Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.
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Nov 8, 2013 10:35 AMby snozdop,Apple, like most other US companies, probably gets paid for providing their "consumers" (terminology chosen by Apple when they speak of their customers) data to US authorities.
"Probably" - so, no evidence then, just your crackpot beliefs?
Even if that wasn't the case, they will be forced by some "secret court" to disclose the required information.
A "secret court"? You've been watching too many science-fiction movies. Is this "secret court" in a huge cave underneath a desert island in the South Pacific? Is it governed by fat, one-eyed men, stroking white fluffy cats in their arms?
Either way, Apple DO share your information with the US government.
They have clearly stated they only do that to the absolute minimum level when required to by law, and I fail to see why they would do it otherwise, but if you can provide just one shred of evidence to show you're correct, I'll believe you.
Being required to by law would apply to any company operating in any country, if they are operating within the laws of that country. Are you proposing the businesses you buy products and services from should operate in an illegal manner? Would that suit you better? Would you trust them with your data then? Companies are bound by the laws of each country they operate in, not just of the country their HQ is registered in. Try educating yourself.
You're just making a bigger and bigger fool of yourself with your increasingly ridiculous "probably" claims. Get some actual evidence then show us how wrong we are.
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Nov 8, 2013 10:54 AMby satcomer,snozdop wrote:
Apple, like most other US companies, probably gets paid for providing their "consumers" (terminology chosen by Apple when they speak of their customers) data to US authorities.
"Probably" - so, no evidence then, just your crackpot beliefs?
Even if that wasn't the case, they will be forced by some "secret court" to disclose the required information.
A "secret court"? You've been watching too many science-fiction movies. Is this "secret court" in a huge cave underneath a desert island in the South Pacific? Is it governed by fat, one-eyed men, stroking white fluffy cats in their arms?
Either way, Apple DO share your information with the US government.
They have clearly stated they only do that to the absolute minimum level when required to by law, and I fail to see why they would do it otherwise, but if you can provide just one shred of evidence to show you're correct, I'll believe you.
Being required to by law would apply to any company operating in any country, if they are operating within the laws of that country. Are you proposing the businesses you buy products and services from should operate in an illegal manner? Would that suit you better? Would you trust them with your data then? Companies are bound by the laws of each country they operate in, not just of the country their HQ is registered in. Try educating yourself.
You're just making a bigger and bigger fool of yourself with your increasingly ridiculous "probably" claims. Get some actual evidence then show us how wrong we are.
Maybe you two should just read Apple’s Commitment to Customer Privacy and the blog post Apple takes strong privacy stance in new report, publishes rare “warrant canary”. This was widly published across the Internet tech news the last few weeks.
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Nov 8, 2013 10:55 AMby snozdop,Maybe you two should just read Apple’s Commitment to Customer Privacy and the blog post Apple takes strong privacy stance in new report, publishes rare “warrant canary”. This has widly published across the Internet tech news the last few weeks.
Er, yeah - maybe you should've read some previous posts first, you're a bit late to the party. I've already read it and I posted a link to Apple's most recent press release about the data it did pass on through legal requests. None of what I've written contradicts that.
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Nov 8, 2013 11:05 AMby Arnorf,petermac87 wrote:
Arnorf wrote:
Isn't that just 'handsOFFmydata's point. We need some clever developers to use their considerable talents to introduce an application to Mavericks that restores the choice to sync our Apple products either locally or via iCloud. We also need Apple to allow them the tools to do this with.
BTW I think SyncMate are no longer attempting to provide this option, for whatever reason.
So you would like to run Apple's employment policy? Do you really think they would associate themselves with third part developers such as these? You can inform them of your idea directly if you wish. Good luck with all that!
Pete
Hold-on old son who mentioned anything about employment policy. Apple has clearly removed the entire local sync structure from the OS and I doubt they are likely to restore it anytime soon, this being part of their 10 year plan. I was simply adding my support for developers to come up with a solution that satisfies the requirements of those that can't use or don't want to use iCloud. Apple has always encouraged developers in the past to utilise the OS framework in new and innovative ways. My hope is that they will continue to provide this encouragement and the tools to do it with. This would include amongst other things making the finished product available throught the App Store.
Some will argue that we shouldn't have to buy an App to do what we were accustomed to doing before the "free upgrade". But stuff happens in life and we all have to find a way to deal with it, and sometimes requires a little help.
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Nov 8, 2013 12:11 PMby 伊藤R,snozdop wrote:
"Probably" - so, no evidence then, just your crackpot beliefs?
There's no evidence of it yet - but I am sure there will be in the future. If a company like AT&T gets paid 10m a year for their customer's data, there is a good case to believe that Apple (amongst other US companies) will be paid for their "service" as well.
snozdop wrote:
A "secret court"? You've been watching too many science-fiction movies. Is this "secret court" in a huge cave underneath a desert island in the South Pacific? Is it governed by fat, one-eyed men, stroking white fluffy cats in their arms?
A secret court! It's called The United States Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) which uses the premises of the E. Barrett Prettyman United States Courthouse in Washington, D.C.
All judgements are made in camera and it enacts its own laws which is not normally the case in a constitutional state. Therefore it is referred to as a "secret court" in many areas.
Such courts, as well as gagging orders, do not exist in Europe (with the exeption of the UK which is pretty much the same as the US)
snozdop wrote:
Either way, Apple DO share your information with the US government.
They have clearly stated they only do that to the absolute minimum level when required to by law, and I fail to see why they would do it otherwise, but if you can provide just one shred of evidence to show you're correct, I'll believe you.
Let's have a look into the iCloud TOS:
"...Apple reserves the right to take steps Apple believes are reasonably necessary or appropriate to enforce and/or verify compliance with any part of this Agreement. You acknowledge and agree that Apple may, without liability to you, access, use, preserve and/or disclose your Account information and Content to law enforcement authorities, government officials, and/or a third party, as Apple believes is reasonably necessary or appropriate,..."
As you can see, the above text is extremely vague and would, at least theoretically, allow Apple to give out your information where it sees fit. In most jurisdictions, however, only a judge (one of an ordinary court, of course) can order for information to be released. Definitely not a company.
snozdop wrote:
Being required to by law would apply to any company operating in any country, if they are operating within the laws of that country. Are you proposing the businesses you buy products and services from should operate in an illegal manner? Would that suit you better? Would you trust them with your data then? Companies are bound by the laws of each country they operate in, not just of the country their HQ is registered in. Try educating yourself.
Basically that's true. That's why Apple should offer diffenrent services for different countries. That way, Apple can continue to provide their US customers data to authorities while sticking to the stringent data protection laws of most EU countries. No one demands Apple to operate illegally; and in order to stay legal, Apple is only allowed to provide data if they are required to do so by court. You know, not the secret ones...
Besides, Apple could ensure that only encrypted data is stored on their servers (to which the company obviously doesn't hold a key). That way wouldn't even have a chance to provide authorities with (usable) data.
snozdop wrote:
You're just making a bigger and bigger fool of yourself with your increasingly ridiculous "probably" claims. Get some actual evidence then show us how wrong we are.
Do you mean I stand a chance to become an even bigger fool than you are?
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Nov 8, 2013 12:12 PMby ChrisW£,Hi Matt and everyone else,
I've tested the script below by removing a cancelled appointment in my iPhone Calendar and running the script. At the end the appointment had been removed from my Macbook Calendar so it seems to work OK but I'm not a programmer so use it at your own discretion and also it's not very pretty.
Copy and paste the script into Text Editor. Replace 'username' with your own login name and save the file as plain text. I called it SyncCal.txt.
In a terminal window change to the directory where you saved it and type chmod u+rwx SyncCal.txt. This makes it executable.
To run it, still in the terminal window, type ./SyncCal.txt and follow the prompts.
I had the Macbook Calendar open and watched for the cancelled appointment disappearing before answering the prompt 'Wait for sync to complete then press Y' just to be sure it had completed.
Remember it still puts a copy in the cloud but hopefully that copy is removed by Apple when you turn off iCloud sync. (Even though Apple seem to do this who knows what Microsoft and Amazon do with the data if it's true that Apple store it on their servers?)
I think in the end I may go for the OSX Server solution so that I can also sync my contacts, I can't put them in the cloud.
Good luck, hope you find it useful.
Chris.
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#Sync Procedure
echo ENSURE YOU HAVE AN UP_TO_DATE BACKUP!
echo
echo /Users/username/Library/Calendars.bak, if it exists, will be overwritten by this procedure, rename it if you want to keep it!
echo
echo /Users/username/Library/Calendars will be copied to /Users/username/Library/Calendars.bak.
echo
echo /Users/username/Library/Calendars will then be overwritten by your new synchronised Calendar.
#Change to correct directory
cd /Users/username/library
if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then
pwd
else
echo Cannot change directory!
exit 1
fi
#Copy “Calendars” directory to ../Calendars.bak
cp -Rf ./Calendars ./Calendars.bak
if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then
echo Calendar backup completed.
else
echo Cannot Backup Calendar!
exit 1
fi
#Prompt to turn on sync on iPhone and await confirmation
echo -n Turn on Calendar sync on your iPhone and press Y when done or any other key to quit
read input
case $input in
#Check for Y
Y ) echo You confirmed your iPhone is ready to sync;;
# Check for anything else
* ) echo You did not type a Y.
echo Ensure you have turned OFF Calendar sync on your iPhone, select RETAIN DATA LOCALLY.
echo Quitting.
exit 1;;
esac
#Prompt to turn on sync on Mac and await confirmation
echo -n Turn on Calendar sync on your Mac and press Y when done or any other key to quit
read input
case $input in
# Check for Y
Y ) echo You confirmed your Mac is ready to sync;;
# Check for anything else
* ) echo You did not type a Y.
echo Ensure you have turned OFF Calendar sync on your Mac.
echo Quitting.
exit 1;;
esac
#Leave time for sync to occur
echo -n Wait for sync to complete then press Y
read input
#Change to correct directory
cd /Users/username/library
if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then
pwd
else
echo Cannot change directory!
exit 1
fi
#Copy “Calendars” directory to ../Calendars.bak
cp -Rf ./Calendars ./Calendars.bak
if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then
echo Calendar backup completed.
else
echo Cannot backup Calendar, quitting!
exit 1
fi
#Prompt to turn off sync on Mac and await Confirmation
echo -n Turn OFF Calendar sync on your Mac and press Y when done.
read input
case $input in
# Check for Y
Y ) echo You confirmed your Mac sync is turned OFF;;
# Check for anything else
* ) echo You did not type a Y, quitting.
exit 1;;
esac
#Prompt to turn off sync on iPhone (retaining data locally) and await Confirmation
echo -n Turn OFF Calendar sync on your iPhone, selecting KEEP ON MY iPHONE and press Y when done.
read input
case $input in
# Check for Y
Y ) echo You confirmed your iPhone sync is turned OFF;;
# Check for anything else
* ) echo You did not type a Y, quitting.
exit 1;;
esac
#Copy “Calendars.bak” directory to ../Calendars
cp -Rf ./Calendars.bak ./Calendars
if [ "$?" = "0" ]; then
echo Local copy of Calendar completed.
else
echo Cannot make local copy of Calendar, quitting!
exit 1
fi
#Notify Completed and await acknowledgement
echo Procedure Complete.
echo Your iPhone and Mac Calendars should be in sync and a copy held in /Users/username/Library/Calendars.bak.
echo The iCloud copy should have been removed.
echo Press any key to Quit.
read input
#Close App
exit 0
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Nov 8, 2013 12:48 PMby RobertRTillman,Success using Microsoft Exchange online to sync Outlook 2011 contacts and calendar with iPhone.
I realize that this solution does not solve the problem of exposing one's data to the cloud but is is the ONLY way I have found to easily sync Outlook with my iPhone. Syncing through iCloud is not an option for me as I have no easy way to get my data from Outlook to Apple Contacts and Calendar given the absence of sync services in OSX Mavericks.
After spending about an hour on the telephone with Microsoft tech support yesterday, I succeeded in syncing Outlook 2011 contacts and calendar with my iPhone.
1. I signed up for a Microsoft Exchange (OnMicrosoft) account for $4/month.
2. I enabled that Onmicrosoft exchange account in Microsoft Outlook 2011 and on my iPhone.
3. After I set up the Onmicrosoft exchange account, the following folders appeared at the left bottom of my screen : Inbox, Drafts, Sent Items, Deleted Items and Junk Email under an OnMicrosoft heading.
4. I tested the syncing of email by sending a test email from Office 365 online to my regular email address. It showed up in my email AND in the sent folder under the OnMicrosoft heading in Outlook 2011 on my Mac.
5. Under Calender, Contacts, Tasks and Notes in Outlook 2011, there appeared the OnMicrosoft heading in addition to the On My Computer heading. The Calender, Contacts, Tasks and Notes folders under the On My Computer Heading were duplicated under the OnMicrosoft heading. These headings also showed up on my iPhone. Nevertheless, these new folders were blank, i.e. they contained no information.
6. Finally, and this is the key step, I copied the information from my On My Computer address book and Calendar to the OnMicrosoft folders on Outlook 2011. Then I unchecked the On My Computer folders, preventing myself from seeing duplicate contacts and calendar events in Outlook 2011. I did not erase the information in the On My Computer folders, as I wanted to retain duplicate information in case there was a problem with Microsoft Exchange. One small point is that Contact Groups cannot be copied to the OnMicrosoft folders.
7. Shortly thereafter my contacts and calendars on Outlook 2011 started showing up on my iPhone. As I did with Outlook 2011, I checked only the OnMicrosoft exchange folders on my iPhone so that I would not see duplicate contacts and events. By the way, I have almost 10,000 contacts, so the initial sync took an hour or so. I did not eliminate the existing events and contact on my iPhone in the case that some problem developed with the Microsoft Exchange syncing.
8. I hope that this explanation helps those who care about getting sync between Outlook 2011 and the iPhone to work.
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Nov 8, 2013 12:51 PMby Drew Reece,That is a shell script so you want to add the 'shebang' on the first line - it tells the Terminal what interpreter to use making it 'portable' to other OS's (or other OS versions).
#!/usr/bin/env sh
should cover it for the 'bourne shell'.
Or
#!/usr/bin/env bash
if you have used bash syntax, the 'bourne-again shell'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)
http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/finding-bash-perl-python-portably-using-env.html
Errors will indicate you picked the wrong one, the default OS X shell is usually bash.
Also having executable .txt files is a little messy (that is what the 'chmod u+rwx File' does). Change it to a .sh or .bash to indicate it is a shell script. Or you can give it a .command suffix to allow a double click in Finder to run automatically in a new Terminal window.
Once it has a .sh or .command suffix you can assign that filetype to open in a 'real code editor' (get http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/ for free). The syntax coloring should help make things easier to see & edit or stick with TextEdit if it hurts your eyes . Line numbers will help debug errors.
Don't forget you are not backing up keychains, which is important if you use keychain syncing. They are inside ~/Library/Keychains.
You also should wrap all of the echo's in double quotes, otherwise the shell will not like the '!' The exclamation is a shortcut for a previous command in most shells, normally you pick the number of the command as shown in the 'history' list.
e.g. to run the 32 nd command
!32
e.g. change
echo Cannot change directory!
to
echo "Cannot change directory!"
Also your file paths should be quoted too
cd /Users/username/library
cd "/Users/username/library"
and the library needs an uppercase
cd "/Users/username/Library"
Also you can forgo the '/Users/username/' if you use ~/, however you cannot wrap paths in quotes if you use 'tilde expansion' ~ is tilde.
It would make the script work for people who have the home folder in other locations & you don't need to 'hard code' the username, tilde is the current users home, as is the variable "$HOME" (which can be wrapped in quotes).
I hope that isn't too overwhelming, do what works for you. Post back if you want something clarifying.
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Nov 8, 2013 1:24 PMby ChrisW£,Hi, thanks for the info.
You obviously know far more about this than I do. Perhaps you should make the changes and post it back, you would do it far more quickly than I could.
What I have works for me so I probably won't spend any more time on it, I've lost enough already due to the change Apple made. I just posted it in case it could help anyone else until a better solution can be found.
Also, I did originally have quotes round the strings in the echo commands (I copied most of the sections from axamples in manuals on the net) but traced errors to some of those lines; my old Shell Programming Language book shows echo commands without quotes so I removed all the quotes and cleared the errors. Confusing or what?
Chris.
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Nov 8, 2013 2:02 PMby MikieMike.,OK, folks. I've been using Mac OS X for a looong time and realy enjoyed this OS.
For the last few years, though, I have been afraid, sooner or later, it would happen...
Today I was going to install Maverics but had not known about the iCloud dictate.
I had read about that half an hour ago and have tried to confirm it since then.
It seems Apple did this final step.
I quit.
For now I am going to install Ubuntu on my Mac Book Pro and see how it's gonna perform.
My next laptop will not have any apple on it, though.
Also my iPhone4 is going to be available on eBay soon.
Happy iClouding!
Mike
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Nov 8, 2013 2:24 PMby petermac87,MikieMike. wrote:
My next laptop will not have any apple on it, though.
Also my iPhone4 is going to be available on eBay soon.
Happy iClouding!
Mike
Goodbye. Gradually Apple is being used more and more by the sensible ones and less by impatient loooong time users (whatever that word means).
I am surviving fine with five Macs all using Mavericks, two iPhones and an iPad and have never used the cloud.Everything is in sync.
Bye
Pete
