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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by BigBopper,

    BigBopper BigBopper Nov 1, 2013 7:49 AM in response to Michael Black
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    Nov 1, 2013 7:49 AM in response to Michael Black

    Syncing via USB or WiFi definitely does not work. One area where it fails miserably is podcasts. It used to be the case that I could control which podcast and episodes were synced to my iPhone and the played/unplayed status was synced as well. When I had a partially played episode, the resume point was also synced. with Mavericks and IOS 7, that no longer works. Every time that I open up Podcasts on my iPhone, it want to download new copies of episodes that are already on my Mac. And the set of available episodes and their status are different.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 1, 2013 7:51 AM in response to BigBopper
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    Nov 1, 2013 7:51 AM in response to BigBopper

    This has absolutely NOTHING to do with the issue being discussed.

  • by BigBopper,

    BigBopper BigBopper Nov 1, 2013 8:05 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 1, 2013 8:05 AM in response to KiltedTim

    Why is syncing of podcasts via iTunes not a part of the large discussion of sync issues. I want to sync the podcast episodes and their status between my Mac PRo and my iPhoen locally, nto through the cloud. That used to work but is now broken. In the iTunes screen, it gives me various options on syncing podcasts.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 1, 2013 8:10 AM in response to BigBopper
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    Nov 1, 2013 8:10 AM in response to BigBopper

    Because the discussion centers entirely on the removal of Sync Services from OS X Mavericks. Sync Services was used to sync local calendars and contacts with iOS devices.

     

    It has nothing to do with syncing podcasts or maintaining the state of podcasts across devices.

     

    Start a new thread.

  • by eisenrotz,

    eisenrotz eisenrotz Nov 1, 2013 8:36 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 1, 2013 8:36 AM in response to KiltedTim

    the center of this discussion has absolutely nothing to do with good advanced services and a good relationship with users/customers (not only consumers) and their own free choice in using their devices. this relation is disturbed with Apples practice on that functions. and obviously for many people not only a hypothetical problem in everyday life and business. Ok, we won't stop to progress and develop, so sometimes there is a bitter pill, new interface or what ever . . . but this step is simply redundant and annoying.

     

    (gave two feedbacks to Apple and signed a petition . . . for now I stop making contacts ;-)

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 1, 2013 8:40 AM in response to eisenrotz
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    Nov 1, 2013 8:40 AM in response to eisenrotz

    This is a technical support forum. Not someplace for you to come and whine about what you percieve as poor customer service.

     

    You're a troll. Go away.

  • by handsOFFmydata,

    handsOFFmydata handsOFFmydata Nov 1, 2013 9:07 AM in response to pulot pulot1
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    Nov 1, 2013 9:07 AM in response to pulot pulot1

     

    Nov 1, 2013 5:17 AM    (in response to pulot pulot1

    ah, and an article by a real person about this --

    http://securityspread.com/2013/10/27/setting-sync-server/

     

    Thanks for the link … good info … and for your other post.

     

    I gave up after repeated failure to import contacts archives. I have not even tried calendar sync as I need both syncing with iPads via USB while running OSX server on a stand alone personal computer.

     

    I see the difference between these instructions and what the German guy posted. That seems to me to be a potential reason for my failure … difference in setting link accounts on client side.

     

    I might give it another try when I have a day or two to waste …

  • by Matt Schultz,

    Matt Schultz Matt Schultz Nov 1, 2013 9:45 AM in response to ChrisW£
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    Nov 1, 2013 9:45 AM in response to ChrisW£

    ChrisW£ wrote:

     

    Hi,

         are you saying that Apple delete their copy of the data when one stops using iCloud? I thought someone else said they archive it.

     

    If they delete it my method is better than I thought, the data would only be exposed for the short time it is on their server. However, it still does use some broadband data allowance but only while I have it turned on rather than continually.

     

    I'm thinking a script to run might be an interim solution (to save my old brain having to remember all the steps and commands). Not sure I would want to do it for my business contacts though, there are lots of them, and I wouldn't want to expose that data until I know more about whether Apple do delete it.

    From what I've read, there's limited backup at Apple on individual iCloud accounts, especially the free accounts - I doubt they replicate that data anywhere or even care much about it. If the copy on their disks is deleted almost immediately, there's probably a 0% chance of it's being replicated.

     

    Since it's only Contacts & Calendar data, that's really not big bandwidth at all. It should go quickly.

     

    Your process looks really promising:

     

    1. Sync Contacts & Calendar with iCloud

    2. Let iCloud sync iDevices & Macintoshes

    3. Copy/duplicate database files on Macs, relocate temporarily

    4. Turn off iCloud (deletes iCloud data)

         4.1 iCloud will delete Contacts & Calendar on Mac

         4.2 iCloud will ask if Contacts & Calendar on iDevices should stay, select yes

    5. Move database copies of Contacts & Calendar back to their operating location on Mac

     

    Sync complete!

     

    I like it this method because (1) iCloud won't drag my iPhone to a grinding halt on a multiple basis daily because it's been turned off; (2) no server install/maintenance; (3) it's free; and, (4) it leverages 10.9's system against itself :-)

  • by handsOFFmydata,

    handsOFFmydata handsOFFmydata Nov 1, 2013 9:45 AM in response to Matt Schultz
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    Nov 1, 2013 9:45 AM in response to Matt Schultz

    Yes, this worked same for me too ...

     

    Your process looks really promising:

     

    1. Sync Contacts & Calendar with iCloud

    2. Let iCloud sync iDevices & Macintoshes

    3. Copy/duplicate database files on Macs, relocate temporarily

    4. Delete iCloud data

         4.1 iCloud will delete Contacts & Calendar on Mac

         4.2 iCloud will ask if Contacts & Calendar on iDevices should stay, select yes

    5. Move database copies of Contacts & Calendar back to their operating location on Mac

     

    Sync complete!

     

    ... when I was connected to Internet.

     

    It is a good workaround when connected, does not work in the field w/o connectivity.

  • by Matt Schultz,

    Matt Schultz Matt Schultz Nov 1, 2013 9:48 AM in response to handsOFFmydata
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    Nov 1, 2013 9:48 AM in response to handsOFFmydata

    Yes, unfortunately that is true.

     

    But our only other option is to set up a server at our office, so I'd only be able to sync while I was at the office. Similar constraints - I'm not there every day.

     

    This is simpler (for us). At least I could sync while at home or on the road in a hotel or something....

  • by SantaBarbaraRealtor,

    SantaBarbaraRealtor SantaBarbaraRealtor Nov 1, 2013 10:00 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Mac OS X
    Nov 1, 2013 10:00 AM in response to Gerrit7

    With this insidious update, how do you trust Apple, now? Not so much. And it was FREE. Wow, how nice of them. And maybe tell us things like this before we update?

    I was a paying MobileMe client, and boy, did I regret that. I had to go to the Genius Bar about 10 times before I found someone who could fix the 40,000+ contacts that duplicated my 4,000+ actual contacts. So frustrating. I turned off MobileMe on their advice and never looked back. I have avoided this iCloud since then. I just tried it, so I'm hoping I don't start the duplicating problems from before.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 1, 2013 10:14 AM in response to SantaBarbaraRealtor
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    Nov 1, 2013 10:14 AM in response to SantaBarbaraRealtor

    Why don't you tell us who is holding a gun to your head and forcing you to update to mavericks?

  • by handsOFFmydata,

    handsOFFmydata handsOFFmydata Nov 1, 2013 10:26 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 1, 2013 10:26 AM in response to KiltedTim

    Gee ... could you get less personal and more technical in your performance on this technical forum.

     

    Tell us how to set the OSX server on a personal computer so it correctly syncs calendar and contacts locally for example ... then your contributions here will have some merit.

  • by Arnorf,

    Arnorf Arnorf Nov 1, 2013 10:29 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 1, 2013 10:29 AM in response to KiltedTim

    KiltedTim -

     

    I wondered how long it take you to resort to name calling!

     

    BTW - Apple is watching! just had my post suggesting petition, email and Facebook entries pulled by noreply@apple.com.

  • by IdrisSeabright,

    IdrisSeabright IdrisSeabright Nov 1, 2013 10:40 AM in response to Arnorf
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    Nov 1, 2013 10:40 AM in response to Arnorf

    Arnorf wrote:

     

    BTW - Apple is watching! just had my post suggesting petition, email and Facebook entries pulled by noreply@apple.com.

    No, Apple isn't watching. Posts are pulled when they are reported to the Hosts by your fellow users for TOU violations. 

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