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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

I read that OS X Mavericks will no longer allow me to use iTunes to sync my iPhone to a local system but makes iCloud mandatory? Is that correct?

 

iCloud is not a valid option for me since I have no control about my data there, I need to keep all my data (contacts, calendar...) on a system under my control and so far iTunes allowed me to do that which was one of the reasons I didn't even consider Android or Windows Phone.

OS X Mountain Lion (10.8.5)

Posted on Oct 20, 2013 8:54 AM

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Q: How to locally sync an iPhone with OS X Mavericks? iCloud is NOT an option.

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  • by turtle67,

    turtle67 turtle67 Nov 9, 2013 6:01 AM in response to Mrs. Miggins
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    Nov 9, 2013 6:01 AM in response to Mrs. Miggins

    I'm sorry, but you missed an important case:

     

    FACT: it is no longer possible to sync only a portion of the contacts (one or more groups).

     

    I don't care how the sync is done (local/USB, WiFi, iCloud, other server, banana peels); no matter what you use, Apple has removed the functionality that allowed sync of a subset of contact data via a group (and groups are just a subsetting tool).

  • by Mrs. Miggins,

    Mrs. Miggins Mrs. Miggins Nov 9, 2013 6:23 AM in response to turtle67
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    Nov 9, 2013 6:23 AM in response to turtle67

    I'm sorry, but you missed an important case:

     

    FACT: it is no longer possible to sync only a portion of the contacts (one or more groups).

     

    No, I didn't miss it - that is included in and as a direct consequence of the first fact I posted.

  • by turtle67,

    turtle67 turtle67 Nov 9, 2013 6:27 AM in response to Mrs. Miggins
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    Nov 9, 2013 6:27 AM in response to Mrs. Miggins

    Sorry.  No.

     

    You missed my point.  It is not the method of sync that I care about.  I don't really mind that they removed the USB sync.  I don't care about that.

     

    it would be possible to do two things:

     

    1) allow me to keep some subset of contacts local (only on my mac), not sync'd to iCloud or anything else.

     

    2) allow me to select on my device (iphone, ipad, whatever) which groups from icloud I want to sync to my device.

     

    Either one of these would work for me.

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 9, 2013 6:34 AM in response to turtle67
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    Nov 9, 2013 6:34 AM in response to turtle67

    Then tell Apple. Whining about it here won't do you any good.

  • by Keksi,

    Keksi Keksi Nov 9, 2013 7:27 AM in response to petermac87
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    Nov 9, 2013 7:27 AM in response to petermac87

    petermac87 wrote:

     

    Hahahahahahaha. Oh dear. Sorry! A petition????? You are not serious are you? You will probably need at least 5% of users. So that's .....ummm.... Who knows, but roughly 150,000? Hang on. No. Probably more at the rate it's being downloaded. So goouck with that.

     

    A petition! Hahahahahahah

     

    Cheers

     

    Pete

     

    Ah, Pete, who else.

     

    Will ya stop spitting your acid around here. Thanx in advance.

     

    Isn't here an admin around to stop this troll?

     

    "Cheers"

     

    Keksi

    <Edited by Host>

  • by turtle67,

    turtle67 turtle67 Nov 9, 2013 6:42 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 9, 2013 6:42 AM in response to KiltedTim

    Thanks for the really useful tip. 

     

    I found "on my mac" as an "account" in Contacts, but I see no way to put contacts into that 'account'.  If I could, I'd move a lot of contacts to be local only, and sync to iCloud the ones I want to have on my other devices.

  • by Mrs. Miggins,

    Mrs. Miggins Mrs. Miggins Nov 9, 2013 6:55 AM in response to turtle67
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    Nov 9, 2013 6:55 AM in response to turtle67

    You missed my point.  It is not the method of sync that I care about.  I don't really mind that they removed the USB sync.  I don't care about that.

     

    Maybe, but the ability to choose which groups to sync was only ever a feature of local USB syncing. It was never a feature of any other method of syncing.

     

    What you're actually wanting is for Apple to add selective syncing to all the other methods of syncing - which is a different request altogether.

  • by Mrs. Miggins,

    Mrs. Miggins Mrs. Miggins Nov 9, 2013 7:04 AM in response to turtle67
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    Nov 9, 2013 7:04 AM in response to turtle67

    I found "on my mac" as an "account" in Contacts, but I see no way to put contacts into that 'account'.

     

    You used to be able to drag contacts to the desktop as vCards, then re-import them, and when doing so you would be asked which account you wanted them imported into. That option now seems to be gone in Mavericks and I cannot find a way to move contacts into the 'On My Mac' group any more. Perhaps that is something else that has gone with the removal of SyncServices.

  • by Csound1,

    Csound1 Csound1 Nov 9, 2013 7:17 AM in response to turtle67
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    Nov 9, 2013 7:17 AM in response to turtle67

    Drag the contacts from the iCloud account to the On My Mac account. Or export them to the desktop and then import to the On My Mac account.

  • by turtle67,

    turtle67 turtle67 Nov 9, 2013 7:20 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 9, 2013 7:20 AM in response to Csound1

    Problem is that while the "on my mac" account appears in the Preferences -> Accounts, it does not appear in the sdiebar.  On iCloud (my other account) is there.  So, no way to drag...

     

    I think they pulled this "feature" in 10.9 too.

  • by Mrs. Miggins,

    Mrs. Miggins Mrs. Miggins Nov 9, 2013 7:21 AM in response to Csound1
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    Nov 9, 2013 7:21 AM in response to Csound1

    Drag the contacts from the iCloud account to the On My Mac account. Or export them to the desktop and then import to the On My Mac account.

     

    Csound1, have you actually tried that in Mavericks? As I mentioned above, it used to work that way in Mountain Lion and earlier, but doesn't seem to any longer in Mavericks for me.

  • by Barney-15E,

    Barney-15E Barney-15E Nov 9, 2013 7:46 AM in response to Mrs. Miggins
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    Nov 9, 2013 7:46 AM in response to Mrs. Miggins

    Here is a way to get the On My Mac account showing again.

    First, back up your Contacts.

    Quit Contacts

    Go into your user/Library/Application Support/AddressBook folder.

    ~/Library/Application Support/AddressBook
    

    Triple-click the above line and copy.

    In the Finder, Type cmd-shift-G.

    Paste the path into the field and click Go.

     

    It should look something like this (the files won't be highlighted):

    Screen Shot 2013-11-09 at 9.32.53 AM.png

    If you open each of the Sources subfolders, they look similar to the root of AddressBook. One of those will be your iCloud folder. If you Quicklook the configuration.plist, you can see the "home" of the source which will tell you which is your iCloud account.

    Go into the Metadata folder of that account and Option-drag one of the contacts cards into the Metadata folder that is at the root of the AddressBook folder. Use one named with ABPerson.abcdb.

    Then, delete all of the highlighted files.

    Screen Shot 2013-11-09 at 9.40.35 AM.png

    Open Contacts and you should have an On My Mac header with one group (All On My Mac) with the one card in it.

    You can then move cards from your iCloud to the On My Mac account. It makes a copy, so you'll have to then delete from your iCloud account.

    I haven't played around with it enough to know if it will have any ill effects.

  • by handsOFFmydata,

    handsOFFmydata handsOFFmydata Nov 9, 2013 8:47 AM in response to Bigtzn
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    Nov 9, 2013 8:47 AM in response to Bigtzn

    Bigtzn wrote:

     

    Out of all the 51 pages on this topic, you are the only one who has it the nail on the head!. let's forget about the security and iCloud for the moment and concentrate on the businessman who travels around the world in areas where internet is not readily available ...

     

    You have NOT read past 50 pages carefully …

     

    Myself, and many others who voice their concerns here, are in the same boat. Forget legalities, the cloud, any cloud, does not physically work for many people in many circumstances … period. So we are just trying to get around the roadblock with minimal detour ...

  • by KiltedTim,

    KiltedTim KiltedTim Nov 9, 2013 8:38 AM in response to handsOFFmydata
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    Nov 9, 2013 8:38 AM in response to handsOFFmydata

    handsOFFmydata wrote:

     

    Myself, and many others who voice their concerns here, are in the same boat. Forget legalities, the cloud, any cloud, does not physically work for many people in many circumstances … period.

    None of which changes the fact that this is NOT a forum for whining about your paranoia or other reasons for refusing to use a cloud service.

  • by handsOFFmydata,

    handsOFFmydata handsOFFmydata Nov 9, 2013 8:49 AM in response to KiltedTim
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    Nov 9, 2013 8:49 AM in response to KiltedTim

    So we are just trying to get around the roadblock with minimal detour ... got it?

     

    The icloud works for you, makes you happy ... fine ... stop reading this discussion and stop being another roadblock here.

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