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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by U.B.,

    U.B. U.B. Mar 20, 2014 7:25 AM in response to petermac87
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    Mar 20, 2014 7:25 AM in response to petermac87

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    Maybe it's called competition? I would use the Mac option before forking out $40 to a third party developer. But I won't do either, as iCloud's security and encrypment is superior anyway. As I think the majority that want local sync back will do.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

     

    Its not about hiding, we all know that. Its about principal. I want some control over my life. And it’s creepy to be followed everywhere you go virtually or in reality. I want my freedom to leave the house for an appointment when ever I feel like and without anyone knowing that this is what I was planning to do (I’m actually glad that neighbors would see me). In real life I have friends and they all have given to me their contact info. I do not have right to be giving away to the whole world what they gave to me in good faith. It’s my obligation to protect their personal info. That is why, I want the info to stay in my local network.

     

    This topic is about finding the way “to locally sync an iPhone” - iCloud is not the solution so please restrain yourself of promoting it. I’m aware of iCloud’s values and easiness, but this is not what many Mac users on this forum want. If I feel that someone pushes me toward iCloud, the more I become suspicious that something is hidden in that attention.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 20, 2014 7:47 AM in response to U.B.
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    Mar 20, 2014 7:47 AM in response to U.B.

    U.B. wrote:


    Its not about hiding, we all know that. Its about principal. I want some control over my life. And it’s creepy to be followed everywhere you go virtually or in reality

    Do you not use a cellphone? use a highway pass, or credit cards.

  • by Matt Schultz,

    Matt Schultz Matt Schultz Mar 20, 2014 7:51 AM in response to U.B.
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    Mar 20, 2014 7:51 AM in response to U.B.

    U.B. wrote:

     

    If I feel that someone pushes me toward iCloud, the more I become suspicious that something is hidden in that attention.

    Agreed, 110%. Every time I'm forced to walk into an Apple Store, same iCloud sales thing happens.

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Mar 20, 2014 7:57 AM in response to Matt Schultz
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    Mar 20, 2014 7:57 AM in response to Matt Schultz

    Matt Schultz wrote:

     

    Agreed, 110%. Every time I'm forced to walk into an Apple Store, same iCloud sales thing happens.

    What "iCloud sales thing"?

  • by Matt Schultz,

    Matt Schultz Matt Schultz Mar 21, 2014 10:41 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Mar 21, 2014 10:41 AM in response to Gerrit7

    Gerrit7 wrote:

     

    I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

    It appears that our requests to Apple have proven beneficial. Restoration of USB local sync is at hand. I will now be able to move some systems to 10.9.3.

     

    Everyone who complained should now say "thank you!"

     

    <Link Edited By Host>

  • by U.B.,

    U.B. U.B. Mar 20, 2014 9:59 AM in response to Csound1
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    Mar 20, 2014 9:59 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:


    Do you not use a cellphone? use a highway pass, or credit cards.

     

    Are you suggesting that I can be followed in those ways, too? Nooo.

     

    OK even if someone does not want to use a credit card can use cash, or instead of using a car can walk or go on a train, bus… Plus, no one goes around to tell me that I should walk or use a credit card - in fact some sales people would rather if they receive cash.

     

    That is exactly what we are saying here. It’s not necessary to persuade into using somebody elses server and give us local syncing back (contacts, calendar, reminders, notes and bookmarks) so that we can have a choice. Then I will judge for myself what is the best way for me and how can I lower the chances from my info to be misused.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 20, 2014 12:00 PM in response to U.B.
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    Mar 20, 2014 12:00 PM in response to U.B.

    U.B. wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:


    Do you not use a cellphone? use a highway pass, or credit cards.

     

    Are you suggesting that I can be followed in those ways, too? Nooo.

     

    OK even if someone does not want to use a credit card can use cash, or instead of using a car can walk or go on a train, bus… Plus, no one goes around to tell me that I should walk or use a credit card - in fact some sales people would rather if they receive cash.

     

    That is exactly what we are saying here. It’s not necessary to persuade into using somebody elses server and give us local syncing back (contacts, calendar, reminders, notes and bookmarks) so that we can have a choice. Then I will judge for myself what is the best way for me and how can I lower the chances from my info to be misused.

    And no one has to use iCloud. Or Window's SkyDrive or Google's Cloud. No commitment to use them whatsoever. Hundreds of millions of people do. Some don't. Some prefer ony to syc their mobile devices when they are near their computer. Too restrictive for many. What is your point? Do you have one?

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 20, 2014 12:08 PM in response to Matt Schultz
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    Mar 20, 2014 12:08 PM in response to Matt Schultz

    Matt Schultz wrote:

     

    U.B. wrote:

     

    If I feel that someone pushes me toward iCloud, the more I become suspicious that something is hidden in that attention.

    Agreed, 110%. Every time I'm forced to walk into an Apple Store,

    Next time someone attempts to force you just say no.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 20, 2014 12:09 PM in response to U.B.
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    Mar 20, 2014 12:09 PM in response to U.B.

    U.B. wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:


    Do you not use a cellphone? use a highway pass, or credit cards.

     

    Are you suggesting that I can be followed in those ways, too? Nooo.

    You live in a fantasy world then.

  • by lkrupp,

    lkrupp lkrupp Mar 20, 2014 12:38 PM in response to U.B.
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    Mar 20, 2014 12:38 PM in response to U.B.

    U.B. wrote:

     

    Csound1 wrote:


    Do you not use a cellphone? use a highway pass, or credit cards.

     

    Are you suggesting that I can be followed in those ways, too? Nooo.

     

    OK even if someone does not want to use a credit card can use cash, or instead of using a car can walk or go on a train, bus… Plus, no one goes around to tell me that I should walk or use a credit card - in fact some sales people would rather if they receive cash.

     

    That is exactly what we are saying here. It’s not necessary to persuade into using somebody elses server and give us local syncing back (contacts, calendar, reminders, notes and bookmarks) so that we can have a choice. Then I will judge for myself what is the best way for me and how can I lower the chances from my info to be misused.

     

    Stop with the hypocritical pontificating. If you don't like what's going on take your business elsewhere. It's as simple as that. All this simplistic moralizing and blathering about your privacy and choice in an increasingly homogenous, public, non-private society is just hot air. The NSA probably already knows more about you than iCloud ever will. If they can spy on the Chancellor of Germany you are easy pick'ins. And there's NOTHING you can do about it.

  • by hubertusbe,

    hubertusbe hubertusbe Mar 20, 2014 4:48 PM in response to TopSteve
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    Mar 20, 2014 4:48 PM in response to TopSteve

    TopSteve wrote:

     

    ...

     

    I hope all of this helps

     

    Thanks a lot for your good instructions and the links concerning syncing Notes -

     

    I'm going to try that way.

  • by Rust,

    Rust Rust Mar 20, 2014 9:25 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Mar 20, 2014 9:25 PM in response to Gerrit7

    Thank you Apple for listening to your customers and re-implementing local sync for calendars and contacts (these features are scheduled to return in the next OSX update).

     

    And thank you for all the users here who fought the good fight and didn't let the naysayers get them down.

     

    Woot!

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Mar 20, 2014 11:09 PM in response to lkrupp
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    Mar 20, 2014 11:09 PM in response to lkrupp

    I sure hope this puts an end to the sanctimonious pontificating and moralizing about privacy and choice on the Apple discussion forums. As was pointed out to one of the pontificating offended ones, the NSA probably already knows more about his calendar and contacts than iCloud ever will. And if the Chancellor of Germany can be spied on then his personal data is easy pick'ins in comparison. The constant moaning and whining of these types is quite irritating.

     

    There is a very good chance that the above is you being quoted from Apple Insider linked by Etresoft, (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong)? Hypocritical pontificating...... So, Pot - Kettle?

    If it's constant and irritating you are free to go elsewhere remember.

     

    This thread I'll wager is aimed primarily at those, who for whatever reason wanted a solution to a feature that was removed and has now been returned, or could help with its return. The OP doesn't own the thread of course and neither do any of us others but I'm pretty sure his intention wasn't to be besieged with answers like, 'If you don't like it move on, or 'No one is forcing you.......'

    In fact I'd suggest, (only he can confirm of course), that what he wanted was restoration of the original feature.

    Now the feature is still Beta, so hasn't been restored to the OS, the thread therefore is still active and valid. It is unfortunately full of people moaning about moaning which is twice as bad. Or would that be Moaning²?

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 21, 2014 1:52 AM in response to gumsie
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    Mar 21, 2014 1:52 AM in response to gumsie

    gumsie wrote:

     

    ....... a feature that was removed and has now been returned



    ...... Now the feature is still Beta, so hasn't been restored to the OS,

    Umm....yes Gumsie. Make up your mindl. You will only confuse people.

     

    Pete

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Mar 21, 2014 4:02 AM in response to gumsie
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    Mar 21, 2014 4:02 AM in response to gumsie

    gumsie wrote:

     

    I....

    This thread I'll wager is aimed primarily at those, who for whatever reason wanted a solution to a feature that was removed and has now been returned, or could help with its return. The OP doesn't own the thread of course and neither do any of us others but I'm pretty sure his intention wasn't to be besieged with answers like, 'If you don't like it move on, or 'No one is forcing you.......'

    In fact I'd suggest, (only he can confirm of course), that what he wanted was restoration of the original feature.

    ...

    The O.P. titled the thread where "iCloud is NOT an option" when he freely admitted it WAS an option that he CHOSE not to use for personal/political/fear reasons. That "can pay won'y pay" stance opens the whole argument up for the kind of debate that we have seen and enjoyed for months.

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