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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Apr 16, 2014 5:03 AM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 16, 2014 5:03 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Happy to amuse you.

    Opps! me bad!   What gave me the :-)  was thinking, "I would have thought that internet services like iCloud would be devloped by a company in the contry that is 1st in internet speeds but it was a company in a cuntry that is 11th and was 15th"  I would have not had this funny thought if the link to the artical saying the US was 11th had not been posted.  I also was thinking "Why would the ablity for "local-sync" be disabled in a OS from a company that is from a country that is 11th, why would that company wate untell coverage at good speeds was better befor going down this route?"  that gave me a little giggle to.  

     

    So it was my thought that gave me the giggles but that thought was prompted by your post.

     

    As for the speeds you personaly get, I am envious!

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 16, 2014 5:13 AM in response to TopSteve
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    Apr 16, 2014 5:13 AM in response to TopSteve

    Out of 192 countries in the world the USA ranks 11th

     

    And you think that is bad?

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Apr 16, 2014 5:19 AM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 16, 2014 5:19 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Out of 192 countries in the world the USA ranks 11th

     

    And you think that is bad?

    Where did I say or say I thought that was bad?   No I don't think it's bad but it's not as good as 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 or 10th

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 16, 2014 5:19 AM in response to TopSteve
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    Apr 16, 2014 5:19 AM in response to TopSteve

    Then your complaints make no sense.

     

    Have a good day.

  • by TopSteve,

    TopSteve TopSteve Apr 16, 2014 5:23 AM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 16, 2014 5:23 AM in response to Csound1

    Csound1 wrote:

     

    Then your complaints make no sense.

     

    Have a good day.

    You post makes no sense.

     

    What complaints? I did not make any. 

  • by Drew Reece,

    Drew Reece Drew Reece Apr 16, 2014 6:18 AM in response to Skakagrall
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    Apr 16, 2014 6:18 AM in response to Skakagrall

    Skakagrall wrote:

     

    The options we have discussed are:

     

    1. OSX server — a kind of 'sledgehammer to crack a nut' solution, if you are only going to sync Contacts and Calendars.

    2. Baikal server — better scaled but lacking good documentation.

    3. SyncMate 5 beta — a workable solution if you can batch your contacts in groups of less than 500 and sync them individually.

     

    plus:

     

    4. A future solution that the ever-watchful monitors do not allow us to mention here.

     

    "iCloud is not an option". That what the discussion says, so by definition iCloud is off topic. I recommend ignoring the two or three individuals who have been trying (largely unsuccessfully) to disrupt the technical discussion here.

     

    Option 1 = 179MB download, which usually downloads even files more after you install, IIRC.

    Option 2 = 3.7MB download & a few thousand words of setup instructions (see the user tips).

    Option 3 = unknown size? (I'm not on the beta).

    Option 4 visit any Mac news site to read about how it appears to be returning to a newer OS X/ iTunes. The rumors may be untrue & Apple don't want to answer.

     

     

    Capt Billy, if a sync is going to take hours I'd expect the downloads to take even longer. Sorry I don't think you have much hope until Apple fix this.

    If you can find a higher speed connection you may be able to try Eltima's Syncmate beta. Failing that I would export from Calendars & Contacts apps on the Mac & try to import via email or using an app that handles local file copying. iOS should import but it will not handle merging or duplicate contacts etc - it's a one way import.

     

     

    Designed by Apple for California (not the ocean).

  • by Skakagrall,

    Skakagrall Skakagrall Apr 16, 2014 6:38 AM in response to Drew Reece
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    Apr 16, 2014 6:38 AM in response to Drew Reece

    Option 3 = unknown size? (I'm not on the beta).

     

    SyncMate 5 beta (now 5.0.121) is 29 megs.

  • by Ziatron,

    Ziatron Ziatron Apr 17, 2014 9:55 PM in response to Toack
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    Apr 17, 2014 9:55 PM in response to Toack

    Thing is, is there any valid reason to make iCloud sync mandatory?, oh apple, you have lost all my love for you.

     

    What if your data needs to be examined by “authorities” ?   Or you are involved in a divorce or lawsuit.  If you only use a wired connection to share your data this makes it more difficult for various parties to get at it.

     

    It's a part of being "Green".

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Apr 18, 2014 12:59 AM in response to TopSteve
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    Apr 18, 2014 12:59 AM in response to TopSteve

    Back on topic Topsteve...  You don't need even 2 mbps or 200kbps to sync contacts and calendar. I regularly update calendar on a cheap android phone using Apple icloud on 3g or Edge and my wife's phone picks it up in minutes. Anything ove a meg is purely for the video market.

     

    Ziatron, 128 bit encryption transmission and servers will always be the most secure part of your data storage, the least secure being the ex wife finding your phone.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 18, 2014 2:28 AM in response to Ziatron
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    Apr 18, 2014 2:28 AM in response to Ziatron

    Ziatron wrote:

     

    Thing is, is there any valid reason to make iCloud sync mandatory?, oh apple, you have lost all my love for you.

     

    What if your data needs to be examined by “authorities” ?   Or you are involved in a divorce or lawsuit.  If you only use a wired connection to share your data this makes it more difficult for various parties to get at it.

    So you prefer USB sync because it helps you to avoid compliance with lawful requests for information?

  • by greenmind,

    greenmind greenmind Apr 18, 2014 10:45 AM in response to Csound1
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    Apr 18, 2014 10:45 AM in response to Csound1

    The law and courts were able to act, before apple made the cloud mandetory, and even before before day timer planners existed. I don't think he was saying that he wanted to avoid lawful requests for information, but instead he was saying that he finds the cloud a little bit oppressing.  It is a new technology, and will of course be abused by authorities and the government some. Simply just accepting any and all changes is not always the brightest course of action. Only opposition can bring about change. I understand his fear, and have some myself. I do understand that I will have to self monitor more, the data I enter into our phone. Much like the Internet, everything is becoming both more excessible. Unfortunately wt more accesibility, comes a greater lack of privacy.

  • by peter_watt,

    peter_watt peter_watt Apr 18, 2014 11:46 AM in response to greenmind
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    Apr 18, 2014 11:46 AM in response to greenmind

    How is your icloud data accessible by anyone other than you? Please post examples.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 18, 2014 1:33 PM in response to peter_watt
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    Apr 18, 2014 1:33 PM in response to peter_watt

    peter_watt wrote:

     

    How is your icloud data accessible by anyone other than you? Please post examples.

    Subpoena

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Apr 18, 2014 1:35 PM in response to peter_watt
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    Apr 18, 2014 1:35 PM in response to peter_watt

    .

  • by Capt Billy,

    Capt Billy Capt Billy Apr 18, 2014 2:06 PM in response to Skakagrall
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    Apr 18, 2014 2:06 PM in response to Skakagrall

    Hi All,

    Thanks for all the thoughts and efforts. I was able to go into town and find an internet connection that allowed my to sync my contacts in less than an hour. Not too bad for the third world!! Keep pushing for a wired sync. I am going to sign off the thread so my mailbox is not filled with all of your messages... that take time too! and energy on my energy starved boat! Cheers and thanks,

     

    Bill

    SV Sunrise

    for blog, google: Sunrise, sailblog, calfee

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