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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by insol,

    insol insol Oct 31, 2013 4:42 AM in response to insol
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    Oct 31, 2013 4:42 AM in response to insol

    Just as a followup.  the radicale link works well but does not yet support contacts in apple's contacts (others using CardDAV work ok).   A couple of I-device specific links regarding reverse tether I posted must not have been apple friendly, thus removed by the mods...  You can find them on your own via google.

     

    @Brendt:  Syncmate as of the current version relies on sync services and will not work.  They do allude to some sort of solutionin thier next Version (5), but do not mention when this will be available

  • by Brendt,

    Brendt Brendt Oct 31, 2013 4:53 AM in response to insol
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    Oct 31, 2013 4:53 AM in response to insol

    Thanks insol, another hope down - syncmate.

     

    Cheers

    Brendt

  • by Brendt,

    Brendt Brendt Oct 31, 2013 5:38 AM in response to Brendt
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    Oct 31, 2013 5:38 AM in response to Brendt

    Contacts Kit INTSIG seems to be good for contacts and does not help for iCal.

     

    Additionally I doubt meanwhile that there is any working sw around because all the existing sw based probably on the former existing sync services.

     

    Compare Insols answer.

     

    Cheers

    Brendt

  • by jonfromdaleville,

    jonfromdaleville jonfromdaleville Oct 31, 2013 6:11 AM in response to Brendt
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    Oct 31, 2013 6:11 AM in response to Brendt

    Like I posted before. You can always restore from a time machine backup to a point before you installed Mavericks. Apple has not taken the ability to sync locally away from you. You are choosing to use software that does not support it.

  • by Arnorf,

    Arnorf Arnorf Oct 31, 2013 6:16 AM in response to Brendt
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    Oct 31, 2013 6:16 AM in response to Brendt

    Brendt,

    I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say. I too, want the freedom to choose with whom and where I share my data. As was pointed out to you, Apple is a US Company and subject to the laws of that country. The data they are forcing us to store in iCloud is kept in servers within the continental US. US data protection laws are nothing near as tight as they are in Europe. There are dozens of agencies within the US that can demand, without recourse to the courts, access to our personal data. I only takes one untrustworthy employee of these agenices to make all Apple's reassurance of safety and encryption absolutely useless. How many times have read of the laptop or memory stick left on the bus or train carrying gigabytes of personal data?

     

    I have an old ipod which we use to use as a back up for calendars, addresses and music. This device is not iCloud capable and now we can't even sync by USB. Apple's answer is that I should go out and buy another iPod!

     

    I am recently retired and can't nor shouldn't need to afford this expense. I shouldn't also be forced to pay the additional expense of data connection every time I turn my iPhone on, simply to synch with  iCloud.

     

    No this is a very bad move by Apple and I am as mad as ****! I am seriously looking at what alternatives I can use.

     

    By the way SyncMate won't work because Apple removed the wifi synch module with Maverick!!

  • by jonfromdaleville,

    jonfromdaleville jonfromdaleville Oct 31, 2013 6:18 AM in response to Arnorf
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    Oct 31, 2013 6:18 AM in response to Arnorf

    You can still sync older ipods locally.

     

     

    HERE

  • by Arnorf,

    Arnorf Arnorf Oct 31, 2013 6:20 AM in response to WiseJD
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    Oct 31, 2013 6:20 AM in response to WiseJD

    You missed the point buddy. iCloud is not an option for many of us out here in the Apple Community.

  • by Arnorf,

    Arnorf Arnorf Oct 31, 2013 6:31 AM in response to Michael Black
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    Oct 31, 2013 6:31 AM in response to Michael Black

    "There ain't no such thing as a free Lunch!" Everytime each and every person or organization buys an Apple device a portion of that purchase price goes to pay for the iCloud. I and everyone using Apple devices should have the freedom to use the iCloud or not to manage their personal data. Apple were not forthcoming with this iCloud doglead in their press releases or other advertising when they launched the "Free Upgrade". I'll leave others to speculate on why they didn't make this shackle obvious.

  • by jonfromdaleville,

    jonfromdaleville jonfromdaleville Oct 31, 2013 6:53 AM in response to Arnorf
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    Oct 31, 2013 6:53 AM in response to Arnorf

    I'm not here to speculate as to why Apple does anything. I'm here to provide technical assistance to those who are looking to resolve issues.

     

    If you want to locally sync you have three options.

     

    1. Setup a private local server and sync through that at your own expense.

     

    2. Restore back to a previous version of Mac OS X using a Time Machine Backup.

     

    3. Find a company's product that offers you what you want.

  • by Z001,

    Z001 Z001 Oct 31, 2013 7:04 AM in response to jonfromdaleville
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    Oct 31, 2013 7:04 AM in response to jonfromdaleville

    jonfromdaleville

     

    Hope you are not from Apple. Would be interesting to see what Tim Cook would make of your last recommendation...if nothing else, he must be still interested in customers that bring him money.

     

    Which forum discusses the consumer experience aspect of recommended solutions? Your first recommendation is for gearheads (no disrespect, but I am not sure how many 'ordinary' users dare to take that route), option two has its risks too, not to mention the inconvenience.

     

    Please do not take this personally (if you are not from Apple), but it frutrates me that Apple does not provide any help for its customers. (BTW the latest Google / NSA news today do not increase my confidence with cloud...)

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Oct 31, 2013 7:16 AM in response to Z001
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    Oct 31, 2013 7:16 AM in response to Z001

    NO ONE here is from Apple. This is a USER forum.

     

    All of these forums are for technical support. If you want to discuss anything outside of that focus, you will have to find another forum that is not hosted by Apple.

     

    Most "ordinary" users are not tin-foil-hat paranoid. Anyone who thinks that not keeping your contacts and calendar information in the cloud will protect them from NSA snooping is dreaming. Why does the NSA need your contact list? They know everyone you've ever called, or who has called you, they know who you correspond with via e-mail, heck, they know who you correspond with via plain old snail mail... Face it, you have no privacy left when it comes to communication at all.

  • by jonfromdaleville,

    jonfromdaleville jonfromdaleville Oct 31, 2013 7:28 AM in response to Z001
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    Oct 31, 2013 7:28 AM in response to Z001

    I'm not from Apple. I'm a user just like you who likes to help people solve their problems on this forums.

     

    I don't participate in forums that discuss experiances or speculations. That's not my interest.

     

    I'm not trying to be rude, but maybe this is the time you learn not to update until you know the consequences. Most people that are "gearheads" as you call them don't update software to new versions without first letting people test it for them to avoid consequences of things just like this.

     

    Again not being rude, but just because you are ignorant to the consequences does not make it anyone elses fault but your own.

  • by jonfromdaleville,

    jonfromdaleville jonfromdaleville Oct 31, 2013 7:32 AM in response to jonfromdaleville
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    Oct 31, 2013 7:32 AM in response to jonfromdaleville

    One more thing.

     

    If you are that worried about the NSA or other people getting your information. Here's a tip.

     

    The NSA can gather your locally stored data on almost any network connected to the internet in any way. They can get into your computer at home and mine your data just as easily as they can "ask" Apple for it.

     

    Have a great day!

  • by Z001,

    Z001 Z001 Oct 31, 2013 7:34 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Oct 31, 2013 7:34 AM in response to KiltedTim

    KiltedTim

     

    ...well, I am a user, maybe not a geek.....Most of us here are not looking for just a technical answer (strictly speaking) but a usable SOLUITION. The fact that something is technically possible, does not automatically validate it as a viable solution (other than for the geeks)....(Apologise to all other kind participants offering their ideas and experience here, but KiltedTim's constant anger has affected me, it seems...)

     

     

    The number of views to this and similar discussions suggest I am not alone with my 'paranoia'...

     

    Your last paragraph is off-topic, to use your definitions....

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Oct 31, 2013 7:40 AM in response to Z001
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    Oct 31, 2013 7:40 AM in response to Z001

    Well, what you can get here is a technical answer. The fact is that you can not sync contacts and calendars locally via USB with Mavericks. There is no other answer. If that doesn't present you with a viable "solution", then downgrade from Mavericks to a previous version of OS X.

     

    If that's not acceptable to you... well, no amount of whining about it is going to alter reality.

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