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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by Ptit-Loup,

    Ptit-Loup Ptit-Loup Nov 4, 2013 11:12 AM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 4, 2013 11:12 AM in response to Gerrit7

    I understand that from Apple standpoint how to locally sync my iPhone with Mavericks without relying on iCloud is not a technical issue.

     

    Wether technical or not is not the point. Unfortunately for Apple, it is an issue. I foresee three solutions :

    - don't sync anymore, after all I use my iPhone for phone calls and my computer for everything else, non real need to sync,

    - sync my iPhone on my future PC,

    or

    - sync my future non-Apple mobile phone on my Mac.

  • by Marc Wilson,

    Marc Wilson Marc Wilson Nov 4, 2013 12:05 PM in response to Ptit-Loup
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    Nov 4, 2013 12:05 PM in response to Ptit-Loup

    - sync my future non-Apple mobile phone on my Mac.

     

    People randomly come up with this... I'd like to ask... exactly what will you be syncing it with?  Via what method?  An android phone will just laugh at you, a blackberry needs the same SyncServices that Mavericks removed.

     

    Is it just posturing?

     

    What is this non-Apple mobile phone the paranoids are threatening to buy?

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 4, 2013 12:09 PM in response to Marc Wilson
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    Nov 4, 2013 12:09 PM in response to Marc Wilson

    Marc Wilson wrote:

     

    What is this non-Apple mobile phone the paranoids are threatening to buy?

    Black only

     

    Screen Shot 2013-11-04 at 2.09.03 PM.png

  • by Marc Wilson,

    Marc Wilson Marc Wilson Nov 4, 2013 12:23 PM in response to Marc Wilson
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    Nov 4, 2013 12:23 PM in response to Marc Wilson

    a blackberry needs the same SyncServices that Mavericks removed.

     

    Actually correcting my own information... if you have a BB10 device, some features are still available through Blackberry Link, which doesn't use SyncServices.

     

    So I suppose the paranoids could buy a Q10.

     

    http://btsc.webapps.blackberry.com/btsc/viewdocument.do?noCount=true&externalId= KB35311&sliceId=2&cmd=&forward=nonthreadedKC&command=show&kcId=KB35311&ViewedDoc sListHelper=com.kanisa.apps.common.BaseViewedDocsListHelperImpl

  • by drbarney2,

    drbarney2 drbarney2 Nov 4, 2013 2:10 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 4, 2013 2:10 PM in response to Gerrit7

    Actually in my case it is the iPad that I cannot locally sync with my iMac computer. My iPhone is not a problem as I sync it on my PC using iTunes...

     

    Interesting that Apple led me to believe that OS X was an add-on to the up date of the Mountain Lion versus a total replacement for the Mountain Lion OS... Very bad stuff here! Sort of a wolf in sheep's clothing....

  • by zero_duke,

    zero_duke zero_duke Nov 4, 2013 2:37 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 4, 2013 2:37 PM in response to Gerrit7

    There was a time when we were proud of Apple.  But when they decide to invade our privacy this way, we are not. Now they are pushing us to submit private information or keep it  outdated.  Shame on you.  Please, Steve... come back!

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 4, 2013 2:52 PM in response to zero_duke
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    Nov 4, 2013 2:52 PM in response to zero_duke

    Your necromantic skills are severely lacking... I'm afraid your plea will go unanswered.

  • by drowningindata,

    drowningindata drowningindata Nov 4, 2013 3:42 PM in response to zero_duke
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    Nov 4, 2013 3:42 PM in response to zero_duke

    Since the local sync problem on this forum is about privacy and iCloud (as well as about the convenience of local sync), forum members might find the following article pertinent:

     

    NIST (National Institute of Standards and Technology) to Review Standards After Cryptographers Cry Foul Over NSA Meddling

     

    The federal institute that sets national standards for how government, private citizens and business guard the privacy of their files and communications is reviewing all of its previous recommendations.

    The move comes after ProPublica, The Guardian and The New York Times disclosed that the National Security Agency had worked to secretly weaken standards to make it easier for the government to eavesdrop.

     

    http://www.propublica.org/article/nist-to-review-standards-after-cryptographers- cry-foul-over-nsa-meddling?utm_source=et&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=dailynews letter

     

    What is Apple's point of view on this since iCloud is a security/privacy/encryption issue?

     

    User's reliance on cloud security is a critical issue. Since current encryption standards look to be reviewed and changed shouldn't local sync be available as an alternative, and ongoing user choice?

  • by drbarney2,

    drbarney2 drbarney2 Nov 4, 2013 3:58 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 4, 2013 3:58 PM in response to Gerrit7

    I totally agree w/drowningindata's point regarding we should be given the choice to use iCloud or sync locally... Other thatn Apple wanting ot get into everyone's contacts for their own personal gain to push their products what other reason might they want us to use iCloud to sync contacts, etc.???? Big "Apple" Brother!

  • by MacProf,

    MacProf MacProf Nov 4, 2013 4:47 PM in response to Gerrit7
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    Nov 4, 2013 4:47 PM in response to Gerrit7

    I was NOT happy at all about this, but have figured out a workaround. I checked "contacts" in my mail Settings (having already checked "calendars," and of course "mail." It automatically synced all of my contacts without any problem. (I removed the contacts on my iPhone when asked after checking contacts so that I wouldn't have any duplicates.

    The other benefit of this is that I will no longer have to use iTunes to do the syncing.

    Aneil

  • by brollyjohn,

    brollyjohn brollyjohn Nov 4, 2013 5:00 PM in response to MacProf
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    Nov 4, 2013 5:00 PM in response to MacProf

    I'm not sure where you checked contacts Aneil. Could you explain that in more detail please?

     

    There might be yet another option besides setting up a server.

     

    It's called DiskAid from DigiDNA. It does all sorts of syncing but not calender for some reason. Turns your iphone into a storage device as welll. Available on Macupdate.com. It's more expensive than OSX server though.

     

    Here's the link to diskaid

    http://www.digidna.net/diskaid

     

    Has anyone used this yet? Don't want my hopes to be dashed again.

     

    This new post-local sync osx platform model with users having to rely on 3rd party core apps is starting to resemble windows circa 1998. And we all know how well that model played out in the end.

  • by RobertRTillman,

    RobertRTillman RobertRTillman Nov 4, 2013 5:17 PM in response to drowningindata
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    Nov 4, 2013 5:17 PM in response to drowningindata

    1. Apple has removed sync services in OS X Mavericks. Therefore, you cannot sync Outlook 2011 with Contacts or Calendar.

     

    2. Apple has removed the ability to sync through iTunes in OS X Mavericks, so that, even if you use Contacts and Calendar on the Mac, you can only sync them with your iPhone through iCloud, thus exposing all your contacts and calendar information to the mercies of the Web.

     

    3. Microsoft does not not support CalDAV and CardDAV in Outlook, so there is no way to sync directly through iCloud, except perhaps by setting up a Microsoft Exchange account.

     

    4. Apple makes it extremely difficult (virtually impossible) to revert to a version of OSX that is earlier than OS X Mavericks once Mavericks is installed.

     

    In short, we are screwed and neither company seems to care.

  • by RobertRTillman,

    RobertRTillman RobertRTillman Nov 4, 2013 7:09 PM in response to WiseJD
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    Nov 4, 2013 7:09 PM in response to WiseJD

    1. Apple has removed sync services in OS X Mavericks. Therefore, you cannot sync Outlook 2011 with Contacts or Calendar.

     

    2. Apple has removed the ability to sync through iTunes in OS X Mavericks, so that, even if you use Contacts and Calendar on the Mac, you can only sync them with your iPhone through iCloud, thus exposing all your contacts and calendar information to the mercies of the Web.

     

    3. Microsoft does not not support CalDAV and CardDAV in Outlook, so there is no way to sync directly through iCloud, except perhaps by setting up a Microsoft Exchange account.

     

    4. Apple makes it extremely difficult (virtually impossible) to revert to a version of OSX that is earlier than OS X Mavericks once Mavericks is installed.

  • by Retiredthailand,

    Retiredthailand Retiredthailand Nov 4, 2013 11:28 PM in response to Retiredthailand
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    Nov 4, 2013 11:28 PM in response to Retiredthailand

    I tried migration also, it woud not show my time machine at all.   I called apple and they went all the way up to a senior guy to help

     

    for some reason my TM did not save my applications, but saved everything else.  without the appllications saved you cannot see the TM on recover or migration.  You can see it on the desktop though.  I had to download lots of programs I had and set them up.  I coud slide my info in so it was saved on TM.   I have been working on this two days, a nightmare but I am getting close.   All this just to sync my contacts directly to my computer, maybe worth it since it works. 

     

    If you are gonna do a TM backup, make sure the applications shows up also

     

    thanks for the help I have gotten, appreciate it

  • by handsOFFmydata,

    handsOFFmydata handsOFFmydata Nov 5, 2013 12:04 AM in response to brollyjohn
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    Nov 5, 2013 12:04 AM in response to brollyjohn

    brollyjohn wrote:

     

    It's called DiskAid from DigiDNA. It does all sorts of syncing but not calender for some reason. Turns your iphone into a storage device as welll. Available on Macupdate.com. It's more expensive than OSX server though.

     

    Here's the link to diskaid

    http://www.digidna.net/diskaid

     

    Has anyone used this yet? Don't want my hopes to be dashed again.

     

     

    I just updated my DiskAid and it still does not support calendar. Besides, it is not a sync application, more like a document viewer that can move documents, archives, and apps between Mac and i-devices.

     

    You can downloaded a free version just to explore.

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