Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

MikieMike,

have you signed THE petition yet? Besides of wating for a third-party company to bring us back local syncing, this petition might be the only chance to convince Apple that they're on the wrong path.

Keksi

The only what helps, if this gets in daily newspapers.

Hahahahahahaha. Oh dear. Sorry! A petition????? You are not serious are you? You will probably need at least 5% of users. So that's .....ummm.... Who knows, but roughly 150,000? Hang on. No. Probably more at the rate it's being downloaded. So goouck with that.

A petition! Hahahahahahah

Cheers

Pete

Hi, this is to everyone really:-

I did a sync via the cloud yesterday and then turned off icloud on my iphone and macbook using the script I posted earlier. iCloud removed the data from my macbook (my script put it back) and  I had the option to remove or retain the data on my iPhone (I chose to retain it).

I found today, by logging in to iCloud.com, that the data WAS NOT deleted from the cloud.

There is an option there to reset documents etc. but this only gets all your devices back in sync. I could see no option to delete the cloud data.

Chris.

To everyone:-

Although I had iCloud sync turned off on my iPhone, deleting events in the iCLoud calendar via www.icloud.com deleted them on my iPhone.

How can that be right? Who is controlling this data?

Chris.

I do not want to rely on internet based technology only.

I am frequently on business travels, where I don't have internet access over a longer time (e. g. 3 to 5 days). Therefore I need a possibility of synchronizing my contacts and calendar off-line by an USB cable.

So I hope Apple or any developer will provide a solution for offline-sync. Until then I will not change over to Mavericks, though some of the new features are interesting. But why should I use features I didn't miss until now, but lose a function which is really important for me?

If Apple has announced that the sync services will be omitted one or two years ago, why did no developer prepare a solution before the release of Mavericks? He would make a good bargain at this moment.

So if any one finds a solution for syncing data (not only calendar and contacts) offline via USB cable I would appreciate any hint.

I want to thank you too RobertRTillman. Your well thought and reasoned comment is welcome amongst the donkey laughs and snipes of others on this forum. I don't have any paranoia about data security I just want the comfort of knowing I am in control and responsible for my own data on my own devices. Thanks again.

Out of all the 51 pages on this topic, you are the only one who has it the nail on the head!. let's forget about the security and iCloud for the moment and concentrate on the businessman who travels around the world in areas where internet is not readily available, one needs to be able to sync your data, calendars and contacts during this time in an environment where there is no internet. What do we do now? we would also like to keep up to date with the latest available technology when we are in a first world country where there is internet connectivity on a 24/7 basis, do we now need to keep two computers and two telephones for different areas??

Apple, please do not take operating functions away from people before having an alternative solution available.

My concern is not about secuirty, but functionality.  I have a device (my car) that talks to my iPhone via bluetooth. The car likes to load up my contacts from my phone via bluetooth.  I learned long ago that my car can't handle all of my contacts.  So, I put a group together just for the iPhone which is a subset of my contacts.  I used iTunes to sync just the group to the iPhone and not the entire contacts database.

I'm not worried about secuirty, I just want the control back.  I want to be able to select which contacts get synced to my iPhone.  If there is a way to do that with iCloud, then fine.  Just tell me how.  But I don't think there is.  Apple has managed to remove functionality with no replacement.  Unclear thinking, at best.

Dont't worry about this gang, they are not here for support.  They just try to post as much as they can to get points and upgrade level.  It's just a game.  Best option:  ignore them, let's them play their game.  As long as Apple allows them. Meanwhile, let's try to find a solution to the real problem:  how to sync out of the cloud.

We've been posting it here since the very beginning.

Run your own CalDAV and CardDAV servers.

They just try to post as much as they can to get points and upgrade level.

https://discussions.apple.com/static/apple/tutorial/reputation.html

Thanks for playing, though.

If iCloud was turned off it did not delete your data.

Matthias Allgayer wrote:

 

If Apple has announced that the sync services will be omitted one or two years ago, why did no developer prepare a solution before the release of Mavericks? He would make a good bargain at this moment.

Probably because the number of people who either actually believe they actually need this functionality is so small that it wasn't worth the effort on the part of the developers.

I've just spent the last hour or so reading through all this thread and I've now got a very clear view of what the problem is, and what the current solutions are.

To me, it seems as though certain members of the forum simply don't want to accept the facts that have been repeatedly posted by others, and just accuse them of being vitriolic, despite the postings being accurate assessments of the current situation.

There seems to be 3 types of people here:

1: Those who have a legitimate need to sync locally when travelling or in places with no Internet connection.

2: Those who are paranoid about storing data on a remote server, despite Apple's clear reassurances about security/access and despite their contacts and calendars being the least sensitive info stored on remote servers in this highly connected world we all now live in.

3: Those who actually understand the situation and try, in vain, to explain it to the most stubborn people I've ever seen on a forum and what they can try to do to change things.

So, my summary of the situation in plain and simple facts:

FACT: Local WiFi/USB sync of contacts and calendars via iTunes has been removed in OS X Mavericks.

FACT: Syncing of contacts and calendars via iCloud, Google Sync, MS Exchange, Fruux etc. is still possible.

FACT: Syncing of media via iTunes is not affected.

FACT: There is no currently available solution to reinstate local USB sync of contacts and calendars in iTunes in Mavericks.

FACT: Continually posting here will not have any affect.

And potential workarounds or temporary solutions in some cases:

A: Downgrade back to Mountain Lion or earlier

B: Sync contacts/calendars using any one of the alternative server-based sync solutions.

C: Install a local CalDAV and  CardDAV server and sync over a local network.

Potential ways of getting a local sync solution back:

A: Send feedback to Apple at http://www.apple.com/feedback telling them of the desire for local sync

B: Contact third-party developers in the syncing field and encourage them to fill this new gap in the market

Going round and round in circles on this forum, is not going to solve anything, or help anyone.

I hope that helps to accurately summarize the current situation, and it can avoid newcomers to this thread going over old ground, and hopefully influence the stubborn few who refuse to accept the facts to stop repeating themselves.

Believe me, iCloud sync was turned off off on my iPhone and I was watching the events diappearing from my iPhone a few seconds after I deleted them from iCloud.

Think I'll go down the OSX Server route.