Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I would not have upgraded to Maverick had I known I would lose control to sync with iTunes. I am not pleased and I will not recommend to others.

Yes, this is truly a very big deal. We simply *must* have the choice to sync locally. It's critically important and a large oversight by Apple to not at least warn users of such a big change.

nick

Some hope on the horizon, even if it is unclear how far. Just got this message from the SyncMate team:

"...unfortunately, the current version of SyncMate is not compatible with Mac OS 10.9 yet.

However, I would like to let you know that we are at the middle of the developing process of the new major SyncMate upgrade - 5.x version, where we will include our own developed synchronization driver, and it will be fully compatible with OS X Mavericks. Unfortunately, we still have no estimated release terms, but we will notify our customers with a newsletter, once it is done.

I have not yet used SyncMate, so I have no experience with it at all, but seems a simple and practical enough app...once it works again.

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Amazing thing to see.

I agree. It's all about market share. But they underestimated a big part of their client base. Our company lost over 100 hours on this issue and for now will have to downgrade back to Mountain Lion.

You make a very good point about how apple will deal with this in Germany. The possibility of legal problems in Germany may eventually lead to apple being forced to make changes.

Danke Deutschland! For taking the lead in this defense of all our privacy.

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Apple isn't watching? Ok, let's look at the TOU in detail.

1.5 Apple retains the right, but not the responsibility, to edit or remove any Submission, including those deemed by Apple to violate the Agreement.

1.6 Apple involvement. Apple may respond to questions but does not formally provide technical support on the Site.

1.7 Apple may offer you benefits and award privileges for your participation in the Site. The benefits and privileges provided do not create an employee, agency or independent contractor relationship between you and Apple, and you may not present yourself as a spokesperson for Apple.

1.8 Apple may use "cookies" and other technologies to track user activity within the Apple Support Communities.

1.11 By using the Site, you agree to receive certain communications from Apple in connection with Apple Support Communities.

There are more examples but still "Apple isn't watching". Incredible naivety.

Simply, You're signing in with an APPLE ID. Apple is watching. Closely.

I think, the best forum are the daily newspapers.

They're waiting on news like this. Specially while we have all the Snowd´... discussions.

In Germany, a politic has just travelled to Moscow, meeting E:S.

And here are talks about  a meeting in german government. (What I dont believe)

I must say, I am a loyal Apple user since decades and I was alway, say mostly satosfied.

But the way of changes reaches a level I cannot support anymore.

if the  negative feedback goes higher, Apple will think about the decisions, they make.

Another thing is the pull of "open folders in new window" in Mavericks.

And, who like glued MacBooks, glued batteries etc.I dont.

Apple must rethink the way, to listen to his customers. And we customers must give feedback, what we

need and what we want.

If we dont, they sell us what THEY  want. My opinion.

brollyjohn wrote:

 

Apple isn't watching? Ok, let's look at the TOU in detail.

So, you actually believe Apple personnel are reading every post? Talk about naivete! Or simple failure of logic.

I remind you that my post was taken OFF, minutes after I posted it.  I then put it on my site, so you can still read it there, but I was miffed.

I don not know if it was removed by someone actually reading it, or rather that there is an automatic check, or thirdly whether some automatic check brings "dubious" posts to the attention of a real person who then takes the last decision.  The latter seems the most likely.

Fact remains: my post was taken off.  Someone or something reads every post.

RobertCailliau wrote:

 

 

Fact remains: my post was taken off.  Someone or something reads every post.

Yes, it was reported by a fellow user. Once a post is brought to the Hosts attention, they then read and evaluate it for TOU violations. If none of your fellow users reported it, it would likely not have gotten deleted as the Host do not have time to read every post that comes through.

Matt Schultz wrote:

 

ChrisW£ wrote:

 

Hi,

     are you saying that Apple delete their copy of the data when one stops using iCloud? I thought someone else said they archive it.

 

If they delete it my method is better than I thought, the data would only be exposed for the short time it is on their server. However, it still does use some broadband data allowance but only while I have it turned on rather than continually.

 

I'm thinking a script to run might be an interim solution (to save my old brain having to remember all the steps and commands). Not sure I would want to do it for my business contacts though, there are lots of them, and I wouldn't want to expose that data until I know more about whether Apple do delete it.

From what I've read, there's limited backup at Apple on individual iCloud accounts, especially the free accounts - I doubt they replicate that data anywhere or even care much about it. If the copy on their disks is deleted almost immediately, there's probably a 0% chance of it's being replicated.

 

Since it's only Contacts & Calendar data, that's really not big bandwidth at all. It should go quickly.

 

Your process looks really promising:

 

1. Sync Contacts & Calendar with iCloud

2. Let iCloud sync iDevices & Macintoshes

3. Copy/duplicate database files on Macs, relocate temporarily

4. Turn off iCloud (deletes iCloud data)

     4.1 iCloud will delete Contacts & Calendar on Mac

     4.2 iCloud will ask if Contacts & Calendar on iDevices should stay, select yes

5. Move database copies of Contacts & Calendar back to their operating location on Mac

 

Sync complete!

 

I like it this method because (1) iCloud won't drag my iPhone to a grinding halt on a multiple basis daily because it's been turned off; (2) no server install/maintenance; (3) it's free; and, (4) it leverages 10.9's system against itself :-)

Before the contributor from Ohio gives us a smack for being off topic. This method works for me. It means I now have to manually up date Calendars and Contacts on this iMac, a Macbook, my iPhone 4s and my wife's old iPhone, that she can't connect to the internet and therefore iiCloud, because we can't afford it. Thank Matt

Meg St._Clair wrote:

 

Arnorf wrote:

 

BTW - Apple is watching! just had my post suggesting petition, email and Facebook entries pulled by noreply@apple.com.

No, Apple isn't watching. Posts are pulled when they are reported to the Hosts by your fellow users for TOU violations. 

Please forgive me, I know this is off topic. But I have to correct your last statement. Post are only removed by the Host when reported by users that have been awarded minimum Level 2 status from the very Apple organization that you say isn't watching!!

Arnorf wrote:

 

Please forgive me, I know this is off topic. But I have to correct your last statement. Post are only removed by the Host when reported by users that have been awarded minimum Level 2 status from the very Apple organization that you say isn't watching!!

Not sure how that's a correction. People with Level 2 status are still your fellow users. And those points they got to become Level 2 were award by their fellow users for helpful responses.

I am just checking possibilities and depending on your knowledge and needs until now i found ...

Solution A) a local running Server and/or Intranet Server

1. Owncloud - https://owncloud.com

2. OS X Server
 ( via AppStore & not for free! )

3. Open Source Part of OS X Server: http://trac.calendarserver.org

How to´s: http://www.ronregev.com/misc/pim_server_tutorial/

Solution B) a local running Software / App

1. syncmate -> still NOT ready for Mavericks but they work on a solution !!!

- € 36 -> https://itunes.apple.com/de/app/syncmate-plus/id423327943

Who said anything about apple personnel reading every mesage? Applications that flag certain keywords apple deems damaging to the brand or in cases of profanity for example. It's not uncommon at all.

Yet another reason to stay away from icloud. Seemingly false claims about the safety of your icloud Keychain.

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2013/10/apple-claim-that-icloud-ca n-store-passwords-only-locally-seems-to-be-false/

I hope syncmate works soon. Nice advice mori-muc.

I don't understand. Why would Apple lie like this? This is a stunning falsehood.