Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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Hey folks, more information on NSA having access to iCloudhttp://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/nsa-infiltrates-links-to-y ahoo-google-data-centers-worldwide-snowden-documents-say/2013/10/30/e51d661e-41 6 6-11e3-8b74-d89d714ca4dd_story.html

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Yeah, this really makes me feel so much better about using iCloud (instert sarcasm here).

@handsOFFmydata

How is the export/import done?  Is this the way, using the export to create the vCard for Contacts and ics file for calendar?

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT5871

I assume that these files can be imported into Address Book and iCal on my iMac, or Macbook, not just my iPod.  This sounds like the hard way to get your Contacts and Calendar to your iPod, but I guess it would work.  Though I can't understand why Apple decided to make getting the info to our iPods so much harder and it is not really a sync so much as a replace data on iPod. Two steps back.

TIA

Andy

Think you're missing the point and lacking perspective; Apple did not warn of the removal of local sync capability in Mavericks and have exposed a lot of non-power-user's data to the Apple Data Harvesting App known as iCloud with it's joke security without any warning whatsoever.  For a European citizen this exposes them to prosecution under the various data protection acts should this information get into the wrong hands which, unless you live in a news bubble, is exactly what has just happened... The US Government is in flagrant breach of the 4th amendment as well as a whole bunch of international laws that they're signed up to.  As a European citizen, it is incomprehensible to me how any American citizen can tolerate this flagrant disregard of a constitutional right that was so hard won by their ancestors.. this behaviour is reminiscent of the Stasi of East Germany.  If you do not fiercely object to this criminal behaviour, then you do not deserve the constitutional protections you apparently do not understand.

@AndyD

On your Mac:

- in Calendar go File/Export/Calendar Archive ...

   it will create calendar archive in .icbu format.

- in Contacts ... same ... File/Export/Contact Archive ...

   it will create contact archive in .abbu format.

You can import the archives back to related apps to recover your data.

Hope this helps.

handsOFFmydata wrote:

 

KiltedTim North-East Ohio 

 

Oct 30, 2013 8:25 AM    (in response to Matt Schultz) 

Cloud storage and thin clients aren't even remotely similar. If you knew anything about networking, you'd know that.

 

Who cares ... from the gearhead point of view this might make a difference.

Who cares?  Well, if you care about FACTS at all, or you care about being ACCURATE in the information being provided, then you should care.

It is NOT all the same. It isn't even REMOTELY like being "cahined to a mainframe". Either you have absolutely NO concept about how these things work, or you're just full of bull.

Unless/until local syncing is fully restored I will never purchase Apple hardware, Mac software or any apps for my mobile devices. I should have known that the "free" OS upgrade would come with strings attached.

@handsOFFmydata

Thanks, that's what I thought, I just wanted to confirm.

With all the data loss opportunities I am just trying to protect myself.  I Apple would just give us the option in 10.9 as to where w keep/sync our Contacts and Calendars I would not be near as concerned as I already have a goo backup process in place for my data. I don't really trust third parties (including Apple) with my data security.

Just MHO, YMMV

Andy

Chris Portman wrote:

 

Think you're missing the point and lacking perspective

No, I'm not missing the point. The point is, this is a technical support forum. The feature was removed from Mavericks. Nothing anyone can say or do here will change that. Discussing Apple's policy decisions is prohibited by the TOS.

For a European citizen this exposes them to prosecution under the various data protection acts should this information get into the wrong hands which, unless you live in a news bubble, is exactly what has just happened...

Then call a lawyer.

The US Government is in flagrant breach of the 4th amendment as well as a whole bunch of international laws that they're signed up to.

Again, if it bothers you, call a lawyer. This is NOT the place for that discussion.

As a European citizen, it is incomprehensible to me how any American citizen can tolerate this flagrant disregard of a constitutional right that was so hard won by their ancestors..

Maybe you should educate yourself on how the American system of Constitutional law works, because you obviously do not understand it at all.

Apple is a private company. What they do has absolutely NOTHING to do with anyone's Constitutional rights.

Chris Portman wrote:

 

Think you're missing the point and lacking perspective; Apple did not warn of the removal of local sync capability in Mavericks and have exposed a lot of non-power-user's data to the Apple Data Harvesting App known as iCloud with it's joke security without any warning whatsoever.

What's actually worse IMHO are Apple's iCloud Terms & Conditions of Service:

• Apple states they will monitor your data and judge it. RE iCloud Terms and Conditions; Removal of Content

• Apple will provide your content to anyone they wish whether legally required or not. RE iCloud Terms and Conditions; Access to Your Account and Content

KiltedTim North-East Ohio 

 

Re: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

 

   Oct 30, 2013 1:47 PM    (in response to handsOFFmydata) 

 

handsOFFmydata wrote:

 

KiltedTim North-East Ohio 

 

Oct 30, 2013 8:25 AM    (in response to Matt Schultz) 

 

Cloud storage and thin clients aren't even remotely similar. If you knew anything about networking, you'd know that.

 

Who cares ... from the gearhead point of view this might make a difference.

Who cares?  Well, if you care about FACTS at all, or you care about being ACCURATE in the information being provided, then you should care.

 

It is NOT all the same. It isn't even REMOTELY like being "cahined to a mainframe". Either you have absolutely NO concept about how these things work, or you're just full of bull.

I think you are missing the point completely as was pointed out by multiple responders before. You are lost in the detail, bits and bytes, and missing the perspective.

It's not about the technology used, it's about how it is used and its impact on end user and society in general ... forest and trees ... I am so sorry!

handsOFFmydata wrote:

 

It's not about the technology used, it's about how it is used and its impact on end user and society in general ... forest and trees ... I am so sorry!

YOU ae missing the point entirely. This is a TECHNICAL SUPPORT forum. Bits and bytes. Technology. It is NOT a discussion forum for you to air your views on how a company, or a country, may be behaving like a totalitarian regime.

If you don't like it, GO AWAY. Buy something else!

KiltedTim North-East Ohio 

 

Oct 30, 2013 2:05 PM    (in response to handsOFFmydata) 

This is a TECHNICAL SUPPORT forum. Bits and bytes. Technology ...

... and the use of technology, functionality, user experience, problems associated with the approach … not just bits and bytes. This is what most of us here talk about … how limiting the new approach is, how the functionality was removed, how to work around the limitations, etc … oh, well …

Apple is a private company. What they do has absolutely NOTHING to do with anyone's Constitutional rights.

This is not a correct statement.

Thanx, Matt,  for repeating my points at the bottom of page 7.

Let me add: Under the heading Changing the Service, they can turn iCloud off at will (they don’t state how much warning they will provide). If the customer doesn’t have a local back up...

I strongly recommend that all readers read the Terms and Conditions posted here:

http://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/en/terms.html

Make your own interpretations.

Take what you feel are appropriate actions.

One more thing that has not been mentioned yet. It has been proposed in this thread to install OSX Server to remedy the local-sync-not-possible-problem (and for many this *is* a problem).

I'm running my system from a Samsung 840pro SSD connected to my iMac (late 2011) via Thunderbolt. Present generation SSDs are far less durable than traditional harddrives in terms of mid and long term data reliability. For instance, the 840 uses TLC nands in which one cell can be overwritten 1000 times .. then it is done.

Therefore, I set up my system (10.8.5) in a way that reduces write access when my iMac is idle. I managed to get 1 write access per second (by actions like moving the "logs" folder to the internal harddrive).

So .. if I install Mavericks and buy OSX Server .. how many writes per second will that add? How fast will my SSD wear out? And I'm the lucky one .. my SSD is external and can be replaced. What about the proud owners of rMBPs with builtin-SSDs that are difficult to replace? Running a server to sync contacts and calendar seems to me cracking a nut with a sledgehammer!

For those who have installed OSX server on Mavericks: please download "fseventer" from fernLightning software and take a look. I'd really like to know ..

phanam 

Oct 30, 2013 2:44 PM    (in response to Gerrit7)

One more thing that has not been mentioned yet. It has been proposed in this thread to install OSX Server to remedy the local-sync-not-possible-problem (and for many this *is* a problem).

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Running a server to sync contacts and calendar seems to me cracking a nut with a sledgehammer!

 

For those who have installed OSX server on Mavericks: please download "fseventer" from fernLightning software and take a look. I'd really like to know ..

Good points ... what is "fseventer", what does it do for Calendar and Contacts sync?

I am desperate to make things work locally as my business depends on this.