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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by j. michael,

    j. michael j. michael Mar 21, 2014 6:04 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Mar 21, 2014 6:04 AM in response to Gerrit7

    I've used Macs since 1986 and recently bought an iMac 27" - this is the first time I regret buying Apple.

     

    I nearly missed 2 doctor's appointments because my iPhone 5s wasn't picking up the appointments from my Mavericks calendar on the iMac.  These specialists appointments take many months to set up and charge penalties if I miss the appointments.  I have serious medical issues that are potentially life-threatening.

     

    I'm disgusted that Apple would  mess up MacOS and not even warn users  major inconveniences would occur when combining Mavericks with iOS and older MacOS devices.  My ISP account racked up huge uploads when I bought the iMac as iCloud backups were enabled by default.  I also did not appreciate being on the NSA library list for 24/7 personal data lookup without my permission.  That's why iCloud was turned off.  But at no time did Apple Support mention calendar syncing would fail without iCloud and that local syncing no longer existed.

     

    I am disgusted with Apple.  Apple is steering itself towards the level of contempt that I have for Windows and Android.  If this trend continues I will just consciously insulate myself from the mess that Apple is becoming.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 21, 2014 6:07 AM in response to j. michael
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    Mar 21, 2014 6:07 AM in response to j. michael

    Tell Apple: Apple.com/feedback

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Mar 21, 2014 7:57 AM in response to peter_watt
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    Mar 21, 2014 7:57 AM in response to peter_watt


    peter_watt wrote:

     

    The O.P. titled the thread where "iCloud is NOT an option" when he freely admitted it WAS an option that he CHOSE not to use for personal/political/fear reasons.

    Ok, great but I suspect it was still aimed at getting a non iCloud, (for whatever reason), way to sync contacts and calendars. I suspect he wasn't interested in having iClouds virtues extolled to him, or being ridiculed.

     

    peter_watt wrote:

     

    That "can pay won'y pay" stance opens the whole argument up for the kind of debate that we have seen and enjoyed for months.

    I gotta admit watching the blind argue against his decision/free choice has been funny.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 21, 2014 8:03 AM in response to gumsie
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    Mar 21, 2014 8:03 AM in response to gumsie

    gumsie wrote:


    Ok, great but I suspect it was still aimed at getting a non iCloud, (for whatever reason), way to sync contacts and calendars.

    No

     

    It was aimed at getting a local solution, a non iCloud solution is simple, use Google or Yahoo or any of the others.

     

    Local sync has fewer choices, and they're either more complex, or not free.

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Mar 21, 2014 8:12 AM in response to Csound1
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    Mar 21, 2014 8:12 AM in response to Csound1

    I have some free time to waste so here goes.

     

    Did you look at the title to this thread? Here it is again, if you click it you'll be taken to the first post, Whichever way you look at it, iCloud is out. Please consider not posting as a valid option before replying with something similar to diaper filler.....

    How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.'

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 21, 2014 8:18 AM in response to gumsie
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    Mar 21, 2014 8:18 AM in response to gumsie

    gumsie wrote:

     

    I have some free time to waste so here goes.

     

    Did you look at the title to this thread? Here it is again, if you click it you'll be taken to the first post, Whichever way you look at it, iCloud is out. Please consider not posting as a valid option before replying with something similar to diaper filler.....

    How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.'

    That is what I just said, the post is about local sync, so iCloud, Google, Yahoo and any other over the internet solution is out, can't you read?

     

    It was aimed at getting a local solution

    How does that suggest iCloud to you?

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Mar 21, 2014 8:24 AM in response to Csound1
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    Mar 21, 2014 8:24 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    gumsie wrote:

     

    I have some free time to waste so here goes.

     

    Did you look at the title to this thread? Here it is again, if you click it you'll be taken to the first post, Whichever way you look at it, iCloud is out. Please consider not posting as a valid option before replying with something similar to diaper filler.....

    How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.'

    That is what I just said, the post is about local sync, so iCloud, Google, Yahoo and any other over the internet solution is out, can't you read?

     

     

    It was aimed at getting a local solution

     

    How does that suggest iCloud to you?

    You are priceless, PRICE LESS. iCloud is OUT OUT OUT! Your axe has been ground back to just the handle by now surely?

    I say iCloud is out and you say it must be local, so what? iCloud is not an option. I know that last italicised bit isn't in white text so what's the problem?

     

    Oh, make that Decaf your having into a large Espresso on me. Please.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 21, 2014 8:27 AM in response to gumsie
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    Mar 21, 2014 8:27 AM in response to gumsie

    OK Gumsie

     

    For a solution that is not iCloud, use Gmail.

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Mar 21, 2014 10:52 AM in response to Csound1
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    Mar 21, 2014 10:52 AM in response to Csound1

    Everybody wrote;

    Let's all argue about issues and non-issues alike, stray off-topic on every other post & responding when there's no need, simply to try & get a reaction...

     

    Suggestions here -> http://www.apple.com/feedback/

  • by Steve Scandalis,

    Steve Scandalis Steve Scandalis Mar 21, 2014 11:54 AM in response to Chris CA
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    Mar 21, 2014 11:54 AM in response to Chris CA

    Yes, sending feedback through the official Apple feedback channel to provide feedback and requests to restore SyncServices and local USB/Wi-Fi syncing to OS X Mavericks and iTunes is more effective through Mac OS X Product Feedback at http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html or the similar iTunes feedback channel.

     

    That said, notice a pattern happening even if SyncServices might eventually return to Mac OS X 10.9.x Mavericks and beyond.  Countdown 4..3..2.. 

     

    One by one what syncs via SyncServices seems to be shrinking.   It's subtle, but the About SyncServices seems to be showing the countdown.   Syncing Notes is just as important as Contacts and Calendars for many users. I'm not sure how many people with OS X 10.7.x Lion use or will miss syncing Mail Setting and Bookmarks.

     

    About SyncServices http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5847 

     

    OS X Mountain Lion and earlier


    SyncServices is included as a framework in OS X Mountain Lion and earlier. It is used to synchronize the following data:

     

    1) Contacts, Calendars, Notes, and Mail settings between iCal, Address Book, Mail and third-party applications that utilize SyncServices with OS X Lion and earlier

     

    2) Contacts, Calendars, and Mail settings with Calendars, Contacts, Mail, and third-party applications that support SyncServices  <== Notes syncing is implied gone under Mountain Lion.

     

     

    Possible future return of SyncServices

     

    3) Possible return of SyncServices (not a given yet): If it happens, could it be only Contacts and Calendars supported?

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Mar 21, 2014 11:56 AM in response to Steve Scandalis
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    Mar 21, 2014 11:56 AM in response to Steve Scandalis

    I doubt Sync Services in the OS is returning.

    More likely Apple adds something to iTunes (which mimics what Sync Services in the OS didi).

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Mar 21, 2014 12:00 PM in response to petermac87
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    Mar 21, 2014 12:00 PM in response to petermac87

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    I don't have anything to hide. Do you?

    Relevance?

    So you'd be happy to let the police in to your house every night at 3AM to just to "check things out"?

    After all, you have nothing to hide...

  • by j. michael,

    j. michael j. michael Mar 21, 2014 12:30 PM in response to Csound1
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    Mar 21, 2014 12:30 PM in response to Csound1

     

    Tell Apple: Apple.com/feedback

    Done.

     

    Just left a piece of my mind about Mavericks, iTunes 11.1.5 on the Apple feedback website.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 21, 2014 12:38 PM in response to j. michael
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    Mar 21, 2014 12:38 PM in response to j. michael

    That's the ticket.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 21, 2014 1:37 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Mar 21, 2014 1:37 PM in response to Chris CA

    They don't do that in my country Chris. You are contradicting your earlier post about answering for answering's sake. Of you are going to do creative editing just to troll here, then it says very little about your input being trustworthy.

     

    Pete

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