

> Steve would not have stomached this.

 

Really? You must've known him well I presume?

 

Fact is, the deprecation of SyncServices was planned (and then executed) long before Steve's death, so it's unlikely he was not aware of it, but actually authorised it.

 

For all we know (due to Apple's secrecy) Apple may have been planning to retain local USB syncing all along. It might just not have been ready for the initial release of Mavericks. My guess is that instead of USB syncing being dependent on a deprecated OS X system framework, they've updated and moved the specific functionality into iTunes itself (same as on Windows). It's very unlikely they have suddenly re-instated the old SyncServices framework a few months after removing it, and 2 years after first deprecating it. Development plans don't change that quickly.

The concept that Apple did this deliberately is a ridiculous idea.

They have annoyed their own users enough to complain publicly.

Now Apple have once again 'Sherlocked' developers.

How do you think Eltima & the other developers feel now that Apple has just made the software they have been working on for months a part of the OS?

This situation is a mess and to claim it was by design is laughable.

If Apple was as devious as you insinuate, why didn't they simply partner with any 3rd party sync developers last year to assist them making a solution for 10.9 when it was released?

The users would have a sync solution and developers could be confident that thier work wasn't going to be made worthless by Apple.

When you think it through, it just doesn't add up, doesn't the recent gotofail SSL/TLS issue give you a clear picture on Apples level of competence at the moment?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanlon%27s_razor

brollyjohn wrote:

 

Yes. Very well put by Unix guru.

 

I got censored by the "religious" for no reason.

You were censored because you broke the Terms of Use for the site, that was the reason.

Beta 10.9.3 returns Calender and Contact syncing via iTunes and a computer.

So does the latest Beta iTunes update. It was posted a couple of pages back.

Pete

DieselFuelForLife wrote:

 

gumsie wrote:

I'm not sure that they completely removed local sync.

The only local storage of that data is the device backup.

 

I'm not sure if we're crossing wires. You can use OSX Server to sync contact and Calendars. This means it can still be local.

Oh and the trolls are very well fed around here. That's why they have so much energy to try and rile people.

If the next updates toiTunes and OS X have the SyncServices back. Will people who use SyncMate switch back to 100% Apple?

The concept that Apple did this deliberately is a ridiculous idea.

Hardly. You're obviously not at all familiar with Apple's recent history.

The latest iWorks Mac application "upgrades" that Apple released after Mavericks came out were lacking dozens of features users relied on, and although some have been added back, they still haven't re-implemented all of them.

Or the Final Cut Pro X release. Again, Apple released it lacking many features the previous version had, and only started slowly re-adding back some of those lost features in subsequent releases.

So, it's not like Apple hasn't released software lacking previous features before, only to add them back later.

If Apple was as devious as you insinuate,

I never suggested they were "devious". I simply said maybe the replacement for SyncServices (already deprecated 2 years ago), wasn't ready to be included in the initial release of Mavericks. If the local sync feature was planned to return (but in a different form), that could explain why Apple never made a big deal about its removal.

But since Apple rarely reveals their plans, or the reasoning behind their decisions, we'll probably never know.

why didn't they simply partner with any 3rd party sync developers last year to assist them making a solution for 10.9 when it was released?

How would I know? Perhaps no third-party developers had a workable solution back then? Eltima have only just come out with a beta FIVE months later.

TopSteve wrote:

 

If the next updates toiTunes and OS X have the SyncServices back. Will people who use SyncMate switch back to 100% Apple?

Quite possible. I think most people would choose a native solution over 3rd party given similar  functionality/reliability. A shame for Syncmate though.

So looks like I might be joining the Mavericks crew after all!

Syncmate still provides a great deal of granularity for the meticulous minded. Local Syncing for notes and reminders.

To answer my own post.  I as you all knows I use OSX server but I like SyncMate and if it had Notes in it I would stick with SyncMate.  I have not found a soulation that sync's Notes like(as easy) as the older OSX.  So I am sorry to say that if not for anything else I'll use the Mavericks system (if it do's come back) for Notes.

TopSteve wrote:

 

If the next updates toiTunes and OS X have the SyncServices back. Will people who use SyncMate switch back to 100% Apple?

I would. Though running the server is nice too for syncing between multiple devices, all the benefits of iCloud minus the privacy and security concerns. At least we'll have a choice again

Edit: Added to quote so it's more clear which post I replied to.

jayv. wrote:

 

I would. Though running the server is nice too for syncing between multiple devices, all the benefits of iCloud minus the privacy and security concerns. At least we'll have a choice again

Yes running a server is nice but not for evey one, as the admin and troubleshooting can need a little technal insight esp in networking.

Hey snozdop, I've disagreed with you elsewhere, so thought I'd chime in here that I'm with you on this part. I also think it's likely local syncing simply wasn't ready when Apple wanted to release Mavericks publicly.

What's odd to me is how Apple did it - no interim alternative and no public communication. That's a notable contrast not just to older choices over the company's history but even to other contemporary Mavericks issues like iWork.

But of course, we'll never know what actually happened...