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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Mar 29, 2014 6:31 PM in response to Matt Schultz
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    Mar 29, 2014 6:31 PM in response to Matt Schultz

    I thought about this the other day when I was sitting on a plane without internet access. My laptop was on my tray, my iPhone was right next to it, and if I had been using Mavericks instead of 10.8.4, I would've needed to hurl my personal data out across the worldwide internet in order to sync two devices that were sitting 1/4" away from each other.

    You probably would, but wouldn't have to. I would have just used my Baïkal server on my laptop to sync the contacts and information. No worldwide internet required.

  • by Chris CA,

    Chris CA Chris CA Mar 29, 2014 6:37 PM in response to Matt Schultz
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    Mar 29, 2014 6:37 PM in response to Matt Schultz

    Matt Schultz wrote:

    Totally brainless, a huge waste of bandwidth, and an enormous waste of energy. I'd like to find out what iCloud's real carbon footprint is...

     

    Considering all Apple data centers (iCloud) are powered by 100% renewable energy (with over 60% generated onsite), it's not much.

    -> Apple and the Environment

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Mar 29, 2014 10:59 PM in response to Chris CA
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    Mar 29, 2014 10:59 PM in response to Chris CA

    You'd be surprised. Carbon footrpint is also about what it takes to get to where you are. There is also an environmental cost in the materials used to make your green energy.

    Not saying Apple are actually using hazardous materials but just bear in mind it's often a lot more than the glossy magazines and colourful webpages released to the press.

     

    One thing I am certain of is that those data centres, (as with most DC units), waste Kilowatt upon kilowatt to maintain data integrity. I wouldn't mind betting that they have N+3 redundancy for power supplies. I am well aware of how massive a compromise and difficult the subject of energy use against a running server environment is, but I assure you those places are not as green as you'd like. Wasted energy is wasted energy no matter where you get it.

  • by Garrett Cobarr,

    Garrett Cobarr Garrett Cobarr Mar 30, 2014 12:51 PM in response to peter_watt
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    Mar 30, 2014 12:51 PM in response to peter_watt

    Not sure what you mean by late, too late for opinions, observations?

     

    I upgraded to Mavericks a month ago, upgraded to a newer version of iOS 7 a week or so ago. I backed up, but I did not know, because Apple did not tell me, that the new data on my iPhone was not being synced. Lost the data. So I went looking for answers, isn't that what the forums are for?

     

    By the way, I had another post here. Telling people there is a solution coming. Posted a public news story about it and Apple censored/removed it.

     

    I have been using Apple computers and software since 1984, I've spent many multiples of thousands of dollars on them but I do not have slavish loyality. Apple is just a corporation, like any other.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 30, 2014 12:59 PM in response to Garrett Cobarr
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    Mar 30, 2014 12:59 PM in response to Garrett Cobarr

    Your posting was removed because it directly broke the Terms Of Use you agreed to when joining this site. You should be in receipt of an email as to why.

     

    Pete

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Mar 30, 2014 2:25 PM in response to Garrett Cobarr
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    Mar 30, 2014 2:25 PM in response to Garrett Cobarr

    Late because links to rumor sites indicating imminent salvation have been posted and this thread is obsolescent. If you say it was you who posted the link then I am even more confused why you made your subsequent statements.

  • by wiredancer,

    wiredancer wiredancer Mar 30, 2014 2:52 PM in response to Garrett Cobarr
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    Mar 30, 2014 2:52 PM in response to Garrett Cobarr

    ... I'm so aggravated about this issue of not being able to local sync, that I wrote a letter to Mr. Tim Cook a few weeks ago. I tried to use almost respectful words in explaining syncing problem... Against all believes of a few people on this forum (people that give the impression only to be on this forum to defend iCloud but not really to help), I got a call back from his office. At first I did not understand who was calling, but then I realized after the friendly lady mentioned Tim Cook... I was surprised and pleased that his office actually too the time to respond personally. So, they do look at everything that comes in and they respond.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 30, 2014 3:24 PM in response to wiredancer
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    Mar 30, 2014 3:24 PM in response to wiredancer

    So, what did they say?

     

    Pete

  • by Garrett Cobarr,

    Garrett Cobarr Garrett Cobarr Mar 30, 2014 6:53 PM in response to peter_watt
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    Mar 30, 2014 6:53 PM in response to peter_watt

    I did receive an email explaining that my conversation was censored, call it whatever you like. Never been a fan of managed corporate conversations.

     

    Apple hardware and software users come to the forums because we have little to no choice to find out what is going on with the technology we purchase from Apple, often for thousands of dollars. You have more or less ceased producing quality, accurate and complete documentation. Information has become a treasure hunt.

     

    I am not in habit of reading TOSs before I post on forums, as it relatively easy to avoid problems by being courteous and respectful. I find your suggestion that I broke the rules intentionally by posting a commonly known news item from a well known site, somewhat offensive.

     

    As you well know, because you read it, the post and link was intended to give hope to the thousands of unhappy users in this thread. Logic would suggest that would be good of Apple as well.

     

    Since you can pull posts and I cannot, you have the upper hand.

  • by Garrett Cobarr,

    Garrett Cobarr Garrett Cobarr Mar 30, 2014 6:54 PM in response to peter_watt
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    Mar 30, 2014 6:54 PM in response to peter_watt

    Do you consider ZDNet a rumor site?

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 30, 2014 9:22 PM in response to Garrett Cobarr
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    Mar 30, 2014 9:22 PM in response to Garrett Cobarr

    I can't and don't pull your posts. That is done by the moderators because you have broken an agreement you accepted. Don't try to blame anyone else. Do you ever sign other contracts without reading them? Your arguement, if it can be called that, is really poor.

     

    Pete

  • by gumsie,

    gumsie gumsie Mar 31, 2014 12:20 AM in response to Garrett Cobarr
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    Mar 31, 2014 12:20 AM in response to Garrett Cobarr

    Garrett Cobarr wrote:

     

    I am not in habit of reading TOSs before I post on forums

     

    Much as I can't say it's a good idea, a very refreshing piece of honesty there I must say. I didn't go through the entire thing when I joined either.

    Don't have any numbers to back it up, (just as no one else can easily refute it), but I'd suggest that the vast majority of people don't read any of, or if they do understand all of a T&C document when they come across it. That even goes as far as mortgage paperwork let alone something as mundane as an internet forum.

  • by petermac87,

    petermac87 petermac87 Mar 31, 2014 2:05 AM in response to gumsie
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    Mar 31, 2014 2:05 AM in response to gumsie

    It still doesn't excuse the consequences though. That is how companies protect themselves. Whether we like it or not, it's the old 'you should have read the fine print' scenario

     

    Pete

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 31, 2014 2:21 AM in response to Garrett Cobarr
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    Mar 31, 2014 2:21 AM in response to Garrett Cobarr

    Garrett Cobarr wrote:

     

    I am not in habit of reading TOSs before I post on forums,

    Do you make it a general rule to ignore Terms of Use, or only here?

     

    Since you can pull posts and I cannot, you have the upper hand.

    peter_watt can not edit or remove posts, no poster can do that, posts are removed by the moderators for transgressing the Terms of Use, but you would have no way of knowing when yours do.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Mar 31, 2014 2:22 AM in response to Garrett Cobarr
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    Mar 31, 2014 2:22 AM in response to Garrett Cobarr

    Garrett Cobarr wrote:

     

    Do you consider ZDNet a rumor site?

    Yes

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