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  • gumsie Level 4 (2,155 points)

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    So you just dropped by to inflame things again in this thread? Hate to see it lay dormant even after solutions have been given? Seems we have found our troll.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

    You are brilliant. All I can say to that is;

    Pot, kettle.

  • petermac87 Level 5 (7,360 points)

    Thank you.

     

    Pete

  • Csound1 Level 8 (46,900 points)

    gumsie wrote:

     

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    So you just dropped by to inflame things again in this thread? Hate to see it lay dormant even after solutions have been given? Seems we have found our troll.

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

    You are brilliant. All I can say to that is;

    Pot, kettle.

    Ahh, the 'Me Too' justification.

  • Matt Schultz Level 1 (55 points)

    Skakagrall wrote:

     

    Thanks for this. I was able to download SyncMate 5 beta 5.0.117 however syncing remains much as before. Has anyone managed to sync more than 500 contacts at a time? I can’t.

    I cannot either. Get about half or so out of our ~700 list.

  • fogr4 Level 1 (0 points)

    I had to create groups of about 400 each and was then able to sync everything from the mac to the iPhone. But once that's done, bidirectional sync of all the groups at once seems to work fine.

  • Csound1 Level 8 (46,900 points)

    fogr4 wrote:

     

    I had to create groups of about 400 each

    I have about 13,000 contacts, groups of 400 are no use to me.

     

    Thankfully there are other ways to sync contacts.

  • greenmind Level 1 (5 points)

    it is not viable for me either. as musically complete as the itunes musical library claims to be, hundreds of songs that I locally added to itunes, were not found in the cloud, when I had mavericks a couple of months ago. the cloud wouldn't be entirely a bad idea, if they gave the user the option of what they wanted to be in the cloud, and what they didn't. some users may have some data, they don't want or can't have in the cloud. I thought that I could just stay wt snow leopard, but suddenly I needed the latest version of flashplayer, and the only way I could download wt my mac, is by upgrade to maverick. I've used apple products for the past 30 years, but ever since Tim Cook took it over, the good name of mac, has turned to garbage. PC here I come.

  • petermac87 Level 5 (7,360 points)

    Goodbye and good luck.

     

    Pete

  • Chris CA Level 9 (78,690 points)

    greenmind wrote:

     

    it is not viable for me either. as musically complete as the itunes musical library claims to be, hundreds of songs that I locally added to itunes, were not found in the cloud,

    How did you get these songs into the cloud?

    Do you have iTunes Match?

    Aret hese iTune spurhcases?

    If not, the wont be in the cloud.

  • Garrett Cobarr Level 1 (125 points)

    greenmind wrote:

     

    it is not viable for me either. ... the cloud wouldn't be entirely a bad idea, if they gave the user the option of what they wanted to be in the cloud, and what they didn't. some users may have some data, they don't want or can't have in the cloud.

    You reminded me of mentioning another severe fault in the way iCloud works compared to the Local Sync worked prior to Mavericks. Under the Info tab in iTunes, now gone, you could control what Contacts were put into the iPhone or vice versa. The same was true with bookmarks for Safari.

     

    Now everything is on the iPhone, its overwhelming and unnecessary. As a researcher, I have thousands of bookmarks sorted into dozens of folders, none of these make sense on my iPhone, where the greatest use of Safari, for me, would be a brief lookup.

     

    iCloud would be far more powerful and return user choice if they provided some kind of device filtering. But I still want to have Local Sync back as soon as possible. I will repeat, if a user has one mobile device and one laptop or desktop, iCould makes no sense.

    I needed the latest version of flashplayer, and the only way I could download wt my mac, is by upgrade to maverick. I've used apple products for the past 30 years, but ever since Tim Cook took it over, the good name of mac, has turned to garbage. PC here I come.

    Here I have a bundle of sympathy, some strong agreement and some strong disagreement.

     

    The biggest mistake Apple made with the Mac public when they released Mavericks was not making it clearer what a significant change in technology it was. It was a major change under the hood.

     

    Apple instead spent most of their public communication effort on pointing out that Mavericks was free and gave the appearance that it was, in many ways, an incremental upgrade. I am used to the prospect of replacing this and that during an OS change, Mavericks required the replacement of a half dozen critical utilities that collectively added up to about $500. Some apps had to be upgraded as well, with further cost.

     

    One impact that has no direct dollar amount was the time it took to make the OS transition. I expect about 2 to 4 days, this move took nearly a month before everything was working without issues. Much could have been avoided if Apple produced complete documentation on their OS and software and made it easy to find. I am not interested in the urban legend on the Internet, or the gamble of Genius Bar or Apple care.

     

    I can appreciate the desire for Apple to make everything simple and easy to understand for the common computer user, I am a user experience designer, I get that. But in the past Apple always had an opportunity for the pros and the long term users to get the 'good stuff.' No longer.

     

    I have also been with Macs for a bit of time, Mac Plus in late 1984 and dozens after that, so I am, as well, coming to my 30 year anniversary. Here is where I start to disagree, Tim Cook has littel to do with this, the strategy was solidly in place long before he took the helm, devised by Steve Jobs. I deeply admire Jony Ive as a industrial designer, but as a UX and UI guy, not so much.

     

    Seriously, after 30 years on the Mac can you really entertain a move to the PC? I know I can't and that may be part of the problem with Apple, they know we, the long term users, can't move and new users will not know the differrence.

     

    The most we can all hope to do is raise our voices and maybe to put some bumps in the public relations parade.

  • beninabox Level 1 (0 points)

    I have another concern.  I am a musician and frequently record mp3s of my material or my band's material, which i can then load from itunes to my iPhone directly.  I've heard that iCloud only accepts purchased material.  Does that mean that with Mavericks I can never listen to my orignal stuff on my iPhone?

  • Chris CA Level 9 (78,690 points)

    beninabox wrote:

     

    I have another concern.  I am a musician and frequently record mp3s of my material or my band's material, which i can then load from itunes to my iPhone directly.  I've heard that iCloud only accepts purchased material. 

    No.

    iCloud does not "accept" any music.

    WIth iTunes Match (not the same as iCloud) you can upload your own music.

     

    Does that mean that with Mavericks I can never listen to my orignal stuff on my iPhone?

    No.

    You can sync your iPhone with iTunes on your computer to upload your music or use iTunes Match.--> http://www.apple.com/itunes/itunes-match/

  • applejpmc Level 1 (0 points)

    Seems with iTunes match you can do this - BUT.......

     

    You have to use iCloud to store everything and

     

    You have to pay Apple $ 24.99 oper annum subscription to get access to your own music on your own iphone.

     

    Another example of the duplicity of Apple in sneakily taking away USB syncing - profit as always wins out

  • snozdop Level 5 (5,800 points)

    @applejmc: Stop talking rubbish, yet again.

     

    The (temporary) removal of syncing contacts and calendars via USB never had any affect on music. You have always been able to sync music directly with iTunes over USB, at no cost.

  • Csound1 Level 8 (46,900 points)

    applejpmc wrote:

     

    Seems with iTunes match you can do this - BUT.......

     

    You have to use iCloud to store everything and

     

    You have to pay Apple $ 24.99 oper annum subscription to get access to your own music on your own iphone.

     

    Another example of the duplicity of Apple in sneakily taking away USB syncing - profit as always wins out

    Once more you are entirely incorrect.

     

    What's next?